Pending indictment against Trump in Georgia

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GarryowenAg said:

I wonder when the judge will actually make his ruling. Any insight into when this is expected?
Judge set himself a two week deadline that comes up tomorrow. If he keeps to it, sometime tomorrow or tomorrow night. Friday evening news dump, I guess.
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aggiehawg said:

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The paragraph starting with however says you can be charged with a conspiracy if a co-conspirator is found to have committed an overt act. So it looks like MM could still be in this case even with the only overt act he allegedly committed being thrown out.
Good point. The counter to that is whether his arranging a phone call that has now been quashed still a conspiracy as to him? Not inclined to find a persuasive argument that it is as applied to Meadows.
Overt acts do not themselves have to be criminal under Georgia law.

So, even if turns out that any of the overt acts Meadows allegedly committed were not criminal themselves, it doesn't really matter. (And Meadows is alleged to have committed several...Overt Acts #5, #9, #19, etc.)

Assuming he committed the alleged overt act, the relevant questions as to Meadows would be the same as anyone charged...were they aware of the conspiracy, did they have the intent to participate in it, and was the purpose of the conspiracy criminal in nature.
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will25u said:



That'll be an absolute three ring circus if she shows up to testify. Jordan won't put up with her 'tude.
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and was the purpose of the conspiracy criminal in nature.
And that's where it fails. What the "crime" that was the goal of an alleged conspiracy? Questioning multiple irregularities across several states in 2020 election? Asking for an investigation as to why the numbers of votes cast and voting age population do not jive?

With Raffensperger, already had a federal judge's decision preelection finding the use of Dominion violated Georgia law and the system was deeply flawed and insecure. Raffensperger and Gabe Sterling knew all of that before the election. Yet Raffenspeger lied to Trump, lied to the Governor and lied to the Georgia public about the issues. And when he was called to testify BY THE JUDGE during evidentiary hearings earlier this year, he went uo the 11th Circuit to avoid being put on the stand and asked questions, again BY THE JUDGE.
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A little premature. Save the popcorn for tomorrow.
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She will just claim that she can't testify about an ongoing investigation.

Nothing will come up from the Jordan sideshow.


Fani should be disqualified in this case should be dismissed!!! Congress is trying to get in on the action, but they will embarrass themselves as

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jt2hunt said:

This thread is insanely silent from all the Trump haters.
Checkout the U. of Texas fan site. (Or don't.) It's absolutely toxic with TDS..
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GarryowenAg said:

I wonder when the judge will actually make his ruling. Any insight into when this is expected?
He set a deadline for himself for Friday.
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aggiehawg said:

A little premature. Save the popcorn for tomorrow.


I was told it would happen today. Disappointed.
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aggiehawg said:

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and was the purpose of the conspiracy criminal in nature.
And that's where it fails. What the "crime" that was the goal of an alleged conspiracy? Questioning multiple irregularities across several states in 2020 election? Asking for an investigation as to why the numbers of votes cast and voting age population do not jive?
Of course it fails -- on appeal.

What Fani and her Boo have -- under the direction of former White House counsel Jeff DeSantis -- is designed to create a multi-count indictment hanging over President Trump, a mugshot, a drain of financial resources, and punishment by the corrupt legal system for anyone who dared to challenge their election fraud.

Additional goals include a six-week show trial with Trump stuck in Atlanta instead of campaigning and a partisan jury's guilty conviction that allows MSNBC and CNN pundits to claim Trump shouldn't be on house arrest in Mar-a-Lago but should instead be locked up in Fulton Co. Jail on Election Night.

In exchange for this, Fani has been promised the moon -- governor of Georgia? U.S. Senator? White House appointment?

In reality, it would take five minutes for a competent Constitutional lawyer to shred this indictment under the First Amendment's guarantee of the right to petition the government for a redress of grievances. But that won't/wouldn't happen until mid-2025.
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Im Gipper said:

She will just claim that she can't testify about an ongoing investigation.

Nothing will come up from the Jordan sideshow.


Fani should be disqualified in this case should be dismissed!!! Congress is trying to get in on the action, but they will embarrass themselves as
The Congressional inquiry is into the misuse of federal funds provided for anti-gang prosecution that Fani used as her personal slush fund.

It's not related to the Trump case.
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Of course it fails -- on appeal.
And McAfee has said he'll allow for immediate appeal. Meaning the case will not be tried before the election, if ever. After the election there is no point, not a pardon issue, a POTUS issue. Civil case? Yeah POTUS can be called for a deposition but even that would be fraught with massive potholes for the plaintiff.

Criminal state case against a sitting POTUS? Much different question.
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Reality Check said:

jt2hunt said:

This thread is insanely silent from all the Trump haters.
Checkout the U. of Texas fan site. (Or don't.) It's absolutely toxic with TDS..
Yeah...when the last one got shut down, it appears only the hard core lefties and a VERY small handful of conservatives made it over to the latest iteration.

I made a couple posts over there a few years back and got neg repped into purgatory (literally).

I only post on the food and travel board now.

Heck, we had a poster here, clob94 that PLAYED for tu back in the 90s and he stopped posting on that board for the same reason...
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Fani stays as long as she replaces Wade

That's a coward ruling

He says there's a conflict but doesn't go all the way
“Never argue with stupid people, they will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience" - Mark Twain
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once again all the Trump fans who spent weeks proclaiming Willis would be gone and the case would collapse.

proven wrong once again.
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LMCane said:

once again all the Trump fans who spent weeks proclaiming Willis would be gone and the case would collapse.

proven wrong once again.


I am far from a Trump fan, but I will vote for him in November, but she should have been removed…sorry you can't see that, but your hate for Trump is showing once again.
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Lying to the court is fine as long as you're a democrat.
“Never argue with stupid people, they will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience" - Mark Twain
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If the certificate of appeal is allowed to go forward immediately, then the judge has opened the door and opened it widely for an appellate court to boot her.

Can't say one stays but one goes with a straight face.
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Foreverconservative said:

Fani stays as long as she replaces Wade

That's a coward ruling

He says there's a conflict but doesn't go all the way
Does that mean she just has to appoint a new special prosecutor and we start back up right where we are or does it mean that we go back to the beginning with a new special prosecutor since the current proceedings have been tainted?
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Here's the actual ruling


https://static.foxnews.com/foxnews.com/content/uploads/2024/03/2024.03.15-Order-on-Motion-to-Disqualify.pdf
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LMCane said:

once again all the Trump fans who spent weeks proclaiming Willis would be gone and the case would collapse.

proven wrong once again.
That's what you get out of all this?

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LMCane said:

once again all the Trump fans who spent weeks proclaiming Willis would be gone and the case would collapse.

proven wrong once again.

This is like a pill for your TDS isn't it.
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Tony Franklins Other Shoe said:

LMCane said:

once again all the Trump fans who spent weeks proclaiming Willis would be gone and the case would collapse.

proven wrong once again.
That's what you get out of all this?

You seem surprised that he would say something like that.
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Whoever goes wouldn't have to be replaced, there are other attorneys including other special prosecutors on the case already. But I would assume they would add someone to help re-staff it. And continue along from where we are.
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LMCane said:

once again all the Trump fans who spent weeks proclaiming Willis would be gone and the case would collapse.

proven wrong once again.
Dude, I can't stand Trump and have taken a load of **** about not voting for him on here...

But even I know that this ruling is complete bull*****

Call balls and strikes with your TDS glasses off...
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Wow, can't say I'm surprised.

White liberal **** male judge.

Fani should be in prison.

Ridiculous.
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TXAggie2011 said:

Ag with kids said:

Foreverconservative said:

Fani stays as long as she replaces Wade

That's a coward ruling

He says there's a conflict but doesn't go all the way
Does that mean she just has to appoint a new special prosecutor and we start back up right where we are or does it mean that we go back to the beginning with a new special prosecutor since the current proceedings have been tainted?


Whoever goes wouldn't have to be replaced, there are other attorneys including other special prosecutors on the case already. But I would assume they would add someone to help re-staff it. And continue along from where we are.
So...what was Wade's role again in the prosecution? I've lost track.

Is he in charge of this case? Or is Willis?
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Foreverconservative said:

Lying to the court is fine as long as you're a democrat.


That is the literal meaning of the ruling.
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Also, law signed yesterday by Georgia governor empowers Senate committee to remove D.A. So that's on the table now.

Bottom line, this case is going nowhere fast. No way it's tried before Election Day.
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So Wade gets to keep all his money and head to the bank, no problem. Smiling all the way.
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Ag with kids said:

TXAggie2011 said:

Ag with kids said:

Foreverconservative said:

Fani stays as long as she replaces Wade

That's a coward ruling

He says there's a conflict but doesn't go all the way
Does that mean she just has to appoint a new special prosecutor and we start back up right where we are or does it mean that we go back to the beginning with a new special prosecutor since the current proceedings have been tainted?


Whoever goes wouldn't have to be replaced, there are other attorneys including other special prosecutors on the case already. But I would assume they would add someone to help re-staff it. And continue along from where we are.
So...what was Wade's role again in the prosecution? I've lost track.

Is he in charge of this case? Or is Willis?


Willis and her office are "in charge."

Wade is just an outside hire brought in to assist. While that could mean he's been the "manager" or "coordinator" on the case, or doing the most work, that's really just an internal decision of how to manage and staff the case.
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sounds like dumb ruling. No time to read it, maybe over the weekend.
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Rockdoc said:

So Wade gets to keep all his money and head to the bank, no problem. Smiling all the way.
Don't forget his cash also.

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