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maroon barchetta
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Which magic judge(s) let this POS out?
Silian Rail
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CDUB98 said:

Silian Rail said:

TarponChaser said:

We don't have a gun problem in the USA we have a violent criminal problem. Even if you remove every homicide in this country committed with a gun our rates of violent crime committed with knives, clubs, and even bare hands drastically exceeds that in every single EU country, the UK, and Ireland.


Let's be honest guys, we have a problem with one race that is exceedingly violent.

Asians commit murder at a rate of 1.13 per 100k (similar to Sweden)
Whites/Hispanics commit murder at a rate of 1.5 per 100k (similar to Finland)
African Americans commit murder at a rate of 7.4 per 100k (similar to Zimbabwe)

We don't need gun control.



Now do socioeconomic class.


Compared with Zimbabwe?

Socioeconomic class matters, but West Virginia is dirt poor and relatively low crime
Alan Combs Zombie
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The 13% commits half of all violent crime in the USA
CDUB98
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Of course not compared to Zimbabwe.

I'd consider many of the Appalachian hillbillies to be a bit of an anomaly, as they don't commit as many crimes because there's literally nothing to gain. They also have a tendency to take care of things on their own without involving the gov't, so skewed data.

The socioeconomics is a factor though just using basic logic.

Middle class to upper class have no reason to commit crimes other than boredom or they think they can get away with it, generally. Of course, you always have those loons which contribute to that 1.X% number.

Lower-middle class and the poor are typically more desperate for XYZ. Skin color usually doesn't matter.

Now, taking my postulation above, who tends to be poor in this country? In case the NSA is watching, I'll just say we all know.

I do agree, have stated as such, there is a cultural problem there. It is easily seen each and every day. But, I guess my point is that I don't think skin color alone is the only factor. I tend to err on the side that poverty pushes crime more than culture. BUT, it's only an opinion. I'm not stating it as fact.
Silian Rail
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Reasonable take, socioeconomics undoubtedly a major factor.
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Wtf.
texagbeliever
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You really need to break out socioeconomic status and rural/suburban/urban. Rural poor know their victims and likely know the families. Makes it harder to get away with things. Suburban and poor dont typically mix... by design.

Urban and poor is a dangerous mix. You get the dehumanization brought on by public transportation. Less likely to be prosecuted for lower crimes which empowers one to commit more violent/dangerous crimes. Opportunity for centralized crime organizations due to abundance of recruits (gangs).
Hydrocele_aggie
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Stat Monitor Repairman said:



Wtf.


Bree got some cans
CDUB98
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She looked preggers again to me.
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https://abc13.com/tomball-shots-fired-argument-ends-in-deadly-shooting-oconee-princeton-place/11961386/

this sounds like some white people violence
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texagbeliever said:

You really need to break out socioeconomic status and rural/suburban/urban. Rural poor know their victims and likely know the families. Makes it harder to get away with things. Suburban and poor dont typically mix... by design.

Urban and poor is a dangerous mix. You get the dehumanization brought on by public transportation. Less likely to be prosecuted for lower crimes which empowers one to commit more violent/dangerous crimes. Opportunity for centralized crime organizations due to abundance of recruits (gangs).
Yes
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sts7049 said:

https://abc13.com/tomball-shots-fired-argument-ends-in-deadly-shooting-oconee-princeton-place/11961386/

this sounds like some white people violence
What a weird story.

WIfe goes out drinking with other couple
They drop her off at 3AM on a Wednesday morning
Husband comes out to berate wife and other couple
Other husband comes back with a gun - although it is not clear if he retrieved it from the car or went home to get it
Drunk husband shoots irate husband

Ladies and gentlemen, I present to you the shooter. Yeah...

Silian Rail
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They're mistaken on the location. Whenever anything bad happens in Tomball we refer to it as "Spring"
Diggity
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Klein ISD. Enough said
txags92
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Silian Rail said:

They're mistaken on the location. Whenever anything bad happens in Tomball we refer to it as "Spring"
I love how the local news does that. When somebody in Cypress or Sugarland wins the national spelling bee, it is "Houston area teen wins the spelling bee!". But when it is a gang homicide, it is "Shooting in Northwest Harris County" or "Gangs suspected in Fort Bend County shooting".
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David Happymountain said:

sts7049 said:

https://abc13.com/tomball-shots-fired-argument-ends-in-deadly-shooting-oconee-princeton-place/11961386/

this sounds like some white people violence
What a weird story.

WIfe goes out drinking with other couple
They drop her off at 3AM on a Wednesday morning
Husband comes out to berate wife and other couple
Other husband comes back with a gun - although it is not clear if he retrieved it from the car or went home to get it
Drunk husband shoots irate husband

Ladies and gentlemen, I present to you the shooter. Yeah...



Reading between the lines it sounds like the wife of the dead guy wanted to be part of something with the other couple, goes out drinking and getting railed out by the other dude. Or maybe the shooter just watched the two wives go at it. And the dead guy wasn't into the swapping thing.
txags92
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TarponChaser said:

David Happymountain said:

sts7049 said:

https://abc13.com/tomball-shots-fired-argument-ends-in-deadly-shooting-oconee-princeton-place/11961386/

this sounds like some white people violence
What a weird story.

WIfe goes out drinking with other couple
They drop her off at 3AM on a Wednesday morning
Husband comes out to berate wife and other couple
Other husband comes back with a gun - although it is not clear if he retrieved it from the car or went home to get it
Drunk husband shoots irate husband

Ladies and gentlemen, I present to you the shooter. Yeah...



Reading between the lines it sounds like the wife of the dead guy wanted to be part of something with the other couple, goes out drinking and getting railed out by the other dude. Or maybe the shooter just watched the two wives go at it. And the dead guy wasn't into the swapping thing.
Can't say I blame him for liking his wife like he likes his coffee...without somebody else's dick in it.
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txags92 said:

Ciboag96 said:

RiverAg 80 said:

A felon in possession of a firearm should ALWAYS have a very high bond.


There is a fund in Minneapolis that was filled during the bail flood form Hollywood and liberal elites. It pays all bonds for all felons NO ****ING QUESTIONS ASKED.

I wouldn't be surprised if we have that same fund in Houston. NO ONE ASKS WHERE THE BOND FUNDS COMES FROM. This ****ing scumbag was bailed out for felony firearms possession. Why isn't anyone asking why!?!? Because it is a part of the god damned plan.

Gun control nutjobs are also paying felony bonds.

**** all these *******s.
They don't need a fund for it in Houston because our court systems are not collecting from the bond companies for revoked bonds. The bond companies are charging 1-2% of the bond for a fee instead of the normal 10% or more. The bond companies can afford to take on even the really high or risky bonds for repeat offenders because they know for certain they will never be asked to actually pay that amount to the city/county if the felon skips out or violates the bond.

So for the rare repeat felon who gets a $25,000 bond, he can expect to get out of jail for about $250-$500. And with our criminal courts still pretending that the Covid cooties are something to be worried about and not holding felony trials, they can be assured that once they are out, it will be many years before they are asked to appear in a courtroom. With the consequences so far removed from them being caught, there is no deterrent effect whatsoever and it is no wonder they are back committing more crimes almost right away.

Crime isn't going down in Houston, people are just learning to accept it and expect that the police will do nothing about it, so they don't report it anymore.
Back in the day, the f'n judges that set these bonds would be drug from the bench and tarred and feathered publicly, then a lynch mob would probably take care of the criminal.

I'm not saying that either was a bad thing and should it happen today, i'd dance a jig and laugh at their misery. Because there needs to be lasting physical pain with scars applied to some people.
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I do condone the tarring and feathering of these damned judges, but, yeah nah, I'm not going to get on board with the mob justice thing.
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CDUB98 said:

Silian Rail said:

TarponChaser said:

We don't have a gun problem in the USA we have a violent criminal problem. Even if you remove every homicide in this country committed with a gun our rates of violent crime committed with knives, clubs, and even bare hands drastically exceeds that in every single EU country, the UK, and Ireland.


Let's be honest guys, we have a problem with one race that is exceedingly violent.

Asians commit murder at a rate of 1.13 per 100k (similar to Sweden)
Whites/Hispanics commit murder at a rate of 1.5 per 100k (similar to Finland)
African Americans commit murder at a rate of 7.4 per 100k (similar to Zimbabwe)

We don't need gun control.



Now do socioeconomic class.
I'd bet that the status of the family has a lot more to do with it than rich or poor.

We are seeing the fruits of the labor of the feds to destroy the nuclear family - especially in the minority communities - since the 60's.
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Smeghead4761 said:

Mr. AGSPRT04 said:

BohunkAg said:

Ciboag96 said:

Another child killed last night

https://www.khou.com/article/news/crime/girl-killed-mother-shot-in-houston-heights/285-fc62f118-b4d8-4b89-a188-b2bfed7eecbe

Guy on patrol for felony, felon in possession of a firearm.


Not "a bond," FIVE bonds.



4/14/2022 EVADING ARREST/DETENTION W/VEHICLE (F)

5/29/2018 HARASSMENT OF PUBLIC SERVANT (F)

3/7/2018 AGG ROBBERY-DEADLY WPN (F)

3/1/2018 FAIL TO ID TO P.O. FALSE INF (M)

7/31/2017 THEFT OF FIREARM (F)


And that's just on his adult record
Are those arrest dates, or conviction dates? If they're arrest dates, then I would think he should have been convicted by now for the 2017 and 2018 crimes. Which would be parole for 3 (misdemeanor should be done already) and bond for the 2022 'Evading Charge.

Doesn't change much - still Felon in Possession, plus violation of bond conditions, and violation of parole.

If he was out on parole for the 2017 and 2018 crimes, he should have been sent back to the Graybar Hotel after the April 2022 arrest for violation of parole.


There is a serious problem with backlog in Houston.

What is a reasonable time to expect someone to wait for their trial? Even 2 months seems like a pretty long time.
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schmellba99 said:

CDUB98 said:

Silian Rail said:

TarponChaser said:

We don't have a gun problem in the USA we have a violent criminal problem. Even if you remove every homicide in this country committed with a gun our rates of violent crime committed with knives, clubs, and even bare hands drastically exceeds that in every single EU country, the UK, and Ireland.


Let's be honest guys, we have a problem with one race that is exceedingly violent.

Asians commit murder at a rate of 1.13 per 100k (similar to Sweden)
Whites/Hispanics commit murder at a rate of 1.5 per 100k (similar to Finland)
African Americans commit murder at a rate of 7.4 per 100k (similar to Zimbabwe)

We don't need gun control.



Now do socioeconomic class.
I'd bet that the status of the family has a lot more to do with it than rich or poor.

We are seeing the fruits of the labor of the feds to destroy the nuclear family - especially in the minority communities - since the 60's.


I agree a bit, but often a broken family and poverty go hand in hand. The question is which causes which?
TarponChaser
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CDUB98 said:

schmellba99 said:

CDUB98 said:

Silian Rail said:

TarponChaser said:

We don't have a gun problem in the USA we have a violent criminal problem. Even if you remove every homicide in this country committed with a gun our rates of violent crime committed with knives, clubs, and even bare hands drastically exceeds that in every single EU country, the UK, and Ireland.


Let's be honest guys, we have a problem with one race that is exceedingly violent.

Asians commit murder at a rate of 1.13 per 100k (similar to Sweden)
Whites/Hispanics commit murder at a rate of 1.5 per 100k (similar to Finland)
African Americans commit murder at a rate of 7.4 per 100k (similar to Zimbabwe)

We don't need gun control.



Now do socioeconomic class.
I'd bet that the status of the family has a lot more to do with it than rich or poor.

We are seeing the fruits of the labor of the feds to destroy the nuclear family - especially in the minority communities - since the 60's.


I agree a bit, but often a broken family and poverty go hand in hand. The question is which causes which?

wypipo, duh.
CDUB98
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Oh, damn. Yeah, my white supremacy blinded me from seeing that.
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texagbeliever said:

You really need to break out socioeconomic status and rural/suburban/urban. Rural poor know their victims and likely know the families. Makes it harder to get away with things. Suburban and poor dont typically mix... by design.

Urban and poor is a dangerous mix. You get the dehumanization brought on by public transportation. Less likely to be prosecuted for lower crimes which empowers one to commit more violent/dangerous crimes. Opportunity for centralized crime organizations due to abundance of recruits (gangs).
Also the basic fact that the urban poor have way more opportunity because of their proximity to wealth. That is the biggest metric in crime rates usually. It's not just socioeconomic status, but also low socioeconomic status living right next to very high socioeconomic status people.

I don't think it's just the increased opportunity that makes that relation, of poor in close proximity to not poor, so important either. It is also that they see, on a daily basis people that have way more stuff than them on a daily basis all around them. What real pressures does a poor rural kid have to have high end shoes or watches or other status symbols when no one around him has those things either?
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There is no place in the country with a 2 month turn around for a trial date. Even where I was DA, in rural west Texas, each prosecutor handled between 350-400 cases at a time. This included Motions to Revoke Probations. The defendants in jail should always be at the top of the trial docket, Next would be the oldest cases on the docket or a case where it was important to have a quick turn around to trial date, such as a case with a child victim/witness.

And every DA office in every big city in Texas is short of prosecutors, for 2 reasons. One is being a prosecutor is no longer looked on with favor. Law students who want to be a prosecutor while in law school are ridiculed, plus going into private practice is so much more lucrative. The pay for prosecutors, including the elected DAs, has once again fallen way behind. Secondly, many prosecutors, both young and old, do not want to work for the progressive DAs that inhabit just about every city in Texas.

Throw on top of this the lazy azz judges, some of whom have not been in their courthouse since March, 2020, and there you have an unbelievable backlog.

Glad I got out of the game when I did. Our criminal justice system is a mess.
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Thank you for your insight!

I'm curious, what do you think is a "reasonable" expectation for a "speedy" trial?
SW AG80
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Pre Covid---9 months in my jurisdiction.
Now, I have no damn idea. Like I said, glad I am retired.
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https://abc13.com/houston-police-swiss-lane-edwin-hill-murder-victim-father-killed/11963465/
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First a Jag and another vehicle and now a Bentley in the driveway.

Five guys involved?

This is organized crime, no doubt.

Great job, Cheel and Ogg and Dora and the Magic judges.
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I guess my concern is..how do you make someone sit in jail for.........no telling how long?

before the board jumps on my throat, I don't think the answer is let everyone run willy nilly until their court date, but also.. bail isn't supposed to be a punishment by itself. I dunno.
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I totally overlooked COVID when I was thinking he should have been already tried on the 2017 and 2018 crimes. He was most likely awaiting trial on those when COVID hit.

So, entirely possible that he was awaiting trial on the whole list Which makes the question, why wasn't his bail yanked at some point when he was out on bail for one crime and got arrested for another?

Especially if the Agg. Robbery with a Deadly Weapon was with a firearm after he was arrested and bonded out for Theft of a Firearm?

When the people screaming for gun control are the same ones advocating for going easy on criminals who use guns, it makes one wonder if the conspiracy nuts have a point.
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There isn't a set answer, but getting rid of cash bond is just stupid and displays a fundamental lack of understanding of human nature, especially the nature of criminal humans.

But not revoking bond when bond conditions are violated, and not setting much higher bond amounts for both individuals who commit crimes when out on bond, and recidivist offenders, or revoking parole who individuals who commit crimes while on parole, is displays a massive lack of common sense.
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swimmerbabe11 said:

I guess my concern is..how do you make someone sit in jail for.........no telling how long?

before the board jumps on my throat, I don't think the answer is let everyone run willy nilly until their court date, but also.. bail isn't supposed to be a punishment by itself. I dunno.
As long as it takes.

I've got a BS case where the plaintiff was out on parole, committed a violent crime in Harris County, released on bail and committed another crime in Harris, released on bail, then committed a crime in Galveston County, then rather than send him back to Harris for revoking his bail, they let him out saying basically "that's none of our business", then commits another crime in Harris. He's currently still in jail, but has asked to be released on personal recognizance. Case keeps getting reset and kicked down the road. It is only a matter of time before he's let out again.

Rap sheet a mile long not including the current crimes. He should have never been let out after breaking parole conditions. He hasn't killed anyone, but there is no reason to give him another opportunity.
 
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