What type of tractor could I get that would fit on my existing 6x12 trailer? Not wanting to have to get a new trailer, and not wanting a super large tractor. Just something to til and shred.
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single or double axle? axle size?
look at the GVWR of your trailer and go from there. If it's a single axle with a 3k axle the biggest you can get probably only going to be a 25-30hp unit.
Single axle 3500 lbs.
For ref, I have a Ford 30hp 4WD with FEL that would barely fit if you set the bucket on the front rail and flipped the back tires to a narrower position. I have them wide for stability ~6'. It weighs a little over 3500lb so that would be dicey. I haul w/brush hog on a 16' double axle. Use tractordata.com for your research.
Some of the new compacts are relatively light. They look
Like big riding mowers, but do have 20-30HP diesel engines and a PTO and cat 0-1 and can run an FEL. That trailer could handle something like that.
I have an old ford 1600 with an FEL but with wheel weights and implement it is quite heavy. I'd guess 3,500-4000 depending on implement, so I use a dual axle 16' trailer.
I highly highly recommend welding a couple of flip down side crank jacks on the rear corners of a trailer. Helps hugely to stabilize the trailer while loading/unloading.
Like big riding mowers, but do have 20-30HP diesel engines and a PTO and cat 0-1 and can run an FEL. That trailer could handle something like that.
I have an old ford 1600 with an FEL but with wheel weights and implement it is quite heavy. I'd guess 3,500-4000 depending on implement, so I use a dual axle 16' trailer.
I highly highly recommend welding a couple of flip down side crank jacks on the rear corners of a trailer. Helps hugely to stabilize the trailer while loading/unloading.
By limiting yourself like this, you are basically going to have to get a "sub-compact" tractor (essentially a large lawn/garden tractor).
Even a Kubota l2502 (or 2501) is really too big for a 6x12 trailer, if you have a shredder or tiller attached. (A "compact" tractor, not "sub compact").
You "could" look at the older Yanmar/Iseki/etc "gray market" tractors (15-20hp), but, again, these are pretty small.
Honestly, you need to think about getting you a tandem axle 7x14 or 7x16 trailer. It'll be safer, they're not that expensive ($1500-$2000 used), and they're easy to find. With those smaller tractors, about all you'll be able to run is a 4' shredder or tiller (rather than a 5'-6').
Are you doing suburban/"ranchette" work (sub-5 acres), or are you doing some 10-20 acre and up, stuff??
Even a Kubota l2502 (or 2501) is really too big for a 6x12 trailer, if you have a shredder or tiller attached. (A "compact" tractor, not "sub compact").
You "could" look at the older Yanmar/Iseki/etc "gray market" tractors (15-20hp), but, again, these are pretty small.
Honestly, you need to think about getting you a tandem axle 7x14 or 7x16 trailer. It'll be safer, they're not that expensive ($1500-$2000 used), and they're easy to find. With those smaller tractors, about all you'll be able to run is a 4' shredder or tiller (rather than a 5'-6').
Are you doing suburban/"ranchette" work (sub-5 acres), or are you doing some 10-20 acre and up, stuff??
fburgtx said:
By limiting yourself like this, you are basically going to have to get a "sub-compact" tractor (essentially a large lawn/garden tractor).
Even a Kubota l2502 (or 2501) is really too big for a 6x12 trailer, if you have a shredder or tiller attached. (A "compact" tractor, not "sub compact").
You "could" look at the older Yanmar/Iseki/etc "gray market" tractors (15-20hp), but, again, these are pretty small.
Honestly, you need to think about getting you a tandem axle 7x14 or 7x16 trailer. It'll be safer, they're not that expensive ($1500-$2000 used), and they're easy to find. With those smaller tractors, about all you'll be able to run is a 4' shredder or tiller (rather than a 5'-6').
Are you doing suburban/"ranchette" work (sub-5 acres), or are you doing some 10-20 acre and up, stuff??
Less than 5 acres. Erego fitting tractor to the trailer. I don't have the funds to buy both.
Buy something from the dealer and let them deliver it maybe? Make sure they offer mobile service.
Trump will fix it.
techno-ag said:
Buy something from the dealer and let them deliver it maybe? Make sure they offer mobile service.
I want to be able to use it elsewhere. Erego trying to find one that fits my trailer.
John Deere 870. Have had one for years. Zero problems and it mows regularly with a 4 ft frontier mower.
Tractordata.com will give you the weight and specs of any tractor you're looking at.
In addition to the 870, 770, 970, are other options along with the newer 90 series- 790,890, 990
The 2 wheel drive versions will be more reliable and problem free than 4 wheel drive versions.
Tractordata.com will give you the weight and specs of any tractor you're looking at.
In addition to the 870, 770, 970, are other options along with the newer 90 series- 790,890, 990
The 2 wheel drive versions will be more reliable and problem free than 4 wheel drive versions.
Mas89 said:
John Deere 870. Have had one for years. Zero problems and it mows regularly with a 4 ft frontier mower.
Tractordata.com will give you the weight and specs of any tractor you're looking at.
In addition to the 870, 770, 970, are other options along with the newer 90 series- 790,890, 990
The 2 wheel drive versions will be more reliable and problem free than 4 wheel drive versions.
Thx. I'll be going used, so I'll have to find what is available.
It's just my opinion, but if you really want a tractor and it's something you really need don't hamstring yourself with the trailer being the deciding factor. Get what tractor you really need and if it ends up being to big for the trailer sell it and get the right trailer. It's always better to have that bigger trailer in case you load up with other stuff. Again just my opinion.
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Question for the experts on here. I have a tandem axle 16 foot utility trailer. I will need to have my tractor serviced soon (weight is 4000 pounds). I am not concerned about the trailer being able to handle the weight but how do you guys typically load your tractors? I am concerned that the standard trailer ramp may not be able to handle the weight.
John Cocktolstoy said:
It's just my opinion, but if you really want a tractor and it's something you really need don't hamstring yourself with the trailer being the deciding factor. Get what tractor you really need and if it ends up being to big for the trailer sell it and get the right trailer. It's always better to have that bigger trailer in case you load up with other stuff. Again just my opinion.
I don't need a tractor. I just want one. I'm Interested in a smaller tractor anyhow, l I don't have loads of extra money like all the TexAgs big ballers.
Your ramp will probably handle it, but if you don't think it will, then support the trailer or the ramps, or don't use the ramps.
Hook the trailer up, place wooden blocks under the back corners of the trailer, and under the mid-points of the ramps.
Or don't use the ramp, back the trailer in a ditch or against a raised curb, and drive tractor on without ramps. Or hook the trailer up, and jack the front end of the trailer up, so that the back end is low. It's a tractor, it can easily climb a few inches.
Lots of ways to redneck it.
Hook the trailer up, place wooden blocks under the back corners of the trailer, and under the mid-points of the ramps.
Or don't use the ramp, back the trailer in a ditch or against a raised curb, and drive tractor on without ramps. Or hook the trailer up, and jack the front end of the trailer up, so that the back end is low. It's a tractor, it can easily climb a few inches.
Lots of ways to redneck it.
I don't know that there is in fact a "standard" ramp used by the utility trailer industry.
Your quality/capacity of ramp will just be determined by the company that built them.
They should be able to handle the load that the trailer is rated for….. but it will, of course, again depend on the individual trailer manufacturer and how quality of a ramp they built.
Perhaps contact the trailer manufacturer and ask them.
Your quality/capacity of ramp will just be determined by the company that built them.
They should be able to handle the load that the trailer is rated for….. but it will, of course, again depend on the individual trailer manufacturer and how quality of a ramp they built.
Perhaps contact the trailer manufacturer and ask them.
You and me both!zooguy96 said:John Cocktolstoy said:
It's just my opinion, but if you really want a tractor and it's something you really need don't hamstring yourself with the trailer being the deciding factor. Get what tractor you really need and if it ends up being to big for the trailer sell it and get the right trailer. It's always better to have that bigger trailer in case you load up with other stuff. Again just my opinion.
I don't need a tractor. I just want one. I'm Interested in a smaller tractor anyhow, l I don't have loads of extra money like all the TexAgs big ballers.
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I don't need a tractor. I just want one. I'm Interested in a smaller tractor anyhow, l I don't have loads of extra money like all the TexAgs big ballers.
Well, folks have given you options for the small tractor. And being TexAgs, we can't help but give unsolicited advice, too. Such as:
Sell your single axle, and buy a used double axle off of Facebook Marketplace. You'll be happier with it in the long run, and find a lot of uses for it. The price difference won't be much. I have a single axle, and I only use it for a small fuel tank. I use the double axle all the time. Pulls better, handles more weight, can see it in the mirror to back up, etc. etc.
^^THIS^^CanyonAg77 said:Quote:
I don't need a tractor. I just want one. I'm Interested in a smaller tractor anyhow, l I don't have loads of extra money like all the TexAgs big ballers.
Well, folks have given you options for the small tractor. And being TexAgs, we can't help but give unsolicited advice, too. Such as:
Sell your single axle, and buy a used double axle off of Facebook Marketplace. You'll be happier with it in the long run, and find a lot of uses for it. The price difference won't be much. I have a single axle, and I only use it for a small fuel tank. I use the double axle all the time. Pulls better, handles more weight, can see it in the mirror to back up, etc. etc.
Second Hardest Workin Man on Texags
Another option, depending on how close the dealership is, you could just road it home. There's nothing quite like a few hour tractor ride down the road. Then, once you save up enough, you can buy a trailer to haul it around.
And why has nobody recommended renting a trailer yet? That shouldn't cost you more than $100 for the day.
And why has nobody recommended renting a trailer yet? That shouldn't cost you more than $100 for the day.
StockHorseAg said:
Another option, depending on how close the dealership is, you could just road it home.
I think you live in the Amarillo area, too.
My 4960 is currently at Western Equipment getting front MFWD seals replaced. Last time I roaded it up there for a repair was over a decade ago.
NEVER AGAIN.
There is no back road between their place on I-27 between Canyon and Amarillo, and my place SW of Canyon. Soncy Road is a nightmare for a slow moving vehicle. Two lane, traffic enough for four lane, no shoulders, idiots who have no idea how to handle passing a tractor, and will not move into the far lane. Seems to be a game of "how close can we get to the 20,000 pound tractor without hitting it".
I didn't even ask how much, I just told them to send their truck and pick it up.
To add to the idea of renting a trailer for the day, I'd call the dealer and ask how much if they picked it up with their truck.
Agreed. Let the dealer handle it.CanyonAg77 said:StockHorseAg said:
Another option, depending on how close the dealership is, you could just road it home.
I think you live in the Amarillo area, too.
My 4960 is currently at Western Equipment getting front MFWD seals replaced. Last time I roaded it up there for a repair was over a decade ago.
NEVER AGAIN.
There is no back road between their place on I-27 between Canyon and Amarillo, and my place SW of Canyon. Soncy Road is a nightmare for a slow moving vehicle. Two lane, traffic enough for four lane, no shoulders, idiots who have no idea how to handle passing a tractor, and will not move into the far lane. Seems to be a game of "how close can we get to the 20,000 pound tractor without hitting it".
I didn't even ask how much, I just told them to send their truck and pick it up.
To add to the idea of renting a trailer for the day, I'd call the dealer and ask how much if they picked it up with their truck.
Trump will fix it.
If it's an expanded metal drop gate then likely would need some reinforcement. I bought four ramps since I have my back wheels spread.
Maybe beating a dead horse but if you are going to haul a tractor often I would not put it on a single axle. Of course I'm an engineer and cherish redundancy.
Maybe beating a dead horse but if you are going to haul a tractor often I would not put it on a single axle. Of course I'm an engineer and cherish redundancy.
I can't imagine how terrifying it would be if you are hauling a tractor that is at the load capacity of a single axle trailer and you have a blow out on the highway. I looked on Facebook marketplace, there are plenty of decent 14-16' double axles trailers for less than $2,000, and plenty of 12' single axle trailers for more than $1,000. You could spend less than $1,000 for the security of the second axle, seems like a no brainer to me.
Don't buy a tractor based on the trailer you have! Buy a tractor, then pair a trailer that works with it and your needs. Otherwise you will hate life.
A 12' trailer is way too short for anything of substance. Even a subcompact tractor with a FEL is going to take up the entire trailer and will have a crappy load distribution that will make hauling not fun at all.
I had a B2410 with a push blade on the front at one point and I needed a 14' trailer to be able to get the load properly placed on the axles and tongue. And that left exactly zero room for anything longer than a box blade on the 3 pt.
Now I have a L3800 with FEL and an 18' trailer and I can put the tractor on with a 6' shredder. The shredder will overhang the rear but it is well balanced. I also have enough room up front to add another implement if I need to under the bucket.
Bottom line - don't try to make something work that will end up costing you more than just sucking it up and getting the right trailer combination for the tractor you want.
A 12' trailer is way too short for anything of substance. Even a subcompact tractor with a FEL is going to take up the entire trailer and will have a crappy load distribution that will make hauling not fun at all.
I had a B2410 with a push blade on the front at one point and I needed a 14' trailer to be able to get the load properly placed on the axles and tongue. And that left exactly zero room for anything longer than a box blade on the 3 pt.
Now I have a L3800 with FEL and an 18' trailer and I can put the tractor on with a 6' shredder. The shredder will overhang the rear but it is well balanced. I also have enough room up front to add another implement if I need to under the bucket.
Bottom line - don't try to make something work that will end up costing you more than just sucking it up and getting the right trailer combination for the tractor you want.
You need something along the lines of JD 1025. Be sure the tractor says John Deere or Kubota on the side. Whatever you get, be sure it has a loader bucket on the front. It is the handiest thing you can have on a tractor. Probably going to have to stay in the "sub-compact" range in order to stay in the weight limits of your trailer.
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