... and it is okay with Libs if murderess show up at supreme court Justices houses with addresses provided by liberals, and of course it is okay if cities burn, because nothing is done to perps. Not even a condemnation of lawlessness from that hallowed body of law makers who were terrorized by guys with cell phones, who by the way were semi invited in by the capitol police when they opened barricades. A few shots up in the air would have discouraged the mob.
*****Official Jan 6th Committee Hearing Thread*****
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Tony Franklins Other Shoe said:Hey, a little warning when posting graphic violence and injuries. Come on Man.aggie93 said:K. So maybe you can explain to me how this is what these folks who actually got through did?Carolin_Gallego said:Im Gipper said:
Oh stop!
These rioters were never any threat to anything. They are mostly a rag tag bunch of losers that accomplished nothing other than a criminal record.
Trump trying to subvert the rule of law to stay in power also failed massively. His fake elector plan was rejected by everyone that mattered.
There was some threat. I'm glad you acknowledge Trump's concerted effort to break the law.I’m sorry but this is still one of the funniest videos pic.twitter.com/DIba6I6KsZ
— Ashley St. Clair (@stclairashley) June 10, 2022
Do we know which ones of these protestors are actually FBI plants yet or do we have to wait 25 years or so before that is revealed? (At least we didn't have to wait that long for the BS faux Michigan governor kidnapping BS...which still helped shape the November elections)
Imagine being so intent on killing babies, grooming children, hating capitalism and enjoying victimhood that you are eager to attach any shred of credibility you have left to this mess.
https://justthenews.com/government/congress/trump-pentagon-first-offered-national-guard-capitol-four-days-jan-6-riots-memo
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An official timeline of the Jan. 6 tragedy assembled by Capitol Police shows that a Defense Department official reached out to a Capitol Police deputy chief, Sean Gallagher, on Jan. 2, 2021 to see if a request for troops was forthcoming, but the offer was quickly rejected after a consultation with then-Chief Steve Sund.
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On Sunday, Jan. 3, 2021, just hours after Gallagher rejected the Pentagon's initial offer, the Capitol Police issued a new and darker security assessment to its commanders and executives and to the two political appointees in Congress responsible for security, the House and Senate sergeants at arms, the timeline shows.
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Within 24 hours, Sund had changed his mind and began seeking permission from the political powers surrounding House Speaker Nancy Pelosi and Senate Democratic Leader Chuck Schumer to deploy the National Guard as a preventive measure on Monday, Jan. 4, 2021.
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"We went to the Capitol Police and the Secret Service and law enforcement agencies and Mayor Bowser days before January 6, and asked them, 'Do you want thousands of National Guardsmen and women for January 6?'" Patel said in a detailed interview earlier this year. "They all said no. Why did we do that? The law requires them to request it before we can deploy them. And the DOD IG found we did not delay, we actually prepared in a preemptive fashion, which is what we do at DOD."
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"The Capitol Police timeline shows what we have been saying for the last year that DOD support via the National Guard was refused by the House and Senate sergeant at arms, who report to Pelosi," Patel said. "Now we have it in their own writing, days before Jan. 6. And despite the FBI warning of potential for serious disturbance, no perimeter was established, no agents put on the street, and no fence put up."
Gigem314 said:
https://justthenews.com/government/congress/trump-pentagon-first-offered-national-guard-capitol-four-days-jan-6-riots-memoQuote:
An official timeline of the Jan. 6 tragedy assembled by Capitol Police shows that a Defense Department official reached out to a Capitol Police deputy chief, Sean Gallagher, on Jan. 2, 2021 to see if a request for troops was forthcoming, but the offer was quickly rejected after a consultation with then-Chief Steve Sund.Quote:
On Sunday, Jan. 3, 2021, just hours after Gallagher rejected the Pentagon's initial offer, the Capitol Police issued a new and darker security assessment to its commanders and executives and to the two political appointees in Congress responsible for security, the House and Senate sergeants at arms, the timeline shows.Quote:
Within 24 hours, Sund had changed his mind and began seeking permission from the political powers surrounding House Speaker Nancy Pelosi and Senate Democratic Leader Chuck Schumer to deploy the National Guard as a preventive measure on Monday, Jan. 4, 2021.Quote:
"We went to the Capitol Police and the Secret Service and law enforcement agencies and Mayor Bowser days before January 6, and asked them, 'Do you want thousands of National Guardsmen and women for January 6?'" Patel said in a detailed interview earlier this year. "They all said no. Why did we do that? The law requires them to request it before we can deploy them. And the DOD IG found we did not delay, we actually prepared in a preemptive fashion, which is what we do at DOD."Quote:
"The Capitol Police timeline shows what we have been saying for the last year that DOD support via the National Guard was refused by the House and Senate sergeant at arms, who report to Pelosi," Patel said. "Now we have it in their own writing, days before Jan. 6. And despite the FBI warning of potential for serious disturbance, no perimeter was established, no agents put on the street, and no fence put up."
someone dropped the ball just as badly as Ulvade police.
Matt_ag98 said:Tony Franklins Other Shoe said:Hey, a little warning when posting graphic violence and injuries. Come on Man.aggie93 said:K. So maybe you can explain to me how this is what these folks who actually got through did?Carolin_Gallego said:Im Gipper said:
Oh stop!
These rioters were never any threat to anything. They are mostly a rag tag bunch of losers that accomplished nothing other than a criminal record.
Trump trying to subvert the rule of law to stay in power also failed massively. His fake elector plan was rejected by everyone that mattered.
There was some threat. I'm glad you acknowledge Trump's concerted effort to break the law.I’m sorry but this is still one of the funniest videos pic.twitter.com/DIba6I6KsZ
— Ashley St. Clair (@stclairashley) June 10, 2022
Do we know which ones of these protestors are actually FBI plants yet or do we have to wait 25 years or so before that is revealed? (At least we didn't have to wait that long for the BS faux Michigan governor kidnapping BS...which still helped shape the November elections)
I think we'll know where Jimmy Hoffa was buried before they'll let information on this out. Straight up corruption and cover up.
Currently a happy listless vessel and deplorable. #FDEMS TRUMP 2024.
Fight Fight Fight.
Fight Fight Fight.
The voice of reason cuts things down the middle again.
If you don’t watch it, you can’t debate it. pic.twitter.com/c9rOf8KW6r
— O.J. Simpson (@TheRealOJ32) June 10, 2022
Carolin_Gallego said:Illegally trying to takeover the U.S. executive is a big deal.93MarineHorn said:Yeah, but there aren't any hearings to investigate how Dem politicians encouraged and financially supported the rioters. Remember that little thing? January 6th was nothing compared to the Summer of '20 riots that Dems supported... not even remotely closeQuote:
why is this whataboutism always brought up. let me say it in plain English: BOTH THE BLM RIOTS AND JANUARY 6 WERE BAD.
And that never happened.
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Fight Fight Fight.
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OJ didn't watch it...Iowaggie said:
The voice of reason cuts things down the middle again.If you don’t watch it, you can’t debate it. pic.twitter.com/c9rOf8KW6r
— O.J. Simpson (@TheRealOJ32) June 10, 2022
...but if he had watched it, this is how he would have watched it.
Thought congress was Legislative and not Executiveannie88 said:Carolin_Gallego said:Illegally trying to takeover the U.S. executive is a big deal.93MarineHorn said:Yeah, but there aren't any hearings to investigate how Dem politicians encouraged and financially supported the rioters. Remember that little thing? January 6th was nothing compared to the Summer of '20 riots that Dems supported... not even remotely closeQuote:
why is this whataboutism always brought up. let me say it in plain English: BOTH THE BLM RIOTS AND JANUARY 6 WERE BAD.
And that never happened.
I just love the conflation of legal and protesting challenges to an election result with a minor disturbance at the capital to make a political point means an attempted coup worse than Pearl Harbor. It's beautiful. We should get some tv producer to put it on prime time.
Full time line is HERE
— MicDre (@dremicdre) June 10, 2022
Don't let these identical twins fool you ... one is an annoying, loud, obnoxious muppet - the other is Miss Piggy. pic.twitter.com/RzaQ6BesXV
— Catturd ™ (@catturd2) June 10, 2022
Don't leave out the music festival in Houston a few months agoTRADUCTOR said:
Festival seating at a Who concert killed more people than J6.
The ones on here who need to watch this won't.
They're cowards just like the Democrats, Cheney and Mitt et Al.
They're cowards just like the Democrats, Cheney and Mitt et Al.
Yet another video you won't be seeing from the Jan 6th committee (sound on) pic.twitter.com/iiX924dBfy
— Doggin Ultra MAGA 'The Minister of Meme' (@RickyBeBack) June 9, 2022
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This is why no one takes you or any liberal for that matter seriously. Is the truth of what happened that day not enough political ammunition for you? Why do you have to make it into something it wasn't? The extreme dishonesty has left you all with zero credibility. You'd be much more effective without the habitual lying and by sticking to the truth.Carolin_Gallego said:Illegally trying to takeover the U.S. executive is a big deal.93MarineHorn said:Yeah, but there aren't any hearings to investigate how Dem politicians encouraged and financially supported the rioters. Remember that little thing? January 6th was nothing compared to the Summer of '20 riots that Dems supported... not even remotely closeQuote:
why is this whataboutism always brought up. let me say it in plain English: BOTH THE BLM RIOTS AND JANUARY 6 WERE BAD.
Anyone who's had even a high school level government class knows that your premise is untrue, which means that you know that as well, assuming you're not a high school dropout.
Why do you feel the need to lie? Is it because the progressive agenda can not stand on merit alone and it's just become second nature to lie about every issue?
No matter the reason, this kind of dishonesty in discourse is the primary reason behind so much animosity and division in this country and it starts with the individual voter. Just stop lying and try to argue your positions with factual and logical arguments. The arguments may not sound as good on the surface, but they'll hold up to scrutiny and be much more effective over time assuming your position is superior. If you find that you have lie to win an argument, your position is almost certainly inferior.
Nobody storms doors from the outside that stand 17 ft high and weigh 20k pounds. There’s a bunch of gullible people on this bird app
— Sara (@skb_sara) June 10, 2022
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Please show me in Trumps tweets where he specifically told his followers to seek retribution againt Pence. You can't, because he did not.Carolin_Gallego said:Clob94 said:Clob checks his notes--Carolin_Gallego said:Pence -- not Trump -- asked Guard troops to help defend Capitol on Jan. 6Gigem314 said:He preemptively offered national guard assistance and additional security to the Capitol Police and Nancy Pelosi rejected it. Still waiting for the left to respond as to why their leaders didn't care enough to accept additional security.Malibu2 said:
Anyone want to respond why it took Trump more than an hour to do anything productive to try to stop it?
Yup-- Pence was definitely a part of the Trump administration.
So what's your next bit of poppycock and gobbledygook?
Check your notes again.
Pence rejected Trump's plan. And Trump made his dissatisfaction known to the rioters by tweeting,Quote:
Mike Pence didn't have the courage to do what should have been done to protect our Country and our Constitution.
Soon after, rioters in the Capitol were searching for Pence yelling "Hang Mike Pence!"
So what's your next bit?
Now I can sure as **** show you where Schumer advocated for violence against aupreme court justices.
Please, show me one direct quote or action where Trump commanded his followers to attack anyone or anything. Do this, and I promise not to "pants" you anymore on Texags.
Just wait for next time...annie88 said:Carolin_Gallego said:Illegally trying to takeover the U.S. executive is a big deal.93MarineHorn said:Yeah, but there aren't any hearings to investigate how Dem politicians encouraged and financially supported the rioters. Remember that little thing? January 6th was nothing compared to the Summer of '20 riots that Dems supported... not even remotely closeQuote:
why is this whataboutism always brought up. let me say it in plain English: BOTH THE BLM RIOTS AND JANUARY 6 WERE BAD.
And that never happened.
The whole thing is a farce: the party whose ideology endorses revolutionary, even violent change in government is accusing the party that resists changes to the form and process of government of trying to overthrow the legitimate process of government.
It's just laughable from the start, and that's how you know it is also a contrived narrative constructed around only select data.
It's just laughable from the start, and that's how you know it is also a contrived narrative constructed around only select data.
So?Carolin_Gallego said:How about, considering he was in the White House watching it on TV and was doing nothing to stop it.aggiehawg said:Considering it started while he was still speaking and he didn't know?Malibu2 said:
Anyone want to respond why it took Trump more than an hour to do anything productive to try to stop it?
If this were Star Wars this would have been the third run and blowing up the Death Star, and the third failure.
Darth Vader still lives in their heads in spite of getting their way in the last election, but people are done with this franchise. The Democrats have no new material, and patrons are fed up with overpriced, stale, popcorn.
Darth Vader still lives in their heads in spite of getting their way in the last election, but people are done with this franchise. The Democrats have no new material, and patrons are fed up with overpriced, stale, popcorn.
aggiehawg said:
Watermelon Man said:Just wait for next time...annie88 said:Carolin_Gallego said:Illegally trying to takeover the U.S. executive is a big deal.93MarineHorn said:Yeah, but there aren't any hearings to investigate how Dem politicians encouraged and financially supported the rioters. Remember that little thing? January 6th was nothing compared to the Summer of '20 riots that Dems supported... not even remotely closeQuote:
why is this whataboutism always brought up. let me say it in plain English: BOTH THE BLM RIOTS AND JANUARY 6 WERE BAD.
And that never happened.
They're doing this bs for Jan. 6.
It.
Didn't
Happen
But they'll be actual violence AGAIN and AGAIN from the left. They're calling for it now with Roe/Wade. Schumer asked for it against a Kavanaugh and got it.
The Democrats are the violent ones. Always.
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Fight Fight Fight.
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Sheila Jackson Lee..... bean burritos for lunch again.... must get outsidewbt5845 said:
sclaff said:Sheila Jackson Lee..... bean burritos for lunch again.... must get outsidewbt5845 said:
I think those were leftover props from Dr. No.
House members need counseling from just watching the hearing?Quote:
Notice to All House Staff:
As you know, the first of several publicly televised hearings surrounding the events of January 6, 2021, occurred yesterday evening. These hearings include graphic new footage and testimony related to the breach of the U.S. Capitol, which may be naturally unsettling or even re-triggering to some individuals within our community.
Please know that the professional counseling staff of the Office of Employee Assistance (OEA) are here to provide confidential support and problem resolution for individuals and teams impacted by these events or other stressors they may be experiencing.
Connecting with the OEA is as easy as calling 202-225-2400 or sending an email to schedule services or request immediate consultation, if needed. The OEA has also developed a toolkit to help managers and employees navigate stress and trauma in the workplace as staff continue to cope with the residual impact of these events. This toolkit can be downloaded for your own personal use and can be accessed on the OEA page on HouseNet.
More information about the resources, services, and offerings provided by the OEA can also be found on the OEA page on HouseNet.
Be well, and thank you for your continued service to the House.
MouthBQ98 said:
The whole thing is a farce: the party whose ideology endorses revolutionary, even violent change in government is accusing the party that resists changes to the form and process of government of trying to overthrow the legitimate process of government.
It's just laughable from the start, and that's how you know it is also a contrived narrative constructed around only select data.
So we are ignoring the fact that Trump consistently said Mike Pence should not follow the legitimate process of our government? He still says Mike should have never certified the election.
We believe progress is made through MORE discussion, not LESS, and we believe that to be true even if the topics are uncomfortable and we occasionally disagree with one another. - TexAgs
The name-calling technique making false associations is a child's game. The propagandist who uses this technique hopes that the audience will reject a person and their argument on this false basis.
The name-calling technique making false associations is a child's game. The propagandist who uses this technique hopes that the audience will reject a person and their argument on this false basis.
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The Washington Commanders fined defensive coordinator Jack Del Rio $100,000 after his comments this week comparing the 2020 protests in the wake of the death of George Floyd to the insurrection at the U.S. Capitol on Jan. 6, 2021.
The team announced Friday that Commanders coach Ron Rivera levied the fine on Del Rio, which will be donated to the United States Capitol Police Memorial Fund.
"This morning I met with Coach Del Rio to express how disappointed I am in his comments on Wednesday," Rivera said in a statement. "His comments do not reflect the organization's views and are extremely hurtful to our great community here in the DMV.
As we saw last night in the hearings, what happened on the Capitol on January 6, 2021 was an act of domestic terrorism. A group of citizens attempted to overturn the results of a free and fair election, and as a result, lives were lost and the Capitol building was damaged.
Coach Del Rio did apologize for his comments on Wednesday and he understands the distinction between the events of that dark day and peaceful protests, which are a hallmark of our democracy. He does have the right to voice his opinion as a citizen of the United States and it most certainly is his constitutional right to do so.
However, words have consequences and his words hurt a lot of people in our community. I want to make it clear that our organization will not tolerate any equivalency between those who demanded justice in the wake of George Floyd's murder and the actions of those on January 6 who sought to topple our government.
I cannot believe the lengths people will go to to pretend this didn't happen.
We have reached peak stupidity in this nation. We are headed to authoritarianism .
We have reached peak stupidity in this nation. We are headed to authoritarianism .
there was no basis, even if would have ultimately been proven wrong in a court since the issue just like had not be ruled upon, for arguing that pence had a role as trump posited? SCarolin_Gallego said:MouthBQ98 said:
The whole thing is a farce: the party whose ideology endorses revolutionary, even violent change in government is accusing the party that resists changes to the form and process of government of trying to overthrow the legitimate process of government.
It's just laughable from the start, and that's how you know it is also a contrived narrative constructed around only select data.
So we are ignoring the fact that Trump consistently said Mike Pence should not follow the legitimate process of our government? He still says Mike should have never certified the election.
Pretend what didn't happen? An insurrection? A riot? Vandalism?Quote:
I cannot believe the lengths people will go to to pretend this didn't happen.
We have reached peak stupidity in this nation. We are headed to authoritarianism
Carolin_Gallego said:MouthBQ98 said:
The whole thing is a farce: the party whose ideology endorses revolutionary, even violent change in government is accusing the party that resists changes to the form and process of government of trying to overthrow the legitimate process of government.
It's just laughable from the start, and that's how you know it is also a contrived narrative constructed around only select data.
So we are ignoring the fact that Trump consistently said Mike Pence should not follow the legitimate process of our government? He still says Mike should have never certified the election.
He can argue it was legal. Some people who were lawyers and government officials agreed more or less. A lot more people (that I agreed with) argued that Pence's actions were prescriptive and he did not have a choice and that is the opinion that prevailed.
People are allowed to be wrong, and make bad legal arguments. The process was followed. Debate was had, arguments were heard, and the process was carried out after being delayed a couple of hours by some misguided idiots causing a disruption. The process worked.