mavsfan4ever said:
Danny green is 32
Nobody here expects the mavs to compete for a title this year.hph6203 said:
Most teams don't have two all-star caliber players that are under the age of 24, effectively or really locked up for 4 years. The idea is to identify guys that are between the ages of 22 and 30 that can survive/improve during the 3-4 years of growth of your star potential players development.
Seth Curry fits in that.
Danny Green fits in that.
Demarcus Cousins, if he can keep his mouth shut, fits in that.
You buy a 32 year old today, by the time Luka is entering his prime he's 35+ and ready to retire. The Mavs don't want a top of the line player that requires the ball in his hands to be impactful, it's why Brogdon was a better option than Kemba.
Build the foundation, walls and windows right now with quality depth and then put the Ferrari in the driveway when this team is already playoff caliber. A 27 year old you sign today will be a "vet" by the last year of his contract and our best players will still be 27 years old or younger.
Dirk is gone. The years of trying to win NOW are over, we have time to build slow and the right way. This team was never going to jump to legitimate contender status in one off-season.
I have season tickets and this is not true. Dirk+Luka had the stadium pretty packed most nights (with the exception of the obvious Tuesday night snoozers against teams like the Grizzlies or Knicks).Grapesoda2525 said:Nobody here expects the mavs to compete for a title this year.hph6203 said:
Most teams don't have two all-star caliber players that are under the age of 24, effectively or really locked up for 4 years. The idea is to identify guys that are between the ages of 22 and 30 that can survive/improve during the 3-4 years of growth of your star potential players development.
Seth Curry fits in that.
Danny Green fits in that.
Demarcus Cousins, if he can keep his mouth shut, fits in that.
You buy a 32 year old today, by the time Luka is entering his prime he's 35+ and ready to retire. The Mavs don't want a top of the line player that requires the ball in his hands to be impactful, it's why Brogdon was a better option than Kemba.
Build the foundation, walls and windows right now with quality depth and then put the Ferrari in the driveway when this team is already playoff caliber. A 27 year old you sign today will be a "vet" by the last year of his contract and our best players will still be 27 years old or younger.
Dirk is gone. The years of trying to win NOW are over, we have time to build slow and the right way. This team was never going to jump to legitimate contender status in one off-season.
I think what everyone was hoping for and dare I say expecting is for Cuban and Donnie to get enough free agents to compete for a playoff spot and have a team capable of filling the arena most nights. The fan base's interest in the team has been lethargic and the arena was half full for most games last year. If the fans aren't engaged and the team can't win at least close to 50 games a year with luka and porzingis, those guys aren't going to want to stay.
He was talked about several times including once on this page.M.C. Swag said:
Who is talking about Kemba?
M.C. Swag said:I have season tickets and this is not true. Dirk+Luka had the stadium pretty packed most nights (with the exception of the obvious Tuesday night snoozers against teams like the Grizzlies or Knicks).Grapesoda2525 said:Nobody here expects the mavs to compete for a title this year.hph6203 said:
Most teams don't have two all-star caliber players that are under the age of 24, effectively or really locked up for 4 years. The idea is to identify guys that are between the ages of 22 and 30 that can survive/improve during the 3-4 years of growth of your star potential players development.
Seth Curry fits in that.
Danny Green fits in that.
Demarcus Cousins, if he can keep his mouth shut, fits in that.
You buy a 32 year old today, by the time Luka is entering his prime he's 35+ and ready to retire. The Mavs don't want a top of the line player that requires the ball in his hands to be impactful, it's why Brogdon was a better option than Kemba.
Build the foundation, walls and windows right now with quality depth and then put the Ferrari in the driveway when this team is already playoff caliber. A 27 year old you sign today will be a "vet" by the last year of his contract and our best players will still be 27 years old or younger.
Dirk is gone. The years of trying to win NOW are over, we have time to build slow and the right way. This team was never going to jump to legitimate contender status in one off-season.
I think what everyone was hoping for and dare I say expecting is for Cuban and Donnie to get enough free agents to compete for a playoff spot and have a team capable of filling the arena most nights. The fan base's interest in the team has been lethargic and the arena was half full for most games last year. If the fans aren't engaged and the team can't win at least close to 50 games a year with luka and porzingis, those guys aren't going to want to stay.
Excitment may have waned somewhat after the KP trade but that's understandable given it was a blatant 'white flag' on the playoffs. But before that and especially in the midst of that home stretch where we tied the record of consecutive home wins since '11, the place was bumping.
I'd guess that Green won't sign for anything less than $10m. Let's say he signs for $12m (talking in yr1 money, not total). That leaves us with $10m left.ghostofthebanned said:
trying to figure out if it'd even be possible to get 3 of these 4, or if we can only afford 2 (I'm thinking just 2 is more realistic...not sure what DG will go for):
Danny Green, marcus morris, cousins, quinn cook
If Kawhi goes to Toronto, it has been a monumentally disastrous off-season for the Lakers. Everyone else they could have spent money on is gone, they traded away their entire team for space for Kawhi and they don't have control of their own draft picks until 2026.2wealfth Man said:
Still no middle physical presence/ rebounding on the team. Cauley-Stein signed with the Warriors. If Kawhi goes back to Toronto then this has been a disastrous free agency period for the front office. It hinges on what Green ultimately decides to do. I think Cousins is a shadow of his former self physically; he would be a big risk.
I am sure Kawhi and LeBron had a deal in place months ago if not longer, just like LeBron and Wade did for MIami in 2010.ghostofthebanned said:
it's sounding more and more like LAC is falling out....looks like LAL or Toronto, but who knows with the weirdo we know as Kawhi
M.C. Swag said:I'd guess that Green won't sign for anything less than $10m. Let's say he signs for $12m (talking in yr1 money, not total). That leaves us with $10m left.ghostofthebanned said:
trying to figure out if it'd even be possible to get 3 of these 4, or if we can only afford 2 (I'm thinking just 2 is more realistic...not sure what DG will go for):
Danny Green, marcus morris, cousins, quinn cook
We could still throw a decent contract at Morris and offer Cousins a vet min (the most i'd go for). I have no idea what the market is for Cook but unless we do something with Lee's contract, I don't see how we can get 4 but 3 is definitely doable.
COAg15 said:
Disastrous? I'm not so sure. Disappointing, absolutely.
jeffdjohnson said:
Seth Curry / Danny Green / Marcus Morris / Boban / Re-up KP / Re-up Maxi / Re-up DFS and keeping Lee as an expiring trade chip would be among the best possible offseason iterations that the Mavs could have come up with. The Mavs would have a salty team next year. Everything seems to be leveraged on weirdo Kawhi though.
