Thats your defense, he asked them to be peaceful?
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Carolin_Gallego said:
He did say that, and yet, as the violence was underway, President Trump ignored multiple pleas for assistance, failed to take immediate action to stop the violence, failed to instruct his supporters to leave the Capitol, and he also targeted the U.S. Vice President when he knew (testimony confirms) people in the Capitol were threatening his life. It's quite the contradiction.
And that's why 2 days before he asked Nancy to bring in soldiers. Yeah right. You make soooo much sense
Many of the same that were involved in impeachment #2.Quote:
Think about the panel charged with exploring this farce.
Would you like me to link the evidence and testimony or illogically dismiss it out of hand?Tramp96 said:Carolin_Gallego said:
He did say that, and yet, as the violence was underway, President Trump ignored multiple pleas for assistance, failed to take immediate action to stop the violence, failed to instruct his supporters to leave the Capitol, and he also targeted the U.S. Vice President when he knew (testimony confirms) people in the Capitol were threatening his life.
You actually typed that crap with a straight face?
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Proven lie. Nancy is not responsible for security and Congressional investigation proved she was not involved any of the security decisions.Rockdoc said:Carolin_Gallego said:
He did say that, and yet, as the violence was underway, President Trump ignored multiple pleas for assistance, failed to take immediate action to stop the violence, failed to instruct his supporters to leave the Capitol, and he also targeted the U.S. Vice President when he knew (testimony confirms) people in the Capitol were threatening his life. It's quite the contradiction.
And that's why 2 days before he asked Nancy to bring in soldiers. Yeah right. You make soooo much sense
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This is getting boring. Why don't you just rip off the bandaid and tell us how you think this will all end. I'm sure it will be exciting
1. Trump offered National Guard prior to Jan. 6th. Someone declined it (Capitol police, Sgt @ Arms, Pelosi?)Carolin_Gallego said:Would you like me to link the evidence and testimony or illogically dismiss it out of hand?Tramp96 said:Carolin_Gallego said:
He did say that, and yet, as the violence was underway, President Trump ignored multiple pleas for assistance, failed to take immediate action to stop the violence, failed to instruct his supporters to leave the Capitol, and he also targeted the U.S. Vice President when he knew (testimony confirms) people in the Capitol were threatening his life.
You actually typed that crap with a straight face?
2. Trump DID come out of the White House during it and on national TV told the protestors to stop and leave the Capitol.
https://www.c-span.org/video/?507774-1/president-trump-claims-election-stolen-tells-protesters-leave-capitolQuote:
President Trump Video Statement on Capitol Protesters
In a video released by the White House, President Trump addressed protesters who breached the U.S. Capitol, saying "we had an election that was stolen from us." He then went on to tell protesters "you have to go home now." In the statement filmed in the White House Rose Garden, the president called the 2020 presidential election "fraudulent" but encouraged people to respect law and order.
3. What did you want Trump to do? You are up in arms (excuse the pun) that he wanted to go to the Capitol, and yet, you are up-in-arms that he did nothing to stop it. Which is it?
4. What exactly could Trump have done to stop it, for that matter?
With Trump in a suit that matches his face and President Desantis in 2025.
Malibu2 said:
With Trump in a suit that matches his face and President Desantis in 2025.
And you'll leave if that doesn't happen?
Kind of wild to watch Carolin experience TDS fantasy in real life. And we all get to watch it.
Now tuning into this thread just to watch the train wreck.
Now tuning into this thread just to watch the train wreck.
LeaveTexAgs, the Country, my wife? You asked how I think this will end amd I gave you my response. If Im wrong Im wrong.Rockdoc said:Malibu2 said:
With Trump in a suit that matches his face and President Desantis in 2025.
And you'll leave if that doesn't happen?
Good Poster said:BREAKING: Former White House lawyer Eric Herschmann says that it is not true that Cassidy Hutchinson wrote the handwritten note that she testified on Tuesday that she wrote. He says it's not true because he was the one who wrote the note. https://t.co/jBBtnOwzTn
— Ryan Saavedra (@RealSaavedra) June 29, 2022
Another lie. That should just about do it for her credibility
Carolin_Gallego said:
He did say that, and yet, as the violence was underway, President Trump ignored multiple pleas for assistance, failed to take immediate action to stop the violence, failed to instruct his supporters to leave the Capitol, and he also targeted the U.S. Vice President when he knew (testimony confirms) people in the Capitol were threatening his life. It's quite the contradiction.
Who did he tell to kill or hurt Pence? And just being mad at him does not count. Who did he actually instruct to hurt Pence?
And he did tell people to go home. I'm pretty sure it was on a twitter video that day.
Malibu2 said:LeaveTexAgs, the Country, my wife? You asked how I think this will end amd I gave you my response. If Im wrong Im wrong.Rockdoc said:Malibu2 said:
With Trump in a suit that matches his face and President Desantis in 2025.
And you'll leave if that doesn't happen?
Well I didn't ask you, but yeah you can leave Texags if it doesn't happen.
What a bizarre ask.
Malibu2 said:
What a bizarre ask.
So that's your answer? That's fine. Carolin didn't answer either.
My answer is no, Im not going to stop posting if my prediction is incorrect, and that your insistence that this is something I should sincerely consider is weird.Rockdoc said:Malibu2 said:
What a bizarre ask.
So that's your answer? That's fine. Carolin didn't answer either.
You really think they got Trump this time? LOL. What color is the sky where you live?Malibu2 said:
With Trump in a suit that matches his face and President Desantis in 2025.
Malibu2 said:
Thats your defense, he asked them to be peaceful?
Maybe the need to get nancy p on the stand and ask her why she didn't beef up security after she heard there was to be a riot. Looked like most security were acting more like tour guides to the "rioters", except for the one shooting an unarmed woman.
Malibu2 said:My answer is no, Im not going to stop posting if my prediction is incorrect, and that your insistence that this is something I should sincerely consider is weird.Rockdoc said:Malibu2 said:
What a bizarre ask.
So that's your answer? That's fine. Carolin didn't answer either.
If you'll go back and look, the question was originally asked to carolin, not you chief.
Yes, I think we have a pretty conclusive case of Trump conspiring to prevent Congress from certifying Biden as the winner.
Carolin_Gallego said:Proven lie. Nancy is not responsible for security and Congressional investigation proved she was not involved any of the security decisions.Rockdoc said:Carolin_Gallego said:
He did say that, and yet, as the violence was underway, President Trump ignored multiple pleas for assistance, failed to take immediate action to stop the violence, failed to instruct his supporters to leave the Capitol, and he also targeted the U.S. Vice President when he knew (testimony confirms) people in the Capitol were threatening his life. It's quite the contradiction.
And that's why 2 days before he asked Nancy to bring in soldiers. Yeah right. You make soooo much sense
Actually, the buck did stop with Nancy. First the Capitol Police refused the offer, but then changed their mind and requested permission to accept the offer of NG troops. Then the House and Senate Sgt@Arms refused the Capitol Police request.
The House Sgt@Arms reports directly to Pelosi. So yes, she shoulders some of the blame.
https://mynbc15.com/news/nation-world/trump-admin-was-ready-to-deploy-national-guard-on-jan-6-capitol-police-timeline-shows-january-donald
Tramp96 said:1. Trump offered National Guard prior to Jan. 6th. Someone declined it (Capitol police, Sgt @ Arms, Pelosi?) Agree.Carolin_Gallego said:Would you like me to link the evidence and testimony or illogically dismiss it out of hand?Tramp96 said:Carolin_Gallego said:
He did say that, and yet, as the violence was underway, President Trump ignored multiple pleas for assistance, failed to take immediate action to stop the violence, failed to instruct his supporters to leave the Capitol, and he also targeted the U.S. Vice President when he knew (testimony confirms) people in the Capitol were threatening his life.
You actually typed that crap with a straight face?
2. Trump DID come out of the White House during it and on national TV told the protestors to stop and leave the Capitol. He sent a tweet before that with the same sentiment, but that was 4 hours after he knew it had turned violent. He sent his tweet targeting Pence about an hour after he knew people were storming the Capitol. When his plan had failed, he called it off.https://www.c-span.org/video/?507774-1/president-trump-claims-election-stolen-tells-protesters-leave-capitolQuote:
President Trump Video Statement on Capitol Protesters
In a video released by the White House, President Trump addressed protesters who breached the U.S. Capitol, saying "we had an election that was stolen from us." He then went on to tell protesters "you have to go home now." In the statement filmed in the White House Rose Garden, the president called the 2020 presidential election "fraudulent" but encouraged people to respect law and order.
3. What did you want Trump to do? You are up in arms (excuse the pun) that he wanted to go to the Capitol, and yet, you are up-in-arms that he did nothing to stop it. Which is it? He should have never sent people to the Capitol, especially knowing they were armed.
4. What exactly could Trump have done to stop it, for that matter? Don't know and it doesn't really matter. He tried to obstruct the peaceful transfer of power, not only with his protestors, but in multiple other ways, like his fake electors scheme. It's a unique and horrible part of our history.
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Malibu2 said:
What a bizarre ask.
Bizarre is to continue to support the lie of January 6 when you have been given enough truth to understand this is a kangaroo trial run by the same party that ran the fake impeachments of President Trump.
https://justthenews.com/government/congress/trump-pentagon-first-offered-national-guard-capitol-four-days-jan-6-riots-memoCarolin_Gallego said:Proven lie. Nancy is not responsible for security and Congressional investigation proved she was not involved any of the security decisions.Rockdoc said:Carolin_Gallego said:
He did say that, and yet, as the violence was underway, President Trump ignored multiple pleas for assistance, failed to take immediate action to stop the violence, failed to instruct his supporters to leave the Capitol, and he also targeted the U.S. Vice President when he knew (testimony confirms) people in the Capitol were threatening his life. It's quite the contradiction.
And that's why 2 days before he asked Nancy to bring in soldiers. Yeah right. You make soooo much sense
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An official timeline of the Jan. 6 tragedy assembled by Capitol Police shows that a Defense Department official reached out to a Capitol Police deputy chief, Sean Gallagher, on Jan. 2, 2021 to see if a request for troops was forthcoming, but the offer was quickly rejected after a consultation with then-Chief Steve Sund.
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On Sunday, Jan. 3, 2021, just hours after Gallagher rejected the Pentagon's initial offer, the Capitol Police issued a new and darker security assessment to its commanders and executives and to the two political appointees in Congress responsible for security, the House and Senate sergeants at arms, the timeline shows.
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Within 24 hours, Sund had changed his mind and began seeking permission from the political powers surrounding House Speaker Nancy Pelosi and Senate Democratic Leader Chuck Schumer to deploy the National Guard as a preventive measure on Monday, Jan. 4, 2021.
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"We went to the Capitol Police and the Secret Service and law enforcement agencies and Mayor Bowser days before January 6, and asked them, 'Do you want thousands of National Guardsmen and women for January 6?'" Patel said in a detailed interview earlier this year. "They all said no. Why did we do that? The law requires them to request it before we can deploy them. And the DOD IG found we did not delay, we actually prepared in a preemptive fashion, which is what we do at DOD."
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"The Capitol Police timeline shows what we have been saying for the last year that DOD support via the National Guard was refused by the House and Senate sergeant at arms, who report to Pelosi," Patel said. "Now we have it in their own writing, days before Jan. 6. And despite the FBI warning of potential for serious disturbance, no perimeter was established, no agents put on the street, and no fence put up."
Can we all just admit that this has been a Democrat infomercial that the mainstream media has been promoting for free? The same people that believe this crap are the intellectual equivalents to those who would willingly purchase a Shamwow. In fact, that seems like the perfect name for it, the Shamwow Hearings.
So the argument implies Pelosi was in on Trump's plot on January 6th to disrupt the certification of the election for Joe Biden. This is a very silly argument.
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No, more like anything Trump would ask or say automatically would be denied by Pelosi out of spite. She is that dumb and vengeful.Carolin_Gallego said:
So the argument implies Pelosi was in on Trump's plot on January 6th to disrupt the certification of the election for Joe Biden. This is a very silly argument.
Again. Occam's Razor. What would she gain?
Far more likely she intentionally withheld support necessary to quell any out of control crowds.
And here we are with this dog and pony show. Perhaps she got what she wanted?
Far more likely she intentionally withheld support necessary to quell any out of control crowds.
And here we are with this dog and pony show. Perhaps she got what she wanted?
Phatbob said:
Can we all just admit that this has been a Democrat infomercial that the mainstream media has been promoting for free? The same people that believe this crap are the intellectual equivalents to those who would willingly purchase a Shamwow. In fact, that seems like the perfect name for it, the Shamwow Hearings.
I wonder if they're selling t-shirts and coffee mugs?
Why? She didn't want Joe Biden to become President? So silly.
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Okay. Doesn't excuse Trump's actions in any way.
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Carolin_Gallego said:
Why? She didn't want Joe Biden to become President? So silly.
So you denying Trump asked Pelosi to call in national guard troops?
Carolin_Gallego said:
Why? She didn't want Joe Biden to become President? So silly.
Biden was already declared the winner.
The event has allowed the Democrats to bang their Orange Man Bad drum non stop. Now they have a prime time TV show devoted to it.
Did she/Democrats have anything to gain by what happened on January 6? Yes or no. Have they tried to use that day as a political sledgehammer when the general public wants them to address actual problems they face today? Yes or no?