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Right, no arguments there and don't want to dive into the remaining points, I was just debating the singular argument that a vaccine will be the reason Trump is reelected.

I appreciate the discussion and your points of view.

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And I know that if my Dad is saying that, there are others exactly like him across the country who voted for Hillary but will vote for Trump this go around. Add that to the fact that I don't see how someone who voted for Trump in 2016 won't vote for him in 2020, and you have the makings of a bigger win for President Trump than in 2016.

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Most voters view the ongoing violent protests against police as primarily criminal in nature and think they will only make the criminal justice system in America worse.

A new Rasmussen Reports national telephone and online survey shows that just 32% of Likely U.S. Voters believe the mob violence that has continued for weeks in several major cities is primarily legitimate outrage over the police. Fifty-seven percent (57%) think instead that it's mostly criminals taking advantage of the situation. Twelve percent (12%) are not sure. (To see survey question wording, click here.)

This is comparable to attitudes when rioting flared up in Ferguson, Missouri following a police shooting in the summer of 2014 but slightly less critical of the protesters than Americans were following the 2015 violent riots in Baltimore.

Like those protests, the current mob violence is aimed at alleged race-driven police brutality, but only 21% of voters think it is likely to improve the criminal justice situation in America. Fifty-one percent (51%) believe the mob violence will make the criminal justice situation worse. Seventeen percent (17%) say it will have no impact, while 12% are undecided.

Among voters who think the mob violence is primarily legitimate outrage, however, 51% say it is likely to improve the criminal justice situation. Sixty-nine percent (69%) of those who see the mob violence as primarily criminal say it is more likely to worsen criminal justice in America.

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nortex97 said:

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I am confident more and more people are realizing the message of this video is true.

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nortex97 said:

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I am confident more and more people are realizing the message of this video is true.

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Many people apply the same adjectives to Donald Trump.

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Bingo Bango Bongo said:

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Well, he did vote for Hillary

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He argues what should now be obvious to any rational, thinking person, which is that "the size of the response in most of the world (not including Sweden) has been totally disproportionate to the threat."

Naysayers may point to Sweden's mortality rate to discount its success. But the virus has taken nearly 6,000 people in a country of 10 million, and one which tallies about 100,000 annual deaths each year. Given that 70 percent of those who died with COVID were over the age of 80 and very unhealthy, he argues, "quite a few of those 6,000 would have died this year anyway," making COVID a "mere blip in terms of its effect on mortality." And, while Sweden will likely continue to see deaths from COVID, it will likely never see anything close to those numbers again. The large number of deaths can be clearly attributed to a "complete lack of any immunity" to this novel coronavirus.

A few months ago, Dr. Kendrick says that "practically everyone who was tested had COVID," even if the presenting symptom was a "nose bleed" or "stomach pain." Today, he reports that he hasn't seen a COVID patient in over a month, and even when he tests patients with fever or cough, the "tests invariably come back as negative."

To be clear, Sweden's economy is wide open. No one is social distancing or wearing a ridiculous mask. Life is back to normal, and the infection rate is still falling. It's pretty safe to say the population in Sweden has now built some level of immunity to the virus, and all signs indeed point to the pandemic being over in Sweden.

What is the obvious takeaway from this? Perhaps Dr. Kendrick sums it up best, saying that he is "willing to bet that the countries that have shut down completely will see rates spike when they open up. If that is the case, then there won't have been any point in shutting down in the first place."
In other words, all of the lockdowns will have been meaningless.

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Remember how Donald Trump was totally doomed just a couple weeks ago? Grandpa Badfinger was ridin' high down in his basement and the GOP was going to be destroyed in November. All the smart people of smartness who make up liberal blue check Twitter tweeted it so it had to be true.

Good times.

And then last week it all changed, turning 180 on a dime as Biden stomped on his Pelosi. It's looking good for Trump and the Republicans again, and while there will be twists n' turns, and while we best not get cocky (Hat Tip: Glenn "Instapundit" Reynolds) the victory most of us patriots expect is coming clearly into focus as Biden becomes clearly more unfocused.

The polls have improved not just for Trump but for the Republicans running downticket too, not that we should put great store in the polls. Keep in mind that the polls were literally the only indicator showing Biden and the Dems were winning. There's no other manifestation of a blue wave out there. Do you see any Biden signs? There's just one in my neighborhood, which is all LA suburban woke wine women, and that's in a creepy house that the children fear. No, there are no Trump signs either, but then that would invite a hassle. A Biden billboard would presumably invite hosannas for wokeness. And yet, only a single strange-o has one and that's the guy we all suspect is eating the cats that go missing.

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will25u said:

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Trafalgar was one of the best pollsters in 2016. Texas isn't going blue.

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Bingo Bango Bongo said:

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Putting a Trump sign in your yard seems to be begging for vandalism, which just cries out how much of a **** show this country has become.

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These findings in the latest Georgetown Institute of Politics and Public Service Battleground Poll, conducted by Republican pollster Ed Goeas and Democratic pollster Celinda Lake, indicate the President is facing major headwinds for his reelection as the two parties head into their national conventions.

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Aggie4242 said:

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You might want to read the actual study that tweet is referencing.

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These findings in the latest Georgetown Institute of Politics and Public Service Battleground Poll, conducted by Republican pollster Ed Goeas and Democratic pollster Celinda Lake, indicate the President is facing major headwinds for his reelection as the two parties head into their national conventions.

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https://politics.georgetown.edu/2020/08/10/three-months-out-from-the-election-president-trump-faces-eroding-support-on-the-economy-major-challenges-with-independent-suburban-and-middle-class-voters/

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texaglurkerguy said:

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I'll never understand why people insist on using the "I haven't seen many yard signs or bumper stickers for X candidate" as a legitimate measure of how well that candidate is doing/expected to do. I remember this was a favorite argument of Bernie bros back in 2016/Beto supporters in 2018, and we all know how that turned out.

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will25u said:

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If Biden is underperforming this bad with hispanics, I don't see how he wins.

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