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Pending indictment against Trump in Georgia
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eric76 said:
Aren't the vast majority of petitions to dismiss a criminal case denied?
When you got that Kraken money from the rubes you try every dismissal motion and every appeal. It ain't her cheddar.
So Chesebro is a lifelong liberal attorney with a Harvard JD who once worked for Al Gore that is now facing decades in prison because he wrote memos about the possibility of using alternate electors, something democrats have done before, and shared them with Trump's attorneys? It's a good thing Fani Willis is totally unbiased because no one is above the law and dangerous criminals like that cannot be allowed near the streets of Atlanta. That man's family deserves to see him locked up for decades to come for those horrendous acts.
I'll believe Fani Willis under one condition - If Biden loses the 2024 election and he tries to overthrow the election results over the "racist voter ID law" and she throws the book at him with a RICO charge
https://abcnews.go.com/US/live-updates/trump-fraud-trial/you-lied-yesterday-trump-attorney-accuses-witness-104077129?id=103642561
After a brief interruption, Fields presented a 2014 email where McConney asked Larson, "I hate to be a pest, but the accountants are coming in tomorrow to go over my valuations. Any chance you can answer my question below?"
Asked about that email, Larson acknowledged that McConney was using his information to support Trump Organization valuations in 2013.
It was at this point that Fields directly asked if Larson had lied yesterday, prompting the witness to be excused briefly.
"He perjured himself yesterday, in my opinion," Kise told the court.
"This is a performance … not a legal issue," Wallace countered.
"He was accused of perjury on the stand," Engoron noted before bringing Larson back into the courtroom.
While Larson still denied that he "worked with" McConney on the valuations, he ultimately conceded that he knew the information he provided was used to value Trump properties at the time -- seemingly contradicting his testimony yesterday.
"You knew in 2013 that Mr. McConney was using the information you sent him, mainly the capitalization rates, to value the Trump properties?" Fields said.
"I did," Larson said.
After a brief interruption, Fields presented a 2014 email where McConney asked Larson, "I hate to be a pest, but the accountants are coming in tomorrow to go over my valuations. Any chance you can answer my question below?"
Asked about that email, Larson acknowledged that McConney was using his information to support Trump Organization valuations in 2013.
It was at this point that Fields directly asked if Larson had lied yesterday, prompting the witness to be excused briefly.
"He perjured himself yesterday, in my opinion," Kise told the court.
"This is a performance … not a legal issue," Wallace countered.
"He was accused of perjury on the stand," Engoron noted before bringing Larson back into the courtroom.
While Larson still denied that he "worked with" McConney on the valuations, he ultimately conceded that he knew the information he provided was used to value Trump properties at the time -- seemingly contradicting his testimony yesterday.
"You knew in 2013 that Mr. McConney was using the information you sent him, mainly the capitalization rates, to value the Trump properties?" Fields said.
"I did," Larson said.
Yes. Motion practice requires motions to be made at the correct times to preserve error on appeal. Almost malpractice not to make the motion at the appropriate time if crap goes off of the rails later in the case.eric76 said:
Aren't the vast majority of petitions to dismiss a criminal case denied?
NEWS: Former Trump lawyer Sidney Powell is pleading guilty in the Georgia election subversion case, one day before her trial was scheduled to begin.
— Zachary Cohen (@ZcohenCNN) October 19, 2023
MORE TO COME
Wow! Now that's shocking!
I thought she would go down with the Kraken ship for sure.
Does she have personal knowledge she can testify with against Trump? Surely there is a cooperation deal on this?
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I thought she would go down with the Kraken ship for sure.
Does she have personal knowledge she can testify with against Trump? Surely there is a cooperation deal on this?
I'm Gipper
As a part of the negotiated plea deal, Powell has pleaded guilty to six misdemeanor counts. She'll get First Offender status and will be required to testify truthfully against co-defendants in future proceedings. Sentence involves approximately 6 years probation.
— Anna Bower (@AnnaBower) October 19, 2023
The Kraken has finally been released!will25u said:NEWS: Former Trump lawyer Sidney Powell is pleading guilty in the Georgia election subversion case, one day before her trial was scheduled to begin.
— Zachary Cohen (@ZcohenCNN) October 19, 2023
MORE TO COME
Pleading to 6 counts of "Conspiracy to Commit Intentional Interference with Performance of Election Duties"
All this stuff relates to the elections director for Coffee County, GA improperly giving people hired by Powell access to voting equipment/information they're not illegally allowed to access.
Count 1: Attempting to tamper with ballot marking and tabulating machines
Count 2: Attempting to take possession of ballots by persons not authorized by law to do so
Count 3: Use of computer in attempt to obtain proprietary software of Dominion Voting Systems Corp.
Count 4: Use of computer in attempt to access confidential voter data
Counts 5 and 6 are just additional instances of Counts 3 and 4.
Powell will get 6 years probation, a $6,000 fine, $2,700 restitution to the state of Georgia, writing an apology letter to the citizens of Georgia and to testify truthfully at trial
— Hugo Lowell (@hugolowell) October 19, 2023
An apology letter? This is some serious punishment! Must have been a VERY seroius crime!
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That speedy trial motion worked very well for her.
Chesebro had been trying to exclude evidence on account of attorney-client privilege.
More on the Fulton County docket: Judge McAfee DENIES Ken Chesebro’s request to exclude certain evidence at trial.
— Anna Bower (@AnnaBower) October 18, 2023
Chesebro argued that some memos and emails he wrote were attorney-client privileged. But McAfee concludes that the documents fall within the crime-fraud exception. pic.twitter.com/2sdfQlB2A1
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in all seriousness, I've had many occasions where the first thing a client tells me they want is an apology.Im Gipper said:Powell will get 6 years probation, a $6,000 fine, $2,700 restitution to the state of Georgia, writing an apology letter to the citizens of Georgia and to testify truthfully at trial
— Hugo Lowell (@hugolowell) October 19, 2023
An apology letter? This is some serious punishment! Must have been a VERY seroius crime!
This is a criminal case. An apology letter is a joke.
As an aside, aren't you a bankruptcy attorney in Houston? Exciting times down there if you are jonesing to look at some closed Chapter 11 cases!
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As an aside, aren't you a bankruptcy attorney in Houston? Exciting times down there if you are jonesing to look at some closed Chapter 11 cases!
I'm Gipper
HTownAg98 said:
That speedy trial motion worked very well for her.
It's basically the same deal Scott Hall got, who didn't file such a motion. Both Powell and Hall are "glue guys" who had contact with a number of the other co-defendants including those who weren't on the ground themselves in Georgia.
Their testimony, I imagine, is viewed as quite valuable as it will presumably help tie the conspiracy together, in the view of the prosecutors.
As to Chesebro specifically, because his trial starts tomorrow, his whole defense is he was a lawyer doing lawyer things. They now have another lawyer pleading guilty to crimes and I imagine they believe her testimony will help break through the idea they were just being lawyers.
aggiehawg said:Yes. Motion practice requires motions to be made at the correct times to preserve error on appeal. Almost malpractice not to make the motion at the appropriate time if crap goes off of the rails later in the case.eric76 said:
Aren't the vast majority of petitions to dismiss a criminal case denied?
Interestingly enough, the judge here said he felt like most of their motions probably weren't being filed at the correct time. But he went ahead and denied them anyways.
Fulton County prosecutors drop all 7 felony charges against Sidney Powell - in exchange for a misdemeanor plea.
— Techno Fog (@Techno_Fog) October 19, 2023
They overcharged and they knew it. pic.twitter.com/fL9JkUTqkk
TechnoFrog is a great twitter follow, but he loves to spin also.
A plea does not mean a prosecutor knew they overcharged.
There is really only 1 person Fani is after here (maybe 2 with Rudy). She will let everyone walk if they agree to testify against Trump. The hate is that strong, its not about justice.
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A plea does not mean a prosecutor knew they overcharged.
There is really only 1 person Fani is after here (maybe 2 with Rudy). She will let everyone walk if they agree to testify against Trump. The hate is that strong, its not about justice.
I'm Gipper
Breaking News: Man of Twitter discovers concept of Plea Dealwill25u said:Fulton County prosecutors drop all 7 felony charges against Sidney Powell - in exchange for a misdemeanor plea.
— Techno Fog (@Techno_Fog) October 19, 2023
They overcharged and they knew it. pic.twitter.com/fL9JkUTqkk
What exactly is the point of Georgia having a pardon system if people have to serve out their full sentences first?
TechnoFog* and she*Im Gipper said:
TechnoFrog is a great twitter follow, but he loves to spin also.
A plea does not mean a prosecutor knew they overcharged.
There is really only 1 person Fani is after here (maybe 2 with Rudy). She will let everyone walk if they agree to testify against Trump. The hate is that strong, its not about justice.
I am not a lawyer, so I don't know about the intricacy's of it.
Restore your voting rights, be able to get a decent job, clear your name.
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Im Gipper said:
Restore your voting rights, be able to get a decent job, clear your name.
So basically no real benefit if you are of retirement age ( I know the vast majority of defendants are working age)
I'm far from a bleeding heart lib but there is 0 point of having a pardon system if 100% of the sentence has to be served even if a pardon is granted
Solid case when the person most out over their skis and promising krakens and such, who actually did some admittedly and somewhat nefarious tactics in her hunt for the kraken, has all felony charges dropped in return for a plea on some misdemeanors and an apology letter.
Any idea she has "damning" testimony on Trump is laughable. Three plus years later and TDS sufferers still think there is some bombshell left to come out regarding Trump, elections, Jan 6th and classified documents.
Let me solve the mystery for you... there are no secret bombshells. Instead, the left is now left to inventing crimes.
BTW - Let her whittle it down to just Trump. Its perfect, as it then is dismissed due to his immunity. I am not here to argue that, it is simply FACT.
Have fun Trump Haterz, keep up little "wins" like this as he coasts to victory in 2024.
Any idea she has "damning" testimony on Trump is laughable. Three plus years later and TDS sufferers still think there is some bombshell left to come out regarding Trump, elections, Jan 6th and classified documents.
Let me solve the mystery for you... there are no secret bombshells. Instead, the left is now left to inventing crimes.
BTW - Let her whittle it down to just Trump. Its perfect, as it then is dismissed due to his immunity. I am not here to argue that, it is simply FACT.
Have fun Trump Haterz, keep up little "wins" like this as he coasts to victory in 2024.
Yeah it's a big win for Trump. Well up until the moment she testifies against Trump as part of her plea agreement, in accordance to what she has agreed to testify to.fka ftc said:
Solid case when the person most out over their skis and promising krakens and such, who actually did some admittedly and somewhat nefarious tactics in her hunt for the kraken, has all felony charges dropped in return for a plea on some misdemeanors and an apology letter.
Any idea she has "damning" testimony on Trump is laughable. Three plus years later and TDS sufferers still think there is some bombshell left to come out regarding Trump, elections, Jan 6th and classified documents.
Let me solve the mystery for you... there are no secret bombshells. Instead, the left is now left to inventing crimes.
BTW - Let her whittle it down to just Trump. Its perfect, as it then is dismissed due to his immunity. I am not here to argue that, it is simply FACT.
Have fun Trump Haterz, keep up little "wins" like this as he coasts to victory in 2024.
Doesn't have to be a bombshell, most people understand what the Trump team was trying to do. But now they have someone who was part of that team willing to talk in a courtroom as a witness.shiftyandquick said:Yeah it's a big win for Trump. Well up until the moment she testifies against Trump as part of her plea agreement, in accordance to what she has agreed to testify to.fka ftc said:
Solid case when the person most out over their skis and promising krakens and such, who actually did some admittedly and somewhat nefarious tactics in her hunt for the kraken, has all felony charges dropped in return for a plea on some misdemeanors and an apology letter.
Any idea she has "damning" testimony on Trump is laughable. Three plus years later and TDS sufferers still think there is some bombshell left to come out regarding Trump, elections, Jan 6th and classified documents.
Let me solve the mystery for you... there are no secret bombshells. Instead, the left is now left to inventing crimes.
BTW - Let her whittle it down to just Trump. Its perfect, as it then is dismissed due to his immunity. I am not here to argue that, it is simply FACT.
Have fun Trump Haterz, keep up little "wins" like this as he coasts to victory in 2024.
What was Trump team trying to do and how you figure it was illegal?Opalka said:Doesn't have to be a bombshell, most people understand what the Trump team was trying to do. But now they have someone who was part of that team willing to talk in a courtroom as a witness.shiftyandquick said:Yeah it's a big win for Trump. Well up until the moment she testifies against Trump as part of her plea agreement, in accordance to what she has agreed to testify to.fka ftc said:
Solid case when the person most out over their skis and promising krakens and such, who actually did some admittedly and somewhat nefarious tactics in her hunt for the kraken, has all felony charges dropped in return for a plea on some misdemeanors and an apology letter.
Any idea she has "damning" testimony on Trump is laughable. Three plus years later and TDS sufferers still think there is some bombshell left to come out regarding Trump, elections, Jan 6th and classified documents.
Let me solve the mystery for you... there are no secret bombshells. Instead, the left is now left to inventing crimes.
BTW - Let her whittle it down to just Trump. Its perfect, as it then is dismissed due to his immunity. I am not here to argue that, it is simply FACT.
Have fun Trump Haterz, keep up little "wins" like this as he coasts to victory in 2024.
Was she ever even on a phone call or in a room with Trump?
Keep up the hope you "got him", its thoroughly entertaining.
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yes I am. And this whole thing has effected me a lot. I have some big roles in very active open complex cases that have just been shotgun-reassigned. Had a hearing this morning and it was tense to say the least.Im Gipper said:
This is a criminal case. An apology letter is a joke.
As an aside, aren't you a bankruptcy attorney in Houston? Exciting times down there if you are jonesing to look at some closed Chapter 11 cases!
What a complete Charlie Foxtrot.
LOL.fka ftc said:
Solid case when the person most out over their skis and promising krakens and such, who actually did some admittedly and somewhat nefarious tactics in her hunt for the kraken, has all felony charges dropped in return for a plea on some misdemeanors and an apology letter.
Any idea she has "damning" testimony on Trump is laughable. Three plus years later and TDS sufferers still think there is some bombshell left to come out regarding Trump, elections, Jan 6th and classified documents.
Let me solve the mystery for you... there are no secret bombshells. Instead, the left is now left to inventing crimes.
BTW - Let her whittle it down to just Trump. Its perfect, as it then is dismissed due to his immunity. I am not here to argue that, it is simply FACT.
Have fun Trump Haterz, keep up little "wins" like this as he coasts to victory in 2024.
"Here's why one of Trump's co-defendants taking a plea deal in exchange for testimony is actually really good news for him..."
Spin much harder and you'll throw the earth off its axis.
Spin? Not at all, just an objective take.Correction said:LOL.fka ftc said:
Solid case when the person most out over their skis and promising krakens and such, who actually did some admittedly and somewhat nefarious tactics in her hunt for the kraken, has all felony charges dropped in return for a plea on some misdemeanors and an apology letter.
Any idea she has "damning" testimony on Trump is laughable. Three plus years later and TDS sufferers still think there is some bombshell left to come out regarding Trump, elections, Jan 6th and classified documents.
Let me solve the mystery for you... there are no secret bombshells. Instead, the left is now left to inventing crimes.
BTW - Let her whittle it down to just Trump. Its perfect, as it then is dismissed due to his immunity. I am not here to argue that, it is simply FACT.
Have fun Trump Haterz, keep up little "wins" like this as he coasts to victory in 2024.
"Here's why one of Trump's co-defendants taking a plea deal in exchange for testimony is actually really good news for him..."
Spin much harder and you'll throw the earth off its axis.
Let me know when Sidney releases the "kraken" of testimony against Trump. Again, has she ever even met the dude?
Some of you act like she was WH counsel.
"The absence of the word accountability is not the same as wanting no accountability" -unknown
"You can never go wrong by staying silent if there is nothing apt to say" -Walter Isaacson
"You can never go wrong by staying silent if there is nothing apt to say" -Walter Isaacson
fka ftc said:Spin? Not at all, just an objective take.Correction said:LOL.fka ftc said:
Solid case when the person most out over their skis and promising krakens and such, who actually did some admittedly and somewhat nefarious tactics in her hunt for the kraken, has all felony charges dropped in return for a plea on some misdemeanors and an apology letter.
Any idea she has "damning" testimony on Trump is laughable. Three plus years later and TDS sufferers still think there is some bombshell left to come out regarding Trump, elections, Jan 6th and classified documents.
Let me solve the mystery for you... there are no secret bombshells. Instead, the left is now left to inventing crimes.
BTW - Let her whittle it down to just Trump. Its perfect, as it then is dismissed due to his immunity. I am not here to argue that, it is simply FACT.
Have fun Trump Haterz, keep up little "wins" like this as he coasts to victory in 2024.
"Here's why one of Trump's co-defendants taking a plea deal in exchange for testimony is actually really good news for him..."
Spin much harder and you'll throw the earth off its axis.
Let me know when Sidney releases the "kraken" of testimony against Trump. Again, has she ever even met the dude?
Some of you act like she was WH counsel.
Yes, she was at that December Oval Office meeting where the WH Counsel ran into the room to try to break up when he heard about it
So, where is the crime?TXAggie2011 said:fka ftc said:Spin? Not at all, just an objective take.Correction said:LOL.fka ftc said:
Solid case when the person most out over their skis and promising krakens and such, who actually did some admittedly and somewhat nefarious tactics in her hunt for the kraken, has all felony charges dropped in return for a plea on some misdemeanors and an apology letter.
Any idea she has "damning" testimony on Trump is laughable. Three plus years later and TDS sufferers still think there is some bombshell left to come out regarding Trump, elections, Jan 6th and classified documents.
Let me solve the mystery for you... there are no secret bombshells. Instead, the left is now left to inventing crimes.
BTW - Let her whittle it down to just Trump. Its perfect, as it then is dismissed due to his immunity. I am not here to argue that, it is simply FACT.
Have fun Trump Haterz, keep up little "wins" like this as he coasts to victory in 2024.
"Here's why one of Trump's co-defendants taking a plea deal in exchange for testimony is actually really good news for him..."
Spin much harder and you'll throw the earth off its axis.
Let me know when Sidney releases the "kraken" of testimony against Trump. Again, has she ever even met the dude?
Some of you act like she was WH counsel.
Yes, she was at that December Oval Office meeting where the WH Counsel ran into the room to try to break up when he heard about it
At no point has Trump ever asked, ordered, or stated in any manner that votes be changed, fictitiously cast, ballots fabricated, tallies changed (without investigation and reason). Never.
So again, where is the crime?
"The absence of the word accountability is not the same as wanting no accountability" -unknown
"You can never go wrong by staying silent if there is nothing apt to say" -Walter Isaacson
"You can never go wrong by staying silent if there is nothing apt to say" -Walter Isaacson
Et tu CheeseBro?
Going to be lots of apology letters written at this rate!
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BREAKING: Ken CHESEBRO is in Georgia court pleading guilty.
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Going to be lots of apology letters written at this rate!
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fka ftc said:Spin? Not at all, just an objective take.Correction said:LOL.fka ftc said:
Solid case when the person most out over their skis and promising krakens and such, who actually did some admittedly and somewhat nefarious tactics in her hunt for the kraken, has all felony charges dropped in return for a plea on some misdemeanors and an apology letter.
Any idea she has "damning" testimony on Trump is laughable. Three plus years later and TDS sufferers still think there is some bombshell left to come out regarding Trump, elections, Jan 6th and classified documents.
Let me solve the mystery for you... there are no secret bombshells. Instead, the left is now left to inventing crimes.
BTW - Let her whittle it down to just Trump. Its perfect, as it then is dismissed due to his immunity. I am not here to argue that, it is simply FACT.
Have fun Trump Haterz, keep up little "wins" like this as he coasts to victory in 2024.
"Here's why one of Trump's co-defendants taking a plea deal in exchange for testimony is actually really good news for him..."
Spin much harder and you'll throw the earth off its axis.
Let me know when Sidney releases the "kraken" of testimony against Trump. Again, has she ever even met the dude?
Some of you act like she was WH counsel.
William Barr was the Attorney General of the United States and has stated numerous times Trump is unfit for office.
Or is it only the word of the WH counsel that's now important in TrumpWorld?
because I can post a lot of interesting things that the WH counsels have stated about Trump as well.
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