Probably forced out. Several in that leadership team were.aggiehawg said:I noted that as well. He left in 2019. Did he resign, or was he forced out to take a smaller golden parachute? Or just fired?CanyonAg77 said:aggiehawg said:Former 4th Circuit Judge and was a respected conservative jurist. He retired from the bench in 2006 to go be the General Counsel for Boeing and make big bucks. Left Boeing in 2019.K2-HMFIC said:aggiehawg said:He's been on the short list for SCOTUS for the GOP going back to W.captkirk said:Why should we care about this guy's opinion?aggiehawg said:Judge Luttig believes former Pres. Trump and his supporters "are a clear and present danger to American democracy," saying he worries they will "succeed in 2024 where they failed in 2020."
— ABC News (@ABC) June 16, 2022
"I don't speak those words lightly."
More: https://t.co/uStgMcKNft pic.twitter.com/UEUNmhZGSd
So you're saying he's a Conservative legal scholar?
So yes, he used to have a good reputation but has been out of view until he resurfaced with Pence's team.
He was working for Boeing during the Max8 debacle, if that tells you anything
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aggiehawg said:I noted that as well. He left in 2019. Did he resign, or was he forced out to take a smaller golden parachute? Or just fired?CanyonAg77 said:aggiehawg said:Former 4th Circuit Judge and was a respected conservative jurist. He retired from the bench in 2006 to go be the General Counsel for Boeing and make big bucks. Left Boeing in 2019.K2-HMFIC said:aggiehawg said:He's been on the short list for SCOTUS for the GOP going back to W.captkirk said:Why should we care about this guy's opinion?aggiehawg said:Judge Luttig believes former Pres. Trump and his supporters "are a clear and present danger to American democracy," saying he worries they will "succeed in 2024 where they failed in 2020."
— ABC News (@ABC) June 16, 2022
"I don't speak those words lightly."
More: https://t.co/uStgMcKNft pic.twitter.com/UEUNmhZGSd
So you're saying he's a Conservative legal scholar?
So yes, he used to have a good reputation but has been out of view until he resurfaced with Pence's team.
He was working for Boeing during the Max8 debacle, if that tells you anything
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J. Michael Luttig, 65, who served as counselor and senior adviser to CEO Dennis Muilenburg before the latter was fired Monday by Boeing's board of directors, will retire, the company said Thursday. A former federal appeals court judge, Luttig also served as special adviser for the board, and Boeing said he informed the directors of his "long-considered retirement" effective the end of the year.
Interim CEO Greg Smith said Boeing is grateful to Luttig for his 14 years of work, "especially through this past challenging year for our company."
Luttig was named to the newly created position in May, as the Chicago-based company faced an onslaught of lawsuits and a federal criminal investigation arising from the crashes. Until then, Luttig had served as Boeing's general counsel since 2006.
"During his 13 years of service at Boeing, Judge Luttig has built the finest legal team in the world and delivered an unparalleled record of success for the company," Muilenburg said at the time. "Judge Luttig is not only a brilliant legal mind, but also a critical voice on all the important issues and opportunities facing our company."
But Boeing quickly came under sharp criticism for its response to the crashes, underscored by its attempts to place blame on foreign pilots of the Lion Air plane that crashed in October 2018 off Indonesia and the Ethiopian Airlines jet that crashed in that country in March, together killing 346 people. The two disasters led to the worldwide grounding of the plane in March, shortly after the second crash.
Link
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ATLANTA -- January 6, 2021
The Coca-Cola Company today named J. Michael Luttig, former U.S. federal judge
and general counsel for The Boeing Co., to serve as counselor and special
advisor to the company and its board of directors.
Judge Luttig will advise the company and its board of directors on tax
matters, with particular focus on the company's ongoing litigation with the
U.S. Internal Revenue Service. The company intends to vigorously defend its
position and consider all avenues, including appealing any ultimate decision.
He went quietly. Of course Boeing issues that type of letter. If they trashed him, as a former judge, he would sue the hell outta him. That would lead to even more discovery at the upper echelons at Boeing. Such would have been imprudent at that juncture. To coin a phrase.
I went down the 737 Max rabbit hole. Boeing got a sweet settlement for that disaster.
06/21/22 Select Committee Hearing
Tue, 06/21/2022 - 12:00pm central time
390 Cannon House Office Building, Washington, DC 20515
Expected topic: President Trump corruptly pressured state election officials, and state legislators, to change election results.
Tue, 06/21/2022 - 12:00pm central time
390 Cannon House Office Building, Washington, DC 20515
Witnesses for Tuesday's hearing ⤵️
— January 6th Committee (@January6thCmte) June 20, 2022
Panel 1
• Rusty Bowers, Arizona House Speaker
• Brad Raffensperger, Georgia Secretary of State
• Gabriel Sterling, Georgia Secretary of State Chief Operating Officer
Panel 2
• Wandrea ArShaye “Shaye” Moss, former Georgia election worker
Expected topic: President Trump corruptly pressured state election officials, and state legislators, to change election results.
We believe progress is made through MORE discussion, not LESS, and we believe that to be true even if the topics are uncomfortable and we occasionally disagree with one another. - TexAgs
The name-calling technique making false associations is a child's game. The propagandist who uses this technique hopes that the audience will reject a person and their argument on this false basis.
The name-calling technique making false associations is a child's game. The propagandist who uses this technique hopes that the audience will reject a person and their argument on this false basis.
How is this evidence being found and under what pretext are the witnesses testifying? Do the witnesses have any due process rights? Or is this just Congress pushing around its prosecutorial and subpoena powers?
Amazing.Carolin_Gallego said:
06/21/22 Select Committee Hearing
Tue, 06/21/2022 - 12:00pm central time
390 Cannon House Office Building, Washington, DC 20515Witnesses for Tuesday's hearing ⤵️
— January 6th Committee (@January6thCmte) June 20, 2022
Panel 1
• Rusty Bowers, Arizona House Speaker
• Brad Raffensperger, Georgia Secretary of State
• Gabriel Sterling, Georgia Secretary of State Chief Operating Officer
Panel 2
• Wandrea ArShaye “Shaye” Moss, former Georgia election worker
Expected topic: President Trump corruptly pressured state election officials, and state legislators, to change election results.
But we aren't allowed to question the Dems for doing this because tinfoil.
When is thing scheduled to end? Ever?
Wait this thing is still going on? Holy *****
In today's session, they tackle the pressing question of 2022:
"How many angels can dance on the head of a pin?"
Never mind the country is collapsing outside the chamber.
"How many angels can dance on the head of a pin?"
Never mind the country is collapsing outside the chamber.
Carolin_Gallego said:
06/21/22 Select Committee Hearing
Tue, 06/21/2022 - 12:00pm central time
390 Cannon House Office Building, Washington, DC 20515Witnesses for Tuesday's hearing ⤵️
— January 6th Committee (@January6thCmte) June 20, 2022
Panel 1
• Rusty Bowers, Arizona House Speaker
• Brad Raffensperger, Georgia Secretary of State
• Gabriel Sterling, Georgia Secretary of State Chief Operating Officer
Panel 2
• Wandrea ArShaye “Shaye” Moss, former Georgia election worker
Expected topic: President Trump corruptly pressured state election officials, and state legislators, to change election results.
Never interrupt your enemy when they are making a mistake.
Rusty Bowers, eh? Quick wiki search:
Because, of course.
LinkQuote:
Bowers refused to cooperate with the attempts to overturn the 2020 United States presidential election by publicly stating that there was no evidence of election fraud that would mandate rejection of the results of the 2020 United States presidential election in Arizona. Bowers is scheduled to testify to the January 6 commission on June 21, 2022.
Bowers also killed a bill in the Arizona House of Representatives which would have allowed the state legislature to override the results of a presidential election in Arizona.
For his efforts in resisting the attempts to overturn the 2020 election results, Bowers was awarded the John F. Kennedy Profile in Courage Award. He was one of five honorees to receive the award in 2022.
Because, of course.
He is a Mormon much like Romney.aggiehawg said:
Rusty Bowers, eh? Quick wiki search:LinkQuote:
Bowers refused to cooperate with the attempts to overturn the 2020 United States presidential election by publicly stating that there was no evidence of election fraud that would mandate rejection of the results of the 2020 United States presidential election in Arizona. Bowers is scheduled to testify to the January 6 commission on June 21, 2022.
Bowers also killed a bill in the Arizona House of Representatives which would have allowed the state legislature to override the results of a presidential election in Arizona.
For his efforts in resisting the attempts to overturn the 2020 election results, Bowers was awarded the John F. Kennedy Profile in Courage Award. He was one of five honorees to receive the award in 2022.
Because, of course.
He made a fine speech.
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President Kennedy reminds us to govern is to choose - to choose facts over falsehoods, to honor one's oath and the rule of law over the rule of convenience, to respect the people's choice at the ballot box, even or especially when the result may not be according to our own desire. These acts should not be noteworthy, nor should they be praiseworthy. These decisions are the least that the people should expect of those to whom they entrust the power to choose for them.
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Six decades ago in this city, President Kennedy said that the true person of courage is one whom has the courage to stand up; yes, to one's enemies, and the courage to stand up also when necessary to one's associates. And the true person of dedication is one who has an honor mortgaged to no single individual or group and is devoted solely to serving the public good and national interest.
We believe progress is made through MORE discussion, not LESS, and we believe that to be true even if the topics are uncomfortable and we occasionally disagree with one another. - TexAgs
The name-calling technique making false associations is a child's game. The propagandist who uses this technique hopes that the audience will reject a person and their argument on this false basis.
The name-calling technique making false associations is a child's game. The propagandist who uses this technique hopes that the audience will reject a person and their argument on this false basis.
If these corrupt morons succeed, they get to face DeSantis
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Six decades ago in this city,President KennedyTed Sorenson said that the true person of courage
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Profiles_in_Courage
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In his 2008 autobiography, Kennedy speechwriter Ted Sorensen, who was presumed as early as 1957 to be the book's ghostwriter, acknowledged that he "did a first draft of most chapters" and "helped choose the words of many of its sentences".
Not sure you could find more hallow words spoken by most any Congressperson.Quote:
to choose facts over falsehoods, to honor one's oath and the rule of law over the rule of convenience, to respect the people's choice at the ballot box, even or especially when the result may not be according to our own desire.
We do not have statesmen. Our politicians are nothing more than performative finger-pointers, sowing seeds of public division for their own political and economic profit.
33,000 People in Georgia voted R down ballot, but not for Trump.
Revenge of the Concerned Moderates.
Revenge of the Concerned Moderates.
They aren't corrupt. They are right.captkirk said:
If these corrupt morons succeed, they get to face DeSantis
DeSantis will be the next President of the United States.
"I am neither an Athenian nor a Greek, but a citizen of the world"-Plato, attributed to Socrates, Theaetetus-
Neehau said:They aren't corrupt. They are right.captkirk said:
If these corrupt morons succeed, they get to face DeSantis
DeSantis will be the next President of the United States.
Good to see you all in on the dem clown show production. Lol
They have provided overwhelming evidence of Trump's guilt.Rockdoc said:Neehau said:They aren't corrupt. They are right.captkirk said:
If these corrupt morons succeed, they get to face DeSantis
DeSantis will be the next President of the United States.
Good to see you all in on the dem clown show production. Lol
I don't think they should indict Trump, and if they do, I think Biden should pardon him. Country needs to put this nightmare behind us.
"I am neither an Athenian nor a Greek, but a citizen of the world"-Plato, attributed to Socrates, Theaetetus-
His testimony at the hearing today was compelling. Trump's and Eastman's illicit efforts to replace Arizona's electors was very intriguing.aggiehawg said:
Rusty Bowers, eh? Quick wiki search:LinkQuote:
Bowers refused to cooperate with the attempts to overturn the 2020 United States presidential election by publicly stating that there was no evidence of election fraud that would mandate rejection of the results of the 2020 United States presidential election in Arizona. Bowers is scheduled to testify to the January 6 commission on June 21, 2022.
Bowers also killed a bill in the Arizona House of Representatives which would have allowed the state legislature to override the results of a presidential election in Arizona.
For his efforts in resisting the attempts to overturn the 2020 election results, Bowers was awarded the John F. Kennedy Profile in Courage Award. He was one of five honorees to receive the award in 2022.
Because, of course.
Even the White House Counsel’s Office felt the 'fake electors' plan was not legally sound, but President Trump and his allies went forward with the scheme anyway. pic.twitter.com/SFETP6asI4
— January 6th Committee (@January6thCmte) June 21, 2022
We believe progress is made through MORE discussion, not LESS, and we believe that to be true even if the topics are uncomfortable and we occasionally disagree with one another. - TexAgs
The name-calling technique making false associations is a child's game. The propagandist who uses this technique hopes that the audience will reject a person and their argument on this false basis.
The name-calling technique making false associations is a child's game. The propagandist who uses this technique hopes that the audience will reject a person and their argument on this false basis.
Expanding on data from 1/6 hearings about Georgia & PA in 2020:
— Paul Kane (@pkcapitol) June 21, 2022
* GA Rs won more than 2.49 million votes in 14 races for US House; Trump, 2.46 million.
* PA Rs won more than 3.43 million votes in 18 House races; Trump, 3.38 million.
DJT lost because Rs abandoned him.
Neehau said:They have provided overwhelming evidence of Trump's guilt.Rockdoc said:Neehau said:They aren't corrupt. They are right.captkirk said:
If these corrupt morons succeed, they get to face DeSantis
DeSantis will be the next President of the United States.
Good to see you all in on the dem clown show production. Lol
I don't think they should indict Trump, and if they do, I think Biden should pardon him. Country needs to put this nightmare behind us.
Lol overwhelming for libs. Lol
The real question is this: How many Emmys will the Dems win?
Propaganda is not evidence.Neehau said:They have provided overwhelming evidence of Trump's guilt.Rockdoc said:Neehau said:They aren't corrupt. They are right.captkirk said:
If these corrupt morons succeed, they get to face DeSantis
DeSantis will be the next President of the United States.
Good to see you all in on the dem clown show production. Lol
I don't think they should indict Trump, and if they do, I think Biden should pardon him. Country needs to put this nightmare behind us.
Evidence is what is presented at a trial. This spectacle is not a trial.
"Laws that forbid the carrying of arms … disarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes… . Such laws make things worse for the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather to encourage than to prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater confidence than an armed man.”
--Thomas Jefferson
--Thomas Jefferson
Trump got more votes than Obama.K2-HMFIC said:Expanding on data from 1/6 hearings about Georgia & PA in 2020:
— Paul Kane (@pkcapitol) June 21, 2022
* GA Rs won more than 2.49 million votes in 14 races for US House; Trump, 2.46 million.
* PA Rs won more than 3.43 million votes in 18 House races; Trump, 3.38 million.
DJT lost because Rs abandoned him.
"Laws that forbid the carrying of arms … disarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes… . Such laws make things worse for the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather to encourage than to prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater confidence than an armed man.”
--Thomas Jefferson
--Thomas Jefferson
Do you think that Al Gore deserved to go to jail for his illegal meddling of the Florida recount in 2000?Carolin_Gallego said:His testimony at the hearing today was compelling. Trump's and Eastman's illicit efforts to replace Arizona's electors was very intriguing.aggiehawg said:
Rusty Bowers, eh? Quick wiki search:LinkQuote:
Bowers refused to cooperate with the attempts to overturn the 2020 United States presidential election by publicly stating that there was no evidence of election fraud that would mandate rejection of the results of the 2020 United States presidential election in Arizona. Bowers is scheduled to testify to the January 6 commission on June 21, 2022.
Bowers also killed a bill in the Arizona House of Representatives which would have allowed the state legislature to override the results of a presidential election in Arizona.
For his efforts in resisting the attempts to overturn the 2020 election results, Bowers was awarded the John F. Kennedy Profile in Courage Award. He was one of five honorees to receive the award in 2022.
Because, of course.Even the White House Counsel’s Office felt the 'fake electors' plan was not legally sound, but President Trump and his allies went forward with the scheme anyway. pic.twitter.com/SFETP6asI4
— January 6th Committee (@January6thCmte) June 21, 2022
He lost at SCOTUS because the recount was a setup to disenfranchise many Florida voters, and was clearly illegal.
Was that treason? Sedition?
"Laws that forbid the carrying of arms … disarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes… . Such laws make things worse for the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather to encourage than to prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater confidence than an armed man.”
--Thomas Jefferson
--Thomas Jefferson
That's quite the imagination you have there.
The ruling, for your edification.
The ruling, for your edification.
We believe progress is made through MORE discussion, not LESS, and we believe that to be true even if the topics are uncomfortable and we occasionally disagree with one another. - TexAgs
The name-calling technique making false associations is a child's game. The propagandist who uses this technique hopes that the audience will reject a person and their argument on this false basis.
The name-calling technique making false associations is a child's game. The propagandist who uses this technique hopes that the audience will reject a person and their argument on this false basis.
Technically, it was the equal protection argument with varying standards regarding whether or not to count dimpled/hanging chads between counties. Further, whether military ballots would or would not be counted.Quote:
He lost at SCOTUS because the recount was a setup to disenfranchise many Florida voters, and was clearly illegal.
Was that treason? Sedition?
LOL at Tards still pushing the idea of "insurrection".
these hearing are still going on?? do people actually watch it?
In addition, he also appears to believe Gore was in charge of the recount instead of the state of Florida. So many things wrong with his interpretation of events.aggiehawg said:Technically, it was the equal protection argument with varying standards regarding whether or not to count dimpled/hanging chads between counties. Further, whether military ballots would or would not be counted.Quote:
He lost at SCOTUS because the recount was a setup to disenfranchise many Florida voters, and was clearly illegal.
Was that treason? Sedition?
We believe progress is made through MORE discussion, not LESS, and we believe that to be true even if the topics are uncomfortable and we occasionally disagree with one another. - TexAgs
The name-calling technique making false associations is a child's game. The propagandist who uses this technique hopes that the audience will reject a person and their argument on this false basis.
The name-calling technique making false associations is a child's game. The propagandist who uses this technique hopes that the audience will reject a person and their argument on this false basis.
Um,Carolin_Gallego said:
That's quite the imagination you have there.
The ruling, for your edification.
Would you consider "Violating the 14th amendment" to be illegal?
And the disparate treatment of how to handle the recount from county to county absolutely disenfranchised certain voters. In certain counties, more imperfect votes were counted than in others, making the imperfect votes in those counties more important.
So, should Al Gore have gone to jail? Should there have been a criminal investigation into how much the Al Gore campaign supported the disparate treatment per county?
No.
Saying that something was illegal is not the same as saying it was criminal. What Trump tried to pull off with the other electors was clearly illegal, and really, really dumb, but that doesn't make it criminal.
"Laws that forbid the carrying of arms … disarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes… . Such laws make things worse for the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather to encourage than to prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater confidence than an armed man.”
--Thomas Jefferson
--Thomas Jefferson