As noted above, its not the "constitutional right" being exercised. Its a Georgia statutory right.Quote:
. Seems to punish a defendant for exercising a constitutional right.
Right to a speedy trial is a constitutional right. Shouldn't have to waive other rights to get what is included in the constitution. And exercising that right should not result in a deck stacked against you where you are not given discovery until the last minutes and are not allowed to present witnesses to counter it because you didn't provide their statement 10 days in advance. If the deadlines are waived, they should be waived for everybody.etxag02 said:
You're turned around. The Defense is waiving their rights with their speedy trial demand. The State is requesting the Court advise the Defendants of the effects of their speedy trial demands.
Isn't one based on the other? If the state has presented evidence to a grand jury to secure an indictment, why should they be able to hang onto that evidence until the last minute while demanding that the defense turn in their stuff 10 days in advance? I get that it is Georgia law, but it seems to unfairly stack the deck against the defense for asking for what is at its heart a 6th amendment right. Why is that law constitutional if it unfairly burdens the defense while not placing the same burden on the state?Im Gipper said:As noted above, its not the "constitutional right" being exercised. Its a Georgia statutory right.Quote:
. Seems to punish a defendant for exercising a constitutional right.
If the issue were the Sixth Amendment speedy trial, none of the things you quoted would be forfeited.
I would agree with you that we don't respect that right very well. But there are also a sizeable number of defendants that string out their court cases as long as possible before going to trial because they are out on bond and know they are likely to be convicted.etxag02 said:
IMHO, and practically speaking, the U.S. does not respect that constitutional right. People can sit in jail for years before going to trial, or their case is dismissed.
Georgia law has their own rules for a speedy trial.
Ellis Wyatt said:And we can be certain that's what they'll do. This is what happens in banana republics.HTownAg98 said:
No, she's arguing that deadlines for turning over information prior to trial won't apply. They will still get all of it, but it reads like the state can dump it on them the day before trial if they want to.
I ask everyone to read those cases. None of them hold what DA Willis says they do.
— Techno Fog (@Techno_Fog) August 31, 2023
False representation to the Court makes DA Willis guilty of the same conduct she accuses the defendants.
It's a violation of Ga. Code Ann. § 16-10-20.1 (false statement to Court) https://t.co/OB9a0XrGIO pic.twitter.com/XYIt8dBkQC
In Georgia, in D.C., and in New York, the actual law and actual rights are completely meaningless. None of this is being done in the pursuit of justice. It is being done in the pursuit of vengeance and oppression. No matter what casserole you want to dismiss it as.HTownAg98 said:Ellis Wyatt said:And we can be certain that's what they'll do. This is what happens in banana republics.HTownAg98 said:
No, she's arguing that deadlines for turning over information prior to trial won't apply. They will still get all of it, but it reads like the state can dump it on them the day before trial if they want to.
This is a casserole of nonsense.
Ellis Wyatt said:In Georgia, in D.C., and in New York, the actual law and actual rights are completely meaningless. None of this is being done in the pursuit of justice. It is being done in the pursuit of vengeance and oppression. No matter what casserole you want to dismiss it as.HTownAg98 said:Ellis Wyatt said:And we can be certain that's what they'll do. This is what happens in banana republics.HTownAg98 said:
No, she's arguing that deadlines for turning over information prior to trial won't apply. They will still get all of it, but it reads like the state can dump it on them the day before trial if they want to.
This is a casserole of nonsense.
But of course, you voted for it.
I voted for Biden/Kemp. A lot of Georgians did.aggiehawg said:
According to NBC News, Biden received over 90,000 more votes for President than Stacey Abrams did in 2020 in...wait for wait for it...Fulton County?
Biden results
Abrams results
Seems odd to me.
And you will vote Biden again. But thanks for sharing, I guess?GeorgiAg said:I voted for Biden/Kemp. A lot of Georgians did.aggiehawg said:
According to NBC News, Biden received over 90,000 more votes for President than Stacey Abrams did in 2020 in...wait for wait for it...Fulton County?
Biden results
Abrams results
Seems odd to me.
🚨🚨 #PrinciplesFirst alert:
— Principles First (@Principles_1st) August 31, 2023
Gov. @BrianKempGA rejects the idea of ousting Fani Willis: “The bottom line is that in the state of Georgia, as long as I’m governor, we’re going to follow the law and the Constitution.”
Keep leading, Governor. pic.twitter.com/wRa8jAHQMh
Why are Kemp and Raffensperger turning a blind eye to the problems with Dominion tht even the federal government agency CISA, has issued an alert?GeorgiAg said:
Kemp standing supporting the constitution and rule of law again rather than Orange Man.🚨🚨 #PrinciplesFirst alert:
— Principles First (@Principles_1st) August 31, 2023
Gov. @BrianKempGA rejects the idea of ousting Fani Willis: “The bottom line is that in the state of Georgia, as long as I’m governor, we’re going to follow the law and the Constitution.”
Keep leading, Governor. pic.twitter.com/wRa8jAHQMh
He's a complete fraud. He is a threat to our democracy.SockStilkings said:
And people try and tell me Kemp is a "true Republican" and "conservative" when he fully endorses and supports Fani Willis.
What a poor take. He is a lib for ignoring voting fraud in his state and endorsing a deranged ultra lib DA in Fulton County who is abusing her office to "get Trump".GeorgiAg said:
F16: If you don't support Orange Man no matter what he does, you are a RINO/lib. This guy is a lib?
Looks like he has not even gotten a single other person to sign on to this.jt2hunt said:
I'm suggesting will see in the end if he ends up garnering 3/5 of each chamber
As a Georgia State Senator, I am officially calling for an emergency session to review the actions of Fani Willis.
— Sen. Colton Moore (@realColtonMoore) August 17, 2023
America is under attack. I’m not going to sit back and watch as radical left prosecutors politically TARGET political opponents. pic.twitter.com/gpzg2l5uIU
That is the 1 person calling for it. He has not gotten anyone else to sign off on this.damiond said:
not trueAs a Georgia State Senator, I am officially calling for an emergency session to review the actions of Fani Willis.
— Sen. Colton Moore (@realColtonMoore) August 17, 2023
America is under attack. I’m not going to sit back and watch as radical left prosecutors politically TARGET political opponents. pic.twitter.com/gpzg2l5uIU
aggiehawg said:
According to NBC News, Biden received over 90,000 more votes for President than Stacey Abrams did in 2020 in...wait for wait for it...Fulton County?
Biden results
Abrams results
Seems odd to me.
Sitting with your shotgun in your lap doesn't make you a conservative. I mean, you voted for Biden and I bet you own at least one shotgun.GeorgiAg said:
F16: If you don't support Orange Man no matter what he does, you are a RINO/lib. This guy is a lib?
aggiehawg said:
According to NBC News, Biden received over 90,000 more votes for President than Stacey Abrams did in 2020 in...wait for wait for it...Fulton County?
Biden results
Abrams results
Seems odd to me.
I have several including the Kel Tec KSG 25 that holds 25 12 gauge shells.Slicer97 said:Sitting with your shotgun in your lap doesn't make you a conservative. I mean, you voted for Biden and I bet you own at least one shotgun.GeorgiAg said:
F16: If you don't support Orange Man no matter what he does, you are a RINO/lib. This guy is a lib?
Yeah. I've read some of the cited cases (most of them aren't long) and Willis is correctly saying that when the defendant requests a speedy trial, the deadlines are essentially meaningless and its up to the defense to argue another reason why they need more time or evidence should be excluded.Im Gipper said:
Taking those enumerated points alone, it certainly would be a misrepresentation. However, the body of the motion sets forth the law and explains what the cases say.
For example, on the first item regarding 10 days notice, the remedy is to ask for a continuance of the trial. The defendant cannot say "no continuance" and still have that information excluded.
I give it 2 Pinocchios.
