This was me after the balcony scene at the end:
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This season has been a strong one for Connor. Loved his line of, "there is only one person in this room that doesn't think I'm a joke, so I'm going to listen to her."
And I think the main difference between Connor and the three main siblings is that Connor realizes people think he is a joke while the other three siblings think the people in the room take them seriously.
And I think the main difference between Connor and the three main siblings is that Connor realizes people think he is a joke while the other three siblings think the people in the room take them seriously.
That was a big moment for Connor, don't think we have seen him so boldly stand up for himself before.Bones08 said:
This season has been a strong one for Connor. Loved his line of, "there is only one person in this room that doesn't think I'm a joke, so I'm going to listen to her."
Connor has never actually had anyone in his corner before. As minor a character as Willa is, she has shifted her motives from being "is this going to benefit me?" to "is this going to benefit us?" and that has made a world of difference in Connor's decision making.
Not about the episode, but Nicholas Braun is the Armchair Expert guest today. Just started listening to it.
I'm convinced that Tom is going to die because of the Nero speech a season or two again.
Phrasing said:
The scene with Connor telling the kids about spending time with Pop while he was dead was hilarious.
My favorite Connor line was when Roman brought up the ambassadorship to Mogadishu: "feels car-bomby"
It also makes me think does anyone else on the show actually have someone in their corner? All the alliances among the characters are very temporary so Connor and Willa really stand out as one of the few (only?) healthy relationships despite it still being a bit dysfunctional.Proposition Joe said:
Connor has never actually had anyone in his corner before. As minor a character as Willa is, she has shifted her motives from being "is this going to benefit me?" to "is this going to benefit us?" and that has made a world of difference in Connor's decision making.
To that point, I had almost forgotten that Kendall even had a wife and kid.
That relationship with his family and the fact that he wears that hat all the time like his dad, I've gotta think that we have more parallels coming.
That relationship with his family and the fact that he wears that hat all the time like his dad, I've gotta think that we have more parallels coming.
The entire sequence of Roman and Connor going back and forth on the acceptable quid pro quo for dropping out of the presidential race was one of my favorite things this season. I could watch an entire episode of them hammering out what he'd find acceptable to drop out of the race. The discussions about North and South Korea and Oman were my favorites.Willy Wonka said:Phrasing said:
The scene with Connor telling the kids about spending time with Pop while he was dead was hilarious.
My favorite Connor line was when Roman brought up the ambassadorship to Mogadishu: "feels car-bomby"
"Poor man's Saudi Arabia, rich man's Yemen" was the line of the night for me, incredible.
Berlin by Christmas.Max Power said:The entire sequence of Roman and Connor going back and forth on the acceptable quid pro quo for dropping out of the presidential race was one of my favorite things this season. I could watch an entire episode of them hammering out what he'd find acceptable to drop out of the race. The discussions about North and South Korea and Oman were my favorites.Willy Wonka said:Phrasing said:
The scene with Connor telling the kids about spending time with Pop while he was dead was hilarious.
My favorite Connor line was when Roman brought up the ambassadorship to Mogadishu: "feels car-bomby"
"Poor man's Saudi Arabia, rich man's Yemen" was the line of the night for me, incredible.
Willy Wonka said:
To that point, I had almost forgotten that Kendall even had a wife and kid.
That relationship with his family and the fact that he wears that hat all the time like his dad, I've gotta think that we have more parallels coming.
Yeah, there was no other reason to have the early scene last night if it wasn't going to represent something down the road.
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Nate, Maxim Pierce, Kendall's actual family. We got some Succession character deep cuts last night.
i cannot wait for Roman's speech at Logan's funeral
I enjoyed that his opening rebuttal was the UN after being offered Somalia. I commend Kieran Culkin for keeping it together during that exchange. I'd love to see the bloopers of those two having that chat. It had to have been ridiculous just to see it written on a page, but to be there when Alan Ruck said it had to have been next level.Phrasing said:Berlin by Christmas.Max Power said:The entire sequence of Roman and Connor going back and forth on the acceptable quid pro quo for dropping out of the presidential race was one of my favorite things this season. I could watch an entire episode of them hammering out what he'd find acceptable to drop out of the race. The discussions about North and South Korea and Oman were my favorites.Willy Wonka said:Phrasing said:
The scene with Connor telling the kids about spending time with Pop while he was dead was hilarious.
My favorite Connor line was when Roman brought up the ambassadorship to Mogadishu: "feels car-bomby"
"Poor man's Saudi Arabia, rich man's Yemen" was the line of the night for me, incredible.
Proposition Joe said:
Connor has never actually had anyone in his corner before. As minor a character as Willa is, she has shifted her motives from being "is this going to benefit me?" to "is this going to benefit us?" and that has made a world of difference in Connor's decision making.
I mean she was an escort and customer of Connor's pee pee.
Friends, myself, countrymen, lend me your ears;jackie childs said:
i cannot wait for Roman's speech at Logan's funeral
I come to bury Logan, not to praise him.
The evil that men do lives after ATN;
The good is oft interred with their bones;
So let it be with Logan. The noble Petkus
Hath told you Logan was ambitious:
If it were so, it was a grievous fault,
And grievously hath Logan answer'd it.
Et tu..... who?Prosperdick said:Friends, myself, countrymen, lend me your ears;jackie childs said:
i cannot wait for Roman's speech at Logan's funeral
I come to bury Logan, not to praise him.
The evil that men do lives after ATN;
The good is oft interred with their bones;
So let it be with Logan. The noble Petkus
Hath told you Logan was ambitious:
If it were so, it was a grievous fault,
And grievously hath Logan answer'd it.
I'm kinda surprised we haven't heard much butt hurt on this thread over the portrayal of Fox News in the show.
Head Ninja In Charge said:The funeral episode will be the GOAT episode of the series. Calling it.k20dub said:Hmmmm...we haven't seen Marcia in a couple of episodes...Max Power said:
I love that we're getting close to the end and just about everything is on the table. I do think there's a shock coming in the form of Logan's will that completely turns everything sideways.
Of Logan's funeral, Connor mentioned this episode that they "really want a tight 90" (minutes).
Considering the series finale was recently announced as being 90 minutes, we could be looking at a massive, real-time funeral episode to end the whole thing. Everyone and their dog will no doubt be there, which means nearly every relevant cast member from the past four seasons, which obviously means maximum drama.
So maybe it goes something like this...
Episode 08 = the election
Episode 09 = sets the stage for whatever the final, back-stabbing play is
And then, in true Succession fashion, where some kind of urgent ordeal is going on behind-the-scenes at a wedding, party, etc...
Episode 10 = the funeral + execution of the final, back-stabbing play
What is the story on Tom's wine he's trying to get rid of? Review articles mentioned it was from a previous season but I don't remember the story.
Good question - I'm curious as well. He also mentions it in their fight -"And then you fobbed me off with that fckn' undrinkable wine, and you won't have my baby because you never even thought, honestly, that you'd be with me more than, like, four fckn' years, I don't think!"Proposition Joe said:
What is the story on Tom's wine he's trying to get rid of? Review articles mentioned it was from a previous season but I don't remember the story.
A review mentioned it was from back in S2 I believe but I couldn't find it.
Season 3, Episode 6:
https://vinepair.com/booze-news/succession-tom-biodynamic-wine/Quote:
But it was this Sunday's episode, "What It Takes," that served the season's best wine moment to date. Once again, the interaction took place between Tom and Shiv. However, this scene may have also offered a glimpse into the oenological preferences of Succession's writers and, most importantly, answered: are they anti or pro natural wine?
After the Roys travel to Virginia to ostensibly select the next U.S. president, the show's only "steady" couple are sat in their hotel room when Tom opens a bottle from their very own German vineyard. For a brief moment, it seems like Tom might finally be able to distract himself from thoughts of serving time. "It's the Sptburgunder," he tells Shiv excitedly. "Our vineyard!"
But happy moments are fleeting at best for the show's protagonists, and true to form, the tasting quickly turns sour. First comes Tom's immediate disappointment upon discovering that the wine has a screw cap. Undeterred, he pours two glasses.
"So it's biodynamic," he tells Shiv, who's sidetracked watching a news broadcast on an iPad, and apparently couldn't care less about their first vintage. "It has quite a funk to it," Tom adds, nose deep in glass and frown rising on his face.
"You kind of have to meet it halfway, right?" Tom says, after both parties take a grimace-inducing first sip. "It's earthy…kind of Germanic?" Shiv replies.
"There's lots to unpack," Tom agrees. "It's not floral. It's not sugary, or vegetal. It's quite agricultural, you know, it's, it's, uh …" Finally, he concedes defeat. "It's not very nice, the wine, is it, Shiv?"
That was a hilarious scene in season 2 when they bought the winery and were tasting it, realizing it was terrible. Gave me a couple lines I use often when drinking wine.
"It's a bit agricultural"
"This is one you kind of need to meet in the middle"
"It's a bit agricultural"
"This is one you kind of need to meet in the middle"
Ghost of Bisbee said:Brian Earl Spilner said:
Hey guys just fyi, Tom is tired.
Had me rolling! Great episode and phenomenal writing. That had to be fun figuring out how to put all those characters together in one setting.
My other favorites:
- Matsson calling Greg "Slim Reaper"
- Connor's mutton-chop-wearing clown campaign manager, and Connor wanting North Korea
- Greg trying to work his way into every relevant circle and failing on almost all counts
- I love that for the first time ever, Connor and Willa have leverage
Props to whoever it was who correctly theorized Gerri would threaten revealing the dick pics
And I also thought Tom was going to jump. Glad he didn't
No Karl or Hugo tonight. Strange
I've been posting about Jerri's Ace in the Hole with the dick pics. I don't think the writers use it in Roman's downfall or anything as that would be too easy but I knew there was no way it wouldn't come up. Jerri is wicked smart and an attorney, the texts and dick pics are like a blank check for her.
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That's an interesting idea, but the funeral would have to be no more than the first half, or it doesn't leave much room for a denouement.TCTTS said:Head Ninja In Charge said:The funeral episode will be the GOAT episode of the series. Calling it.k20dub said:Hmmmm...we haven't seen Marcia in a couple of episodes...Max Power said:
I love that we're getting close to the end and just about everything is on the table. I do think there's a shock coming in the form of Logan's will that completely turns everything sideways.
Of Logan's funeral, Connor mentioned this episode that they "really want a tight 90" (minutes).
Considering the series finale was recently announced as being 90 minutes, we could be looking at a massive, real-time funeral episode to end the whole thing. Everyone and their dog will no doubt be there, which means nearly every relevant cast member from the past four seasons, which obviously means maximum drama.
So maybe it goes something like this...
Episode 08 = the election
Episode 09 = sets the stage for whatever the final, back-stabbing play is
And then, in true Succession fashion, where some kind of urgent ordeal is going on behind-the-scenes at a wedding, party, etc...
Episode 10 = the funeral + execution of the final, back-stabbing play
Has all of this season taken place over a week's time? It seems like the ol man has been dead for at least three weeks by now. Why are they waiting so long to hold the funeral?
Disclaimer: Views expressed in this post reflect the opinions of Texags user bonfarr and are not to be accepted as facts or to be accepted at face value.
It's been about 8-10 days or so.
This has been the most I've enjoyed a season in real time since breaking bad.
I think it's only been 5-6 days since he died. And Connor has been very in to the embalming process, lol. I think the funeral will be EP 9 creating another incredible penultimate episode of HBO Sunday night Prestige TV.
TCTTS said:
It's been about 8-10 days or so.
To clarify, I meant that the season has been 8-10 days, not that's it's been 8-10 day since Logan passed.
I'm legitimately wondering how they figure out who to give the Emmy to between Kieran Culkin, Jeremy Strong, and Matthew Macfadyen.
Macfayden.
Strong already won for S1 or S2, and while I like Culkin's character, Macfayden's has far more depth to it.
Strong already won for S1 or S2, and while I like Culkin's character, Macfayden's has far more depth to it.
Man, I see just as much depth in Culkin's character/performance as well, especially this season.
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