*****Official Jan 6th Committee Hearing Thread*****

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In reply to Some Junkie Cosmonaut • 10:31a, 6/29/22
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Holy ***** This testimony is absolutely damning for Trump and his staff.

Except it was all a lie.
Except the person that says its a lie has said other people have lied and he has not testified under oath, yet. Good chance he'll take the 5th.




Much better chance he won't be invited to testify under oath. He was already interviewed by the committee. Why do you think they didn't bring back the person who was witness to the alleged event but instead put a secondhand person who claims a message was relayed to her instead?


For the life of me I cannot understand why anyone still engages keith.

Also not sure how an obviously mentally unstable troll that has been repeatedly permabanned gets to keep posting here but we're not permitted to question that...


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In reply to 1872walker • 10:32a, 6/29/22
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Fair enough...but you're basically debating a bot.
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In reply to Carolin_Gallego • 10:48a, 6/29/22
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In reply to 1872walker • 10:49a, 6/29/22
1872walker said:
Carolin_Gallego said:
FriscoKid said:
Pylon Cam said:
Holy ***** This testimony is absolutely damning for Trump and his staff.

Except it was all a lie.
Except the person that says its a lie has said other people have lied and he has not testified under oath, yet. Good chance he'll take the 5th.




Much better chance he won't be invited to testify under oath. He was already interviewed by the committee. Why do you think they didn't bring back the person who was witness to the alleged event but instead put a secondhand person who claims a message was relayed to her instead?
1. A reasonable concern about seriously harming the Secret Service's mission with an erosion of trust between public figures and their assigned agents if it become regular practice that agents are called to testify. The Star investigation was able to overcome "executive protection privilege" arguments and this case may be able to as well with Ornato's public denial of multiple events testified by at least two different people.

2. The committee may believe that Anthony Ornato was complicit in one of Trumps schemes, specifically, trying to move the Vice President out of the Capitol so he could not count certified electoral votes. A well defined case will make it much harder for him to deny with credibility.

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[url=https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2021/07/15/jan-6-i-alone-can-fix-it-book-excerpt/]Around this time, [Pence's national security advisor Keith] Kellogg ran into Tony Ornato in the West Wing. Ornato, who oversaw Secret Service movements, told him that Pence's detail was planning to move the vice president to Joint Base Andrews. "You can't do that, Tony," Kellogg said. "Leave him where he's at. He's got a job to do. I know you guys too well. You'll fly him to Alaska if you have a chance. Don't do it."[/url]
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In reply to Carolin_Gallego • 10:51a, 6/29/22
Or it could be Occam's Razor

Had these been a true bipartisan committee, with the ability for each side to call witnesses and cross examine, more possibilities would be open to consideration.

But as this is a scripted one-sided witch hunt that has paid a TV production company to put lipstick on this pig, it's far more likely that it's just another attempt to reach a pre-determined end while tossing aside any semblance of impartiality.
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In reply to Some Junkie Cosmonaut • 10:58a, 6/29/22
Some Junkie Cosmonaut said:
Fair enough...but you're basically debating a bot.


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In reply to Carolin_Gallego • 11:07a, 6/29/22
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Carolin_Gallego said:
IMHO, it takes a extreme amount of willed ignorance to ignore the testimony of Trump's Attorney General, his Chief of Staff's personal assistant and the Vice President's personal lawyer.

So when will he prosecuted? Seems like an open and shut case. Right?
"I'm sure that won't make a bit of difference for those of you who enjoy a baseless rage over the decisions of a few teenagers."
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In reply to Carolin_Gallego • 11:07a, 6/29/22
I'll pay attention as soon as it's a fair hearing. Until then, I don't trust a bit of this.
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In reply to 1872walker • 11:10a, 6/29/22
Not trusting video testimony because it was obtained by the committee's investigation is illogical and quite silly to me.

eta: Excuse me, you said you would not pay attention to the testimony. My bad.
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In reply to Carolin_Gallego • 11:11a, 6/29/22
If you were accused of a crime and this was your trial, would you feel the process was fair?
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In reply to 1872walker • 11:12a, 6/29/22
It's not a trial.
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In reply to Carolin_Gallego • 11:14a, 6/29/22
Exactly!

And there should be no perception of impartiality, fairness or interest in any unbiased outcome.
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In reply to Carolin_Gallego • 11:14a, 6/29/22
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True, It's a farce.
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In reply to Carolin_Gallego • 11:14a, 6/29/22
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Carolin_Gallego said:
It's not a trial.

So when does the trial start?
"I'm sure that won't make a bit of difference for those of you who enjoy a baseless rage over the decisions of a few teenagers."
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In reply to 1872walker • 11:15a, 6/29/22
You can review their evidence and come to your own conclusion. But you said you would not review the evidence.
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In reply to Carolin_Gallego • 11:16a, 6/29/22
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Carolin_Gallego said:
It's not a trial.
Correct. It is:

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In reply to 1872walker • 11:17a, 6/29/22
1872walker said:
I'll pay attention as soon as it's a fair hearing. Until then, I don't trust a bit of this.
This, but also if someone could articulate what the point of this hearing is supposed to be.

And why are they only looking at the riot on the capitol on Jan. 6th. Shouldn't a hearing like this look at all the protests that have invaded the capitol building in the past few years? Shouldn't those also be reviewed?
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In reply to Carolin_Gallego • 11:17a, 6/29/22
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Carolin_Gallego said:
You can review their evidence and come to your own conclusion. But you said you would not review the evidence.

There is no evidence.
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11:18a, 6/29/22
There is a lot of evidence and most of it is testimony from Republicans in Trump's administration and campaign.
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In reply to Carolin_Gallego • 11:20a, 6/29/22
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Carolin_Gallego said:
There is a lot of evidence and most of it is testimony from Republicans in Trump's administration and campaign.

Do you have a numbered list of the items placed into evidence?
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In reply to Carolin_Gallego • 11:20a, 6/29/22
You yourself said it's not a trial. If it's not a trial, it's not evidence.
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11:20a, 6/29/22
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These committee hearings are beyond ridiculous

Those conducting them are beyond ridiculous

Those believing they are uncovering some big conspiracy are….
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In reply to MouthBQ98 • 11:21a, 6/29/22
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MouthBQ98 said:
These committee hearings are beyond ridiculous

Those conducting them are beyond ridiculous

Those believing they are uncovering some big conspiracy are…keef.

FIFY
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In reply to 1872walker • 11:22a, 6/29/22
1872walker said:
You yourself said it's not a trial. If it's not a trial, it's not evidence.


A ridiculous argument.

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/evidence
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In reply to Carolin_Gallego • 11:23a, 6/29/22
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Carolin_Gallego said:
There is a lot of evidence and most of it is testimony from Republicans in Trump's administration and campaign.
If the evidence is overwhelming, then a trial should be imminent. Open and shut case. Are we talking next week, next month, or next year? When do they get him?
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In reply to Carolin_Gallego • 11:24a, 6/29/22
Keep putting the blue parachutes on your posts. Eventually people will come around to your crazytown
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In reply to Gigem314 • 11:25a, 6/29/22
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Gigem314 said:
Carolin_Gallego said:
There is a lot of evidence and most of it is testimony from Republicans in Trump's administration and campaign.
If the evidence is overwhelming, then a trial should be imminent. Open and shut case. Are we talking next week, next month, or next year? When do they get him?

He doesn't seem to be able to answer those questions.
"I'm sure that won't make a bit of difference for those of you who enjoy a baseless rage over the decisions of a few teenagers."
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In reply to 1872walker • 11:25a, 6/29/22
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1872walker said:
Keep putting the blue parachutes on your posts. Eventually people will come around to your crazytown

He started the thread. He feels he has to keep posting no matter how it makes him look.
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In reply to Carolin_Gallego • 11:26a, 6/29/22
These ****ers just burned a day promotion heresay like it was a slam dunk. All while hand picking members adversarial to the accused. (On which note - what's the actual criminal code(s) being alleged to have been violated?)

The only evidence that is clear at this point is that the Ringmasters are Unamerican.
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In reply to Get Off My Lawn • 11:29a, 6/29/22
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These ****ers just burned a day promotion heresay like it was a slam dunk. All while hand picking members adversarial to the accused. (On which note - what's the actual criminal code(s) being alleged to have been violated?)

The only evidence that is clear at this point is that the Ringmasters are Unamerican.
It's amazing that Meadow's personal secretary would be the adversary of the accused, wouldn't you say?

eta: A little background info on her.
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While in college Hutchinson interned for Republican Senator Ted Cruz and Republican US House of Representatives whip Steve Scalise.[11][12][13] In the summer of 2018, she served as an intern and later an employee in the White House Office of Legislative Affairs.[11]

In March 2020 when Mark Meadows became Trump's fourth chief of staff, he plucked her from Legislative Affairs to serve as one of his aides, which she did through the end of the Trump presidency. She was described as a close confidante of Meadows.[14] Identified as a "White House legislative aide," Hutchinson was the subject of a nationally-syndicated AP photograph in which she was shown dancing to the song "Y.M.C.A." alongside White House press secretary Kayleigh McEnany at the end of Trump's 21 September 2020 campaign rally in Swanton, Ohio.[15]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cassidy_Hutchinson
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11:31a, 6/29/22
Keef, you blindly bought into hoax after hoax after hoax...even as we assured you that it was all BS. But THIS TIME surely you've "got him". LOL never give up!

Didn't you also blindly believe Jussie? Or was that another insufferable and gullible CM?
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In reply to Carolin_Gallego • 11:32a, 6/29/22
Carolin_Gallego said:
Get Off My Lawn said:
These ****ers just burned a day promotion heresay like it was a slam dunk. All while hand picking members adversarial to the accused. (On which note - what's the actual criminal code(s) being alleged to have been violated?)

The only evidence that is clear at this point is that the Ringmasters are Unamerican.
It's amazing that Meadow's personal secretary would be the adversary of the accused, wouldn't you say?

eta: A little background info on her.
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While in college Hutchinson interned for Republican Senator Ted Cruz and Republican US House of Representatives whip Steve Scalise.[11][12][13] In the summer of 2018, she served as an intern and later an employee in the White House Office of Legislative Affairs.[11]

In March 2020 when Mark Meadows became Trump's fourth chief of staff, he plucked her from Legislative Affairs to serve as one of his aides, which she did through the end of the Trump presidency. She was described as a close confidante of Meadows.[14] Identified as a "White House legislative aide," Hutchinson was the subject of a nationally-syndicated AP photograph in which she was shown dancing to the song "Y.M.C.A." alongside White House press secretary Kayleigh McEnany at the end of Trump's 21 September 2020 campaign rally in Swanton, Ohio.[15]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cassidy_Hutchinson
She's a jilted lover. Nothing more.

She didn't get a job after the administration ended and this is her revenge.
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11:34a, 6/29/22
The name-calling technique making false associations are childish. The propagandist who uses this technique hopes that the audience will reject a person and their argument on this false basis.
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In reply to Carolin_Gallego • 11:35a, 6/29/22
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Carolin_Gallego said:
It's not a trial.


It is not a legal trial. It is a show trial for the court of public opinion, and it is done at taxpayer expense. Truly shameful waste.
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In reply to Carolin_Gallego • 11:37a, 6/29/22
Carolin_Gallego said:
The name-calling technique making false associations are childish. The propagandist who uses this technique hopes that the audience will reject a person and their argument on this false basis.
You are putting WAY too much credence on the false testimony of a person who didn't get a job from Trump or Meadows after the term.

It's obvious to anyone with half a brain what her motivation is.

It's also a fact that all of her testimony yesterday was debunked by the actual Secret Service within hours.

Not sure what your point here is.
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