etxag02 said:

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I didn't equate the two. htfsik how you are doing it.

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Wow this coming from Rachel is interesting. She’s right though… https://t.co/JWOJ0xH9rK

— Kathy (@cal_gal53) June 10, 2022

CM Trump Voter said:

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I guess we believe this guy now?

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Maroon Dawn said:

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TRADUCTOR said:

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Maroon Dawn said:

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Nobody is harassing you

We are asking a question that cuts to the very core of the issue YOU raised

So please answer it

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Maybe a repost of whatever the question is/was would make for more entertainment reading this beat down soap opera.

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I'd love to:

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Is storming the Capital and cornering members of Congress in elevators and bathrooms to threaten them as part of an illegal attempt to try and to stop a legitimate government proceeding an act of sedition when it's purpose is to overthrow the free and fair election of a government official vital to this governments function?

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He's saying he can't answer this question

For some reason

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Watermelon Man said:

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Maroon Dawn said:

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TRADUCTOR said:

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Maroon Dawn said:

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Nobody is harassing you

We are asking a question that cuts to the very core of the issue YOU raised

So please answer it

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Maybe a repost of whatever the question is/was would make for more entertainment reading this beat down soap opera.

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I'd love to:

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Is storming the Capital and cornering members of Congress in elevators and bathrooms to threaten them as part of an illegal attempt to try and to stop a legitimate government proceeding an act of sedition when it's purpose is to overthrow the free and fair election of a government official vital to this governments function?

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He's saying he can't answer this question

For some reason

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Seeing that this is an obvious "GOTCHA!" I don't fault anyone for not answering without knowing what your ulterior motives are. As it has been revealed that you were talking about the Kavanaugh hearings, I'll take the bait.

No, that was not sedition. Sedition is not the act of storming the Capitol (and you are so correct to compare what happened at the Kavanaugh hearings as to the assault made on Jan 6, exactly the same) in an attempt to subvert the US Constitution. Sedition is direct action, either speech or organization, intended to incite rebellion against authority.

It would be pretty easy to show that the Proud Boys and Oath Keepers engaged in sedition against the US Constitution (and by extension, the US Government). In fact, considering the tweets, the comments Loser Donny made during his Jan 6 speech, and his complicity in the organization of the Jan 6 rally, Trump could be shown to be seditious as well. Enough to impeach him. I don't think anybody denies that the reason for the rally was an attempt to stop the counting of the electoral votes.

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Maroon Dawn said:

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Watermelon Man said:

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Maroon Dawn said:

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TRADUCTOR said:

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Maroon Dawn said:

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Nobody is harassing you

We are asking a question that cuts to the very core of the issue YOU raised

So please answer it

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Maybe a repost of whatever the question is/was would make for more entertainment reading this beat down soap opera.

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I'd love to:

Quote:

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Is storming the Capital and cornering members of Congress in elevators and bathrooms to threaten them as part of an illegal attempt to try and to stop a legitimate government proceeding an act of sedition when it's purpose is to overthrow the free and fair election of a government official vital to this governments function?

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He's saying he can't answer this question

For some reason

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Seeing that this is an obvious "GOTCHA!" I don't fault anyone for not answering without knowing what your ulterior motives are. As it has been revealed that you were talking about the Kavanaugh hearings, I'll take the bait.

No, that was not sedition. Sedition is not the act of storming the Capitol (and you are so correct to compare what happened at the Kavanaugh hearings as to the assault made on Jan 6, exactly the same) in an attempt to subvert the US Constitution. Sedition is direct action, either speech or organization, intended to incite rebellion against authority.

It would be pretty easy to show that the Proud Boys and Oath Keepers engaged in sedition against the US Constitution (and by extension, the US Government). In fact, considering the tweets, the comments Loser Donny made during his Jan 6 speech, and his complicity in the organization of the Jan 6 rally, Trump could be shown to be seditious as well. Enough to impeach him. I don't think anybody denies that the reason for the rally was an attempt to stop the counting of the electoral votes.

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So just to clarify

Planning and then Illegally attempting to stop the installation of an elected and vital government official in a process spelled out in the Constitution is NOT sedition when Democrats do it because…reasons?

I mean that sounds like trying to subvert the Constitution to me

Is it Because it's (D)ifferent?

Please explain how it's (D)ifferent since apparently it's sometimes okay to try and subvert authority, the Constitution and the Will of the People when things are (D)ifferent

Be very specific and cite examples please because so far none of you leftys have been willing to explain to us how it's (D)ifferent

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Watermelon Man said:

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Maroon Dawn said:

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Watermelon Man said:

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Maroon Dawn said:

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TRADUCTOR said:

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Maroon Dawn said:

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Nobody is harassing you

We are asking a question that cuts to the very core of the issue YOU raised

So please answer it

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Maybe a repost of whatever the question is/was would make for more entertainment reading this beat down soap opera.

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I'd love to:

Quote:

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Is storming the Capital and cornering members of Congress in elevators and bathrooms to threaten them as part of an illegal attempt to try and to stop a legitimate government proceeding an act of sedition when it's purpose is to overthrow the free and fair election of a government official vital to this governments function?

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He's saying he can't answer this question

For some reason

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Seeing that this is an obvious "GOTCHA!" I don't fault anyone for not answering without knowing what your ulterior motives are. As it has been revealed that you were talking about the Kavanaugh hearings, I'll take the bait.

No, that was not sedition. Sedition is not the act of storming the Capitol (and you are so correct to compare what happened at the Kavanaugh hearings as to the assault made on Jan 6, exactly the same) in an attempt to subvert the US Constitution. Sedition is direct action, either speech or organization, intended to incite rebellion against authority.

It would be pretty easy to show that the Proud Boys and Oath Keepers engaged in sedition against the US Constitution (and by extension, the US Government). In fact, considering the tweets, the comments Loser Donny made during his Jan 6 speech, and his complicity in the organization of the Jan 6 rally, Trump could be shown to be seditious as well. Enough to impeach him. I don't think anybody denies that the reason for the rally was an attempt to stop the counting of the electoral votes.

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So just to clarify

Planning and then Illegally attempting to stop the installation of an elected and vital government official in a process spelled out in the Constitution is NOT sedition when Democrats do it because…reasons?

I mean that sounds like trying to subvert the Constitution to me

Is it Because it's (D)ifferent?

Please explain how it's (D)ifferent since apparently it's sometimes okay to try and subvert authority, the Constitution and the Will of the People when things are (D)ifferent

Be very specific and cite examples please because so far none of you leftys have been willing to explain to us how it's (D)ifferent

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Moving goalposts again.

It's not sedition because it's not sedition. I didn't say it was OK to subvert authority. All I said was subverting authority is not sedition.

Get a dictionary and find out what sedition is before you respond. It will make you look smarter.

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Watermelon Man said:

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Maroon Dawn said:

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Watermelon Man said:

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Maroon Dawn said:

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TRADUCTOR said:

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Maroon Dawn said:

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Nobody is harassing you

We are asking a question that cuts to the very core of the issue YOU raised

So please answer it

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Maybe a repost of whatever the question is/was would make for more entertainment reading this beat down soap opera.

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I'd love to:

Quote:

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Is storming the Capital and cornering members of Congress in elevators and bathrooms to threaten them as part of an illegal attempt to try and to stop a legitimate government proceeding an act of sedition when it's purpose is to overthrow the free and fair election of a government official vital to this governments function?

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He's saying he can't answer this question

For some reason

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Seeing that this is an obvious "GOTCHA!" I don't fault anyone for not answering without knowing what your ulterior motives are. As it has been revealed that you were talking about the Kavanaugh hearings, I'll take the bait.

No, that was not sedition. Sedition is not the act of storming the Capitol (and you are so correct to compare what happened at the Kavanaugh hearings as to the assault made on Jan 6, exactly the same) in an attempt to subvert the US Constitution. Sedition is direct action, either speech or organization, intended to incite rebellion against authority.

It would be pretty easy to show that the Proud Boys and Oath Keepers engaged in sedition against the US Constitution (and by extension, the US Government). In fact, considering the tweets, the comments Loser Donny made during his Jan 6 speech, and his complicity in the organization of the Jan 6 rally, Trump could be shown to be seditious as well. Enough to impeach him. I don't think anybody denies that the reason for the rally was an attempt to stop the counting of the electoral votes.

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So just to clarify

Planning and then Illegally attempting to stop the installation of an elected and vital government official in a process spelled out in the Constitution is NOT sedition when Democrats do it because…reasons?

I mean that sounds like trying to subvert the Constitution to me

Is it Because it's (D)ifferent?

Please explain how it's (D)ifferent since apparently it's sometimes okay to try and subvert authority, the Constitution and the Will of the People when things are (D)ifferent

Be very specific and cite examples please because so far none of you leftys have been willing to explain to us how it's (D)ifferent

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Moving goalposts again.

It's not sedition because it's not sedition. I didn't say it was OK to subvert authority. All I said was subverting authority is not sedition.

Get a dictionary and find out what sedition is before you respond. It will make you look smarter.

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Sedition is direct action, either speech or organization, intended to incite rebellion against authority.

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Ukraine Gas Expert said:

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Hahaha there is no way you know what sedition is if you can go after someone with those statements and ignore everything pelosi, schumer, clinton, antifa, blm, obama, maxine, nadler, pencil neck, fbi, basically every Democrat who voted for impeachment based on fabricated lies (now know to everyone as lies) etc has done for four plus years

What a clown

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Watermelon Man said:

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Ukraine Gas Expert said:

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Hahaha there is no way you know what sedition is if you can go after someone with those statements and ignore everything pelosi, schumer, clinton, antifa, blm, obama, maxine, nadler, pencil neck, fbi, basically every Democrat who voted for impeachment based on fabricated lies (now know to everyone as lies) etc has done for four plus years

What a clown

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Are you trying to claim that failing to support the US Constitution is just fine and dandy if someone else has ever disagreed with your opinions (lies)?

Base you opinions on fact and in their own context. What someone else does does not make the evil you do OK.

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It would be pretty easy to show that the Proud Boys and Oath Keepers engaged in sedition against the US Constitution (and by extension, the US Government). In fact, considering the tweets, the comments Loser Donny made during his Jan 6 speech, and his complicity in the organization of the Jan 6 rally, Trump could be shown to be seditious as well.

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Maroon Dawn said:

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Watermelon Man said:

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Ukraine Gas Expert said:

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Hahaha there is no way you know what sedition is if you can go after someone with those statements and ignore everything pelosi, schumer, clinton, antifa, blm, obama, maxine, nadler, pencil neck, fbi, basically every Democrat who voted for impeachment based on fabricated lies (now know to everyone as lies) etc has done for four plus years

What a clown

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Are you trying to claim that failing to support the US Constitution is just fine and dandy if someone else has ever disagreed with your opinions (lies)?

Base you opinions on fact and in their own context. What someone else does does not make the evil you do OK.

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You're the one claiming the Constitution doesn't matter when Dems try to subvert it

But that's (D)ifferent isn't it?

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Watermelon Man said:

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Maroon Dawn said:

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Watermelon Man said:

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Ukraine Gas Expert said:

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Hahaha there is no way you know what sedition is if you can go after someone with those statements and ignore everything pelosi, schumer, clinton, antifa, blm, obama, maxine, nadler, pencil neck, fbi, basically every Democrat who voted for impeachment based on fabricated lies (now know to everyone as lies) etc has done for four plus years

What a clown

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Are you trying to claim that failing to support the US Constitution is just fine and dandy if someone else has ever disagreed with your opinions (lies)?

Base you opinions on fact and in their own context. What someone else does does not make the evil you do OK.

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You're the one claiming the Constitution doesn't matter when Dems try to subvert it

But that's (D)ifferent isn't it?

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Please show where I claimed the Constitution doesn't matter when Dems try o subvert it.

You can't.

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Sedition is direct action, either speech or organization, intended to incite rebellion against authority.

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CanyonAg77 said:

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It would be pretty easy to show that the Proud Boys and Oath Keepers engaged in sedition against the US Constitution (and by extension, the US Government). In fact, considering the tweets, the comments Loser Donny made during his Jan 6 speech, and his complicity in the organization of the Jan 6 rally, Trump could be shown to be seditious as well.

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So....hundreds of people have been convicted of sedition, I take it?

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Maroon Dawn said:

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Watermelon Man said:

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Maroon Dawn said:

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Watermelon Man said:

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Ukraine Gas Expert said:

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Hahaha there is no way you know what sedition is if you can go after someone with those statements and ignore everything pelosi, schumer, clinton, antifa, blm, obama, maxine, nadler, pencil neck, fbi, basically every Democrat who voted for impeachment based on fabricated lies (now know to everyone as lies) etc has done for four plus years

What a clown

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Are you trying to claim that failing to support the US Constitution is just fine and dandy if someone else has ever disagreed with your opinions (lies)?

Base you opinions on fact and in their own context. What someone else does does not make the evil you do OK.

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You're the one claiming the Constitution doesn't matter when Dems try to subvert it

But that's (D)ifferent isn't it?

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Please show where I claimed the Constitution doesn't matter when Dems try o subvert it.

You can't.

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Your EXACT words

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Sedition is direct action, either speech or organization, intended to incite rebellion against authority.

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By your own definition how does threatening congressmen and illegally attempting to overthrow the legal and constitutional installment of a duly elected and vital government official not meet your own definition

Explain the (D)ifference

You all keep saying it's (D)ifferent but none of you ever will explain HOW it's (D)ifferent

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Watermelon Man said:

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Maroon Dawn said:

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Watermelon Man said:

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Maroon Dawn said:

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Watermelon Man said:

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Ukraine Gas Expert said:

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Hahaha there is no way you know what sedition is if you can go after someone with those statements and ignore everything pelosi, schumer, clinton, antifa, blm, obama, maxine, nadler, pencil neck, fbi, basically every Democrat who voted for impeachment based on fabricated lies (now know to everyone as lies) etc has done for four plus years

What a clown

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Are you trying to claim that failing to support the US Constitution is just fine and dandy if someone else has ever disagreed with your opinions (lies)?

Base you opinions on fact and in their own context. What someone else does does not make the evil you do OK.

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You're the one claiming the Constitution doesn't matter when Dems try to subvert it

But that's (D)ifferent isn't it?

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Please show where I claimed the Constitution doesn't matter when Dems try o subvert it.

You can't.

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Your EXACT words

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Sedition is direct action, either speech or organization, intended to incite rebellion against authority.

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By your own definition how does threatening congressmen and illegally attempting to overthrow the legal and constitutional installment of a duly elected and vital government official not meet your own definition

Explain the (D)ifference

You all keep saying it's (D)ifferent but none of you ever will explain HOW it's (D)ifferent

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Sedition is encouraging or enabling others to rebel.

Like I said, read a book.

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CanyonAg77 said:

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Pretty sure nobody has plead guilty to sedition.

My point was that there were hundreds of people there, on camera, in the Capitol. It's been 18 months. Surely there must be hundreds of convictions by now, if it's such a clear cut case of sedition.

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Maroon Dawn said:

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Watermelon Man said:

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Maroon Dawn said:

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Watermelon Man said:

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Maroon Dawn said:

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Watermelon Man said:

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Ukraine Gas Expert said:

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Hahaha there is no way you know what sedition is if you can go after someone with those statements and ignore everything pelosi, schumer, clinton, antifa, blm, obama, maxine, nadler, pencil neck, fbi, basically every Democrat who voted for impeachment based on fabricated lies (now know to everyone as lies) etc has done for four plus years

What a clown

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Are you trying to claim that failing to support the US Constitution is just fine and dandy if someone else has ever disagreed with your opinions (lies)?

Base you opinions on fact and in their own context. What someone else does does not make the evil you do OK.

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You're the one claiming the Constitution doesn't matter when Dems try to subvert it

But that's (D)ifferent isn't it?

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Please show where I claimed the Constitution doesn't matter when Dems try o subvert it.

You can't.

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Your EXACT words

Quote:

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Sedition is direct action, either speech or organization, intended to incite rebellion against authority.

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By your own definition how does threatening congressmen and illegally attempting to overthrow the legal and constitutional installment of a duly elected and vital government official not meet your own definition

Explain the (D)ifference

You all keep saying it's (D)ifferent but none of you ever will explain HOW it's (D)ifferent

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Sedition is encouraging or enabling others to rebel.

Like I said, read a book.

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But actual actions of rebellion?

How about those? Are those treason instead?

What semantics would you like to make?

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SpreadsheetAg said:

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speck said:

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SpreadsheetAg said:

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They cut that clip early; I'd bet $100 the rioters protected her and helped her get to her feet after they cut away. (I am 90% confident).

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Yeah. They gave her a traumatic brain injury in their rush to hug her and get her to autograph their blue lives matters shirt.

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Well I was right:

IMPORTANT: this is exact moment the siege of the Capitol building began as the two men in front ripped down a preliminary barrier & rushed officers who were behind a 2nd barrier

They then encouraged others to follow their lead. Officers appeared to be taken completely off guard pic.twitter.com/LE0a01PXBi

— No 🍆 Pics Nick! (@ElijahSchaffer) January 6, 2021

Two guys did protect her and made sure she got up okay.

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The @January6thCmte has spent over $2.5 million in taxpayer funds for their "investigation."

Know where that money has gone? Lining the pockets of their staff.

KRISTIN L. AMERLING - $15,666/month
DAVID B. BUCKLEY - $15,666/month
TIMOTHY J. HEAPHY - $15,666.67/month

1/5

— Steven Cheung (@CaliforniaPanda) June 9, 2022

That's just a small part of the list.

Source: https://t.co/m2uDr3yZd1

5/5

— Steven Cheung (@CaliforniaPanda) June 9, 2022

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Alan Dershowitz: It was unethical. Why was it unethical? Take for example President Trump's speech on January 6th. I opposed that speech. I don't think it was done well. I don't think he should have done it. But he said at the end of the speech he wanted people to show their voices patriotically and peacefully. They doctored the tape! They edited those words out. If a prosecutor ever did that they'd be disbarred! You can't present part of the tape and deliberately omit the rest of the tape in order to mislead the audience. Especially when the other side has no opportunity to cross-examine. And has no opportunity to put on its own evidence. There is a special obligation not to cheat! Not to defraud the viewers. That's exactly what they did… And Donald Trump committed no crimes.

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aggiehawg said:

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Alan Dershowitz: It was unethical. Why was it unethical? Take for example President Trump's speech on January 6th. I opposed that speech. I don't think it was done well. I don't think he should have done it. But he said at the end of the speech he wanted people to show their voices patriotically and peacefully. They doctored the tape! They edited those words out. If a prosecutor ever did that they'd be disbarred! You can't present part of the tape and deliberately omit the rest of the tape in order to mislead the audience. Especially when the other side has no opportunity to cross-examine. And has no opportunity to put on its own evidence. There is a special obligation not to cheat! Not to defraud the viewers. That's exactly what they did… And Donald Trump committed no crimes.

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Video at Link

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Carolin_Gallego said:

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Are you going to harass me too if I don't comply with the demand?

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aggiehawg said:

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Alan Dershowitz: It was unethical. Why was it unethical? Take for example President Trump's speech on January 6th. I opposed that speech. I don't think it was done well. I don't think he should have done it. But he said at the end of the speech he wanted people to show their voices patriotically and peacefully. They doctored the tape! They edited those words out. If a prosecutor ever did that they'd be disbarred! You can't present part of the tape and deliberately omit the rest of the tape in order to mislead the audience. Especially when the other side has no opportunity to cross-examine. And has no opportunity to put on its own evidence. There is a special obligation not to cheat! Not to defraud the viewers. That's exactly what they did… And Donald Trump committed no crimes.

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Video at Link

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