*****Official Jan 6th Committee Hearing Thread*****

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BadMoonRisin said:

You know if you guys would just stop replying this thread would disappear.
I hope it never disappears. People need to be reminded what happens in totalitarian rule.

One party picks ALL people on a committee and the other party is not allowed to nominate/put who they want on the committee. The defense is not allowed to present a counter to the charges. "Facts" and "Truths" aren't that.

I hope this thread never dies and those asshats telling us things get to be reminded of their dumb-assery for all time. Including those that agree with these slugs on Capitol Hill.
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Carolin_Gallego said:




My God! He tried to call an associate! Get out the pitchforks boys
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You can add chronologically order edited video to the list. Showing in some cases escalations after Babbit shot as before. That makes a difference. That changed moods when she was wheeled out on stretcher at 3pm from the southern wall of the House.
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BadMoonRisin said:

You know if you guys would just stop replying this thread would disappear.
I hope it never disappears. People need to be reminded what happens in totalitarian rule.

One party picks ALL people on a committee and the other party is not allowed to nominate/put who they want on the committee. The defense is not allowed to present a counter to the charges. "Facts" and "Truths" aren't that.

I hope this thread never dies and those asshats telling us things get to be reminded of their dumb-assery for all time. Including those that agree with these slugs on Capitol Hill.

It could have been more bipartisan, but McCarthy was following Trump's wishes and decided not to cooperate in good faith, like by nominating a committee member that was unable to say Biden's win was "legitimate".
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OMG, Trump tried to make a phone call! Well it looks like you got him now! Can you impeach him again?
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Carolin_Gallego said:

Line Ate Member said:

BadMoonRisin said:

You know if you guys would just stop replying this thread would disappear.
I hope it never disappears. People need to be reminded what happens in totalitarian rule.

One party picks ALL people on a committee and the other party is not allowed to nominate/put who they want on the committee. The defense is not allowed to present a counter to the charges. "Facts" and "Truths" aren't that.

I hope this thread never dies and those asshats telling us things get to be reminded of their dumb-assery for all time. Including those that agree with these slugs on Capitol Hill.

It could have been more bipartisan, but McCarthy was following Trump's wishes and decided not to cooperate in good faith, like by nominating a committee member that was unable to say Biden's win was "legitimate".

Boy that's convenient for you isn't it? So you wanted McConnell to nominate a liar instead? I get that you disagree with that position, but many people do believe the election was fraudulent. The assertion that the election was legitimate is also an opinion and not a proven fact no matter how much you don't like it. The "Big Lie" is that people who hold a different opinion than liberals on the 2020 election are lying because the election has been proven legitimate. It hasn't and not by a long long long shot. A lot of shady **** happened in that election, that has not been properly investigated. No one knows what the true outcome would have been without interference from bad actors. That is reality outside of the delusional progressive information bubble.

At the end of the day Democrats rejected any Republican that wasn't a Trump hating Rhino that would go along with their narratives. This committee is an absolute one sided joke, just like everything Democrats and their brain dead voters do.
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Rockdoc said:

OMG, Trump tried to make a phone call! Well it looks like you got him now! Can you impeach him again?
The butt dial that changed the course of history! These people are so freaking stupid, it's comedy gold at this point!
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How is that video justifying Pelosi's making it into a DNC-Rino hearing?

So Banks voted to object to the results with the Texas lawsuit. He says he stood by his vote on Jan 6, and his support of the Texas lawsuit and still does. Fine. So he has convictions. He may be wrong, but he is just taking a stance. Wallace was trying to badge him into repeating some conventional line.

Forcing someone to say what you want them to say is Marxist. Incarnate.

And you certainly can't make him say he thought he won fair and square, because maybe he doesn't think that, and not least because history's non current administration verdict on that has yet to be written. He has a right to be skeptical.

And then there is the total lack of objectivity by the interviewer: Wallace is who spoke about white supremacy in the Portland riots while excusing entirely Antifa that summer and joining Biden in calling it an `idea' on Sept 29, 2020 when sandbagging the first debate.
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Do you even know why you hate Trump so bad that you're rooting for his demise a year and a half into the worst Democratic administration possibly ever? Specific policies or is it that CNN told you to? The current president has been absolutely devastating to our economic, social, and geopolitical security, is that not a tad more concerning to you than Trump being combative on twitter with scum bag DNC propagandists?
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Rockdoc said:

OMG, Trump tried to make a phone call! Well it looks like you got him now! Can you impeach him again?
Wrong number? Butt dial??
If you think I am a liberal, you are incorrect. Assume sarcasm on my part. Sorry if something I post has already been posted.
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Sounds like Brad, got brainwashed by the left and their one sided sham committee. Do you libs really believe that the only reason people think the election was stolen, is because Trump told them it was? I mean 30 seconds of googling will tell you there were many reasons that people doubt the election and Trump's "rhetoric" has to be at the bottom of the list of reasons that they believe the scum bag Democrats, DNC propagandists, Big Tech, and anti Trump Rhinos cut serious ethical and legal corners in an effort to oust him. Hell Time wrote an article about it praising their efforts.
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That exchange is bizarre for two reasons.

1) Brad saying called for Civil War is not accurate--- that would have been remembered by everyone and even might have caused it to grow at the time,

HOWEVER,

2) On the other hand, Katrina's answer was jolting --- she was expecting deadly violence.

Would say that exchange is much more important and serious than all the attempts to edit the crowd footage.
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aggieforester05 said:

Sounds like Brad, got brainwashed by the left and their one sided sham committee. Do you libs really believe that the only reason people think the election was stolen, is because Trump told them it was? I mean 30 seconds of googling will tell you there were many reasons that people doubt the election and Trump's "rhetoric" has to be at the bottom of the list of reasons that they believe the scum bag Democrats, DNC propagandists, Big Tech, and anti Trump Rhinos cut serious ethical and legal corners in an effort to oust him. Hell Time wrote an article about it praising their efforts.


You people are just a cult at this point. No amount of googling will reveal any credible evidence of widespread election fraud against Trump. It's embarrassing
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mesocosm said:

aggieforester05 said:

Sounds like Brad, got brainwashed by the left and their one sided sham committee. Do you libs really believe that the only reason people think the election was stolen, is because Trump told them it was? I mean 30 seconds of googling will tell you there were many reasons that people doubt the election and Trump's "rhetoric" has to be at the bottom of the list of reasons that they believe the scum bag Democrats, DNC propagandists, Big Tech, and anti Trump Rhinos cut serious ethical and legal corners in an effort to oust him. Hell Time wrote an article about it praising their efforts.


You people are just a cult at this point. No amount of googling will reveal any credible evidence of widespread election fraud against Trump. It's embarrassing

Brilliant!
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I could stand in the middle of Fifth Avenue and shoot somebody, and I wouldn't lose any voters, OK?


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BallerStaf2003 said:


Parscale had a nervous breakdown in September 2020 and was suicidal. He left the campaign after being detained by police and then sent to the hospital.

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Brad Parscale stepped down from his role as a senior adviser to President Donald Trump's campaign on Wednesday, two sources close to the campaign confirmed to CNN.

Three days earlier he was detained by police and hospitalized over suicidal threats he made at his home while holding a gun.

"I am stepping away from my company and any role in the campaign for the immediate future to focus on my family and get help dealing with the overwhelming stress," Parscale said in a statement obtained by Politico.

His wife, Candice Parscale, also released a statement on Wednesday denying that her husband was physically abusive toward her after telling police days earlier that Parscale was responsible for several bruises on her body, according to a police report.

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Not sure how much of a role Katrina Pierson played in the 2020 campaign, if any.

Text conversations of people not even present nor on the inside of the Trump campaign, nor WH, one of who was three months out of a suicide watch hold and DV allegations don't mean much in terms of evidence.
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Don't you see the trap you are getting into, objectively?


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You people are just a cult at this point. No amount of googling [using a confirmed and demonstrated partisan group] will reveal any credible evidence of widespread election fraud [by their chosen candidate who they delete anything negative] against Trump. It's embarrassing
At least consider that anyone trying to get to the bottom of this can hardly resort to the MSM or Big Tech who showed their hand in 2020.

Its a dilemma for any really trying to figure out what happened.

It may be like what Jerry Spence once said about the O.J. trial: "They framed a guilty man"

Maybe those blue states "padded" an election their prior rigging (selective coverage, spiking anything negative regarding Biden) had won for them anyway.
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Why aren't all these liberals attacking Hunter and Joe on their obviously questionable ethics? Are they only motivated to engage when it's beneficial to their politics?
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Rockdoc said:

mesocosm said:

aggieforester05 said:

Sounds like Brad, got brainwashed by the left and their one sided sham committee. Do you libs really believe that the only reason people think the election was stolen, is because Trump told them it was? I mean 30 seconds of googling will tell you there were many reasons that people doubt the election and Trump's "rhetoric" has to be at the bottom of the list of reasons that they believe the scum bag Democrats, DNC propagandists, Big Tech, and anti Trump Rhinos cut serious ethical and legal corners in an effort to oust him. Hell Time wrote an article about it praising their efforts.


You people are just a cult at this point. No amount of googling will reveal any credible evidence of widespread election fraud against Trump. It's embarrassing

Brilliant!
Guess our 575 page thread on the Election Day doesn't register with a google search.
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Funny how you never see baller, TAF, etc. in any Biden threads. So curious.
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aggiehawg said:

Rockdoc said:

mesocosm said:

aggieforester05 said:

Sounds like Brad, got brainwashed by the left and their one sided sham committee. Do you libs really believe that the only reason people think the election was stolen, is because Trump told them it was? I mean 30 seconds of googling will tell you there were many reasons that people doubt the election and Trump's "rhetoric" has to be at the bottom of the list of reasons that they believe the scum bag Democrats, DNC propagandists, Big Tech, and anti Trump Rhinos cut serious ethical and legal corners in an effort to oust him. Hell Time wrote an article about it praising their efforts.


You people are just a cult at this point. No amount of googling will reveal any credible evidence of widespread election fraud against Trump. It's embarrassing

Brilliant!
Guess our 575 page thread on the Election Day doesn't register with a google search.

Ha probably not!
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Funky Winkerbean said:

Why aren't all these liberals attacking Hunter and Joe on their obviously questionable ethics? Are they only motivated to engage when it's beneficial to their politics?

Well just think about what they watch on TV. There's your answer.
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Gigem314 said:

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What is the goal ? Trump is no longer in office. You have impeached him twice. Twice it was not agreed to in the Senate. What are you going for now ? Some kind of third impeachment, lol.
After they faked the Russia and Ukraine narratives but pushed for charges, you're honestly surprised the dems have followed up with this fake narrative that Trump tried to cause an insurrection?

They are simply followed through on what they ran on in 2020.

Their goal is political revenge for him winning the Presidency in the first place. In their minds, he never should have become President. He was illegitimate from day 1 in their minds. Just like GWB in 2000 after Gore/Florida...but on steroids.
Its this. And efforts to try to smear any Republicans and their supporters in Trump's orbit. The goal is to "get Trump" like its always been. These people won't stop until they see Trump dragged off to prison in shackles.

mesocosm said Trump defenders are like a cult but its just the opposite. TDS is real and its on full display with this committee who really aren't interested at all in getting to the bottom of what happened Jan 6th. They don't give a **** about the police officers assaulted or anyone breaking windows or creating mayhem. They are all props in the Dems and a couple of RINOs efforts to tar and feather Trump at all costs. Its been going on since he had the audacity to run as a Republican and win. More attention and thought might be given by his supporters to his role in this Jan 6th thing if there weren't so many "cry wolf" episodes leading up to it.

In the end most of the country doesn't give a ***** They care about gas prices and inflation and we have a POTUS that supposedly 81M voted for but is now polling at some of the lowest levels of all time and is saying dumb stupid stuff by the hour and is wholly corrupt along with his family.
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And there you have it--- already some counter evidence this isn't as crucial as looks. You never fail to unearth that extra bit of light to shed on something. If Brad was that way already in Sept 2020 and they were not in driver's seat at the time it changes much.
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Your post just further proves my point. It is clear you have found your narrative and have bought in to the spin, hyperbole, etc. As such, it is pointless to debate, but since there are others reading this thread who are interested in looking at this critically.
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Armed means more than just firearms,
While this is a true statement, the dems and media know there are a large number of people who automatically default to armed = carrying a gun and they are fine with that as a gun elicits a greater emotional response than a rock or a stick.
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the committee has provided substantial evidence establishing the following:
President Trump engaged in a massive effort to knowingly spread false and fraudulent information to the American public claiming the 2020 election was stolen from him
There is an entire thread of information and evidence to the contrary, but again, no point in going there here because you are dug int and believe everything was on the up and up in 2020.
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President Trump planned to replace the Acting Attorney General, so that the Department of Justice would support his fake election claims.
First, he didn't think they were false claims and he couldn't get the courts or the DOJ to investigate. Why would he not look to replace Barr....to see what his options to force someone to investigate the claims instead of just running the clock out? There is no way that he would have been able to remove him and get someone confirmed, so this was Trump trying to find relief via whatever mechanism possible.
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President Trump pressured Vice President Pence to refuse to count certified electoral votes in violation of the US Constitution and the law.
This was John Eastman who came up with this and argued the VP authority in ECA and 12th amendment
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Eastman argued that when seven states changed election rules to meet the challenges of the covid-19 pandemic, that qualified as voter fraud. Because Michigan shipped absentee ballots out rather than required voters apply for them, for example, the legitimacy of the state's vote tally should come under question.

He then asserted that the 12th Amendment granted the "President of the Senate" (then Vice President Mike Pence) sole authority to certify electoral votes
If the VP is simply a rubber stamp whatever he/she is given, then why require the process? On this point, I do not agree with Eastman completely. At most, I think the power would only be able to kick it back to the individual State to have their court determine if it meets their requirements/laws.
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President Trump pressured state election officials, and state legislators, to change election results
Misrepresentation and disingenuous. He pressured them to investigate the fraud. When he said, "find the votes" and "all I need is X amount" it was not him saying submit X number of false votes and declare me winner. It was he only needed to prove there was at least X amount of fraud to prove his point.
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President Trump summoned and assembled a mob in Washington and directed them to march on the US Capitol to stop the peaceful transfer of power, knowing they were armed
Spin and hyperbole. The "mob" he summoned were US citizens to "protest" the results. SMH
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The idea that the evidence is limited to one unvetted, second hand, hearsay witness is as bizarre and far-fetched as the notion that, in this day and age, the evidence would be clearly presented on every webpage, TV channel and newspaper
it isn't bizarre and far-fetched, it is a strawman argument. The argument is....with all of this definitive proof of a coordinated coop/insurrection you speak of, the "bomb-shell" turned out to be a second-hand, hearsay witness whose testimony was fabricated and not true.

If there was all this evidence which was proof positive a coordinated insurrection had taken place, there would have been no need to call that witness. The reason she was called was SPECIFICALLY because the "evidence" they have falls miles short of the narrative they have spun....just like the Mueller investigation, the Ukraine call, the Dossier, etc etc etc. ...and what did the dems do in those cases? They doubled down, manufactured, and spun. Seriously. I listened to the Trump call and I read the transcript of the call. I then listened to Schiff's made-up version. It is what they do when the facts don't match the narrative.

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And there you have it--- already some counter evidence this isn't as crucial as looks. You never fail to unearth that extra bit of light to shed on something. If Brad was that way already in Sept 2020 and they were not in driver's seat at the time it changes much.
I have a great (but beginning to fail, alas) memory but I remember being surprised when Parscale went nutso.

And I hadn't really seen Katrina much during the 2020 campaign, if at all. She was all over the place in 2016. (And I didn't like her at all back then. She's a fraud.)

Well, you can take the Ol' Dame out of the trial court but you can't take the trial lawyer out of the Ol' Dame, apparently. That's the complete fraud that happens when there is no cross examination, nor defense counsel eyes even seeing this crap at the behind closed door deposition level to analyze at all. Taking snippets of a deposition is the worst cherry picking...if there is an adversary watching. Get destroyed on cross.

Which is pretty much how our legal system works. It is adversarial for a reason. Due process.
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I hope you remain on this site for a very long time. Your ability to bring facts is top notch.
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aggiehawg said:

titan said:


And there you have it--- already some counter evidence this isn't as crucial as looks. You never fail to unearth that extra bit of light to shed on something. If Brad was that way already in Sept 2020 and they were not in driver's seat at the time it changes much.
I have a great (but beginning to fail, alas) memory but I remember being surprised when Parscale went nutso.

And I hadn't really seen Katrina much during the 2020 campaign, if at all. She was all over the place in 2016. (And I didn't like her at all back then. She's a fraud.)

Well, you can take the Ol' Dame out of the trial court but you can't take the trial lawyer out of the Ol' Dame, apparently. That's the complete fraud that happens when there is no cross examination, nor defense counsel eyes even seeing this crap at the behind closed door deposition level to analyze at all. Taking snippets of a deposition is the worst cherry picking...if there is an adversary watching. Get destroyed on cross.

Which is pretty much how our legal system works. It is adversarial for a reason. Due process.

That's been a lot of what this Jan 6th sham is. People at one time or another associated with Trump texting others about Jan 6th. Just proves that this committee is doing nothing more than at minimum trying to embarrass Trump and also a group of haters looking for a crime where none exists.
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...beats the hell out of having to justify failed economic policy, disastrous domestic policy, and the most corrupt government this nation has seen since the Grant Administration.

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When you have pipe bombs and Antifa plants all over the place, pretty easy to expect violence.
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mesocosm said:

aggieforester05 said:

Sounds like Brad, got brainwashed by the left and their one sided sham committee. Do you libs really believe that the only reason people think the election was stolen, is because Trump told them it was? I mean 30 seconds of googling will tell you there were many reasons that people doubt the election and Trump's "rhetoric" has to be at the bottom of the list of reasons that they believe the scum bag Democrats, DNC propagandists, Big Tech, and anti Trump Rhinos cut serious ethical and legal corners in an effort to oust him. Hell Time wrote an article about it praising their efforts.


You people are just a cult at this point. No amount of googling will reveal any credible evidence of widespread election fraud against Trump. It's embarrassing
Who are you calling "you people"? That sounds racist AF!

You are clearly a moron and extremely uninformed. If you bothered to spend one second reading the official election thread, you'd realize that your comment is not only moronic, but completely detached from reality. There is no bigger cult than the masses of brain dead leftist (including yourself), that believes everything Daddy Democrats and their propagandists tell them without applying even the most basic of scrutiny or critical thought. Pathetic
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aggiehawg said:

Rockdoc said:

mesocosm said:

aggieforester05 said:

Sounds like Brad, got brainwashed by the left and their one sided sham committee. Do you libs really believe that the only reason people think the election was stolen, is because Trump told them it was? I mean 30 seconds of googling will tell you there were many reasons that people doubt the election and Trump's "rhetoric" has to be at the bottom of the list of reasons that they believe the scum bag Democrats, DNC propagandists, Big Tech, and anti Trump Rhinos cut serious ethical and legal corners in an effort to oust him. Hell Time wrote an article about it praising their efforts.


You people are just a cult at this point. No amount of googling will reveal any credible evidence of widespread election fraud against Trump. It's embarrassing

Brilliant!
Guess our 575 page thread on the Election Day doesn't register with a google search.
It may not, I forget that Meso is getting his information filtered by the DNC propagandists.
 
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