NPH- said:For a second, I thought you were referring to TA's practice of moderation....Rockdoc said:captkirk said:
This sure is a nice distraction for CMs from Brandon's dumpster fire administration.
It's all they've got and it's soon to be gone. I guess user name changes will be in order.
They don't care about what the Capitol Police did or didn't do because they aren't interested in the actual protest/riot itself nor really the people that participated in it. Their sole goal has been to use the pretense of the riot and "what went wrong that day" to go after Trump, his staffers, and potentially Republicans in Congress. This isn't an exercise in showing flaws in their security, how to change the electoral count process, etc as much as it is a political witchhunt to get Trump either on something criminal or push him to withdraw from 2024, and likely both.Tramp96 said:
I admit I haven't watched a minute of this farce hearing.
Has there been a genuine attempt to ask the Capitol Police why they held the door open for the protestors to enter, and even directed them where to go?
Because if not, then this sham trial is an even bigger sham than I thought it was.
Also note: this is THE WORST she could find. Unlike the BLM riots which happen largely in the dark and we rarely see the worst of em - THIS is the worst of it.SB 43rd STREET OG said:This is like daycare recess compared to your precious BLM riots. Or actually any liberal riots that are pretty much occurring on a regular basis really. It's impossible to take you seriously.Carolin_Gallego said:
Tourist and tour guides? That's that narrative you are going with?
first of all the shoe was on the other foot and there was absolutely zero accountability. The 1st in US history was the Obama admin spying on Trump during the campaign and during the transition; and then using the bogus Mueller investigation to try to drum him out of office on a complete lie of Russian collusion.Carolin_Gallego said:PabloSerna said:
I do not think Trump was stupid enough to say or do anything to get caught.
That ship has sailed. America has a historic problem with accountability. Incoming Presidents have shielded previous administrations from litigation with pardons for far less, like Nixon's DNC break-in and Bush's torture program. This situation is different in three ways though: it disrupted the peaceful transfer (1st in US history) and almost caused a constitutional crisis; the illicit activity falls into multiple jurisdictions (not just federal) as Trump attempted to change the vote in multiple States; Trump won't receive a pardon from the sitting President. Maybe America will do the right thing or maybe it won't. But if people here had any honesty, they would admit that they would be outraged and demanding action if the shoe was on the other foot.
You should have stopped here because its the only real thing you are good at.Carolin_Gallego said:
I don't think
— Benny Johnson (@bennyjohnson) June 29, 2022
go away keefCarolin_Gallego said:
Childish, like all your arguments.
Carolin_Gallego said:
Childish, like all your arguments.
Neehau said:"Trump asked Pelosi to call in national guard troops?".Rockdoc said:Carolin_Gallego said:
Why? She didn't want Joe Biden to become President? So silly.
So you denying Trump asked Pelosi to call in national guard troops?
What a remarkably stupid comment.
Trump is commander in chief.
Carolin_Gallego said:Name-calling.. Yeah, sounds like you are done.Tramp96 said:Uh, Sparky, you may want to reread your post above. That has nothing to do with what we are talking about. That's general appropriations and oversight, mostly budgetary and resource allocation.Carolin_Gallego said:Quote:
The United States Capitol Police (USCP) is overseen by the Capitol Police Board and has Congressional oversight by appropriations and authorizing committees from the U.S. House of Representatives and U.S. Senate. This oversight affords the Department the support and opportunity to continually ensure that the USCP meets the safety and security needs of the Congress, the staff, and the many visitors who come to the United States Capitol each day.
https://www.uscp.gov/the-department/oversight
Pelosi was not a chair or administrator of any committee supervising the Capitol Police at the time of the insurrection. She's not listed on any of those committees' websites today, either.
As I've already posted, this news story outlines exactly how the chain of command went. USCP had to ask for permission from SGT @ Arms to have NG on premises. SGT @ Arms denied permission. SGT @ Arms for House reports directly to Pelosi.
https://mynbc15.com/news/nation-world/trump-admin-was-ready-to-deploy-national-guard-on-jan-6-capitol-police-timeline-shows-january-donald
I'm done. You are not acting in good faith in any of your responses.
What you fail to understand: The Capitol Police Board oversees the Capitol Police
While a member of this board, the House sergeant-at-arms, does report to Pelosi, there's no indication that Pelosi prevented this official from accepting National Guard support. Furthermore, another member of the board, the Senate sergeant-at-arms, reports to the leading Republican member of the Senate, Mitch McConnell. There's no evidence that McConnell prevented this official from calling for support either.
New CBS poll: “investigating January 6th” was the LEAST important issues to voters pic.twitter.com/sLpWwS0Ox6
— InteractivePolls (@IAPolls2022) June 28, 2022
"Nixon bad"Carolin_Gallego said:PabloSerna said:
I do not think Trump was stupid enough to say or do anything to get caught.
That ship has sailed. America has a historic problem with accountability. Incoming Presidents have shielded previous administrations from litigation with pardons for far less, like Nixon's DNC break-in and Bush's torture program. This situation is different in three ways though: it disrupted the peaceful transfer (1st in US history) and almost caused a constitutional crisis; the illicit activity falls into multiple jurisdictions (not just federal) as Trump attempted to change the vote in multiple States; Trump won't receive a pardon from the sitting President. Maybe America will do the right thing or maybe it won't. But if people here had any honesty, they would admit that they would be outraged and demanding action if the shoe was on the other foot.
Like...mean tweets? Nevermind the nose-dive the country has taken since Biden took office on issues that actually impact people's lives. But your goal-tending for old man Joe is admirable.PabloSerna said:
Ahh.. it could be worse.
Amber Heard 2.0 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 pic.twitter.com/dD7QlfI0Nh
— Vince Langman (@LangmanVince) June 29, 2022
Hutchinson’s testimony gave prosecutors “something to chew on,” Trump's AG Bill Barr said, and “provided additional information on the question of foreknowledge that there was likely to be violence. I suspect the department will be digging deeper on that.” https://t.co/t8wq2glFhu
— Sadie Gurman (@sgurman) June 29, 2022
More good news about GeorgiaGeorgiAg said:
more footage of wheel grabbing surface. Trump was the driver's left!
BREAKING: Multiple sources including one who was at the WH on Jan 6 tell me Cipollone was not there in the am when Hutchinson testified she spoke with him. J6 Cmtes is aware of this discrepancy & are ignoring media inquiries about it. Seems she made up the entire conversation
— Jack Posobiec 🇺🇸 (@JackPosobiec) June 30, 2022
TouchePabloSerna said:
VP Harris
“Plainclothes” members of a special Electronic Surveillance Unit were embedded among #Jan6 protesters.
— The Epoch Times (@EpochTimes) June 29, 2022
According to experts, the activity may have been against the law and may have been done for the purpose of entrapment. https://t.co/GHOLOXX5PE
1872walker said:
So Jamie Raskin has been on the news defending Hutchinson.
Why is a member of the committee taking sides with a witness in a "bipartisan" fact-finding select committee?
Carolin?
will25u said:“Plainclothes” members of a special Electronic Surveillance Unit were embedded among #Jan6 protesters.
— The Epoch Times (@EpochTimes) June 29, 2022
According to experts, the activity may have been against the law and may have been done for the purpose of entrapment. https://t.co/GHOLOXX5PE
Except Schiff, Raskin, and most of our res libs still believe in the Collusion Delusion and that Trump is a Russian agent.akm91 said:
Anything that comes out of this farce has as much credibility as pencil neck's persistent proclamations that he has evidence of Trump's collusion with Russia during the 2016 election.
Let’s start the countdown… pic.twitter.com/1XXQv4UvST
— I Meme Therefore I Am 🇺🇸 (@ImMeme0) June 29, 2022
If questioner (Cheney) wants to appear fair to jury (American people), it probably is not a good idea to get caught on camera hugging the witness…see below from @Politico;already people have very strong feelings - both ways - about this hearing and pics like this don’t help; pic.twitter.com/lbdkMtzT4y
— Greta Van Susteren (@greta) June 29, 2022