I don't see anyone below the +5000 line winning it. That leaves the top 12 by oddsmakers. Squads like Croatia and Belgium seem like they're getting past their aging golden generations. I'd love to see the Dutch make the final after missing four years ago. They each have some issues or hesitations, but honestly, Brazil, France, and England have the most notable rosters IMO.
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I thought England would be a good candidate but was honestly a little underwhelmed when I saw their roster.
I'm married to a Brazilian, but when looking at their roster, I didn't recognize most of the team...hence the old feeling.
Guess I'm gonna go with france
I'm married to a Brazilian, but when looking at their roster, I didn't recognize most of the team...hence the old feeling.
Guess I'm gonna go with france
How does that work?
Brazil's roster is stacked with a bunch of the best players in the world playing at top clubs in the world.
They have two EPL keepers in Allison (Liverpool) and Ederson (Man City).
Midfielders Fabino (Liverpool), Fred (ManU), Cesemiro (ManU),
Forwards: Neymar (PSG), Vinicius Jr (Real Madrid), Antony (ManU), Richarlson (Tottenham), Gabriel Jesus (Arsenal)
They have three Juventus defenders plus defenders from PSG, Chelsea, Madrid, and Sevilla
They have two EPL keepers in Allison (Liverpool) and Ederson (Man City).
Midfielders Fabino (Liverpool), Fred (ManU), Cesemiro (ManU),
Forwards: Neymar (PSG), Vinicius Jr (Real Madrid), Antony (ManU), Richarlson (Tottenham), Gabriel Jesus (Arsenal)
They have three Juventus defenders plus defenders from PSG, Chelsea, Madrid, and Sevilla
I dont doubt that in any way. I dont get to watch ad much soccer anymore as unused to.
Pretty much arsenal and leeds.
I haven't watched a brazil game in a while. I'm just not up to date on a lot of their players
Pretty much arsenal and leeds.
I haven't watched a brazil game in a while. I'm just not up to date on a lot of their players
I actually think either France or Brazil will win (top two odds).
and yet you list three players on ManU and mention another that three players are at Juventus.oh no said:
Brazil's roster is stacked with a bunch of the best players in the world playing at top clubs in the world.
oh no said:
Brazil's roster is stacked with a bunch of the best players in the world playing at top clubs in the world.
They have two EPL keepers in Allison (Liverpool) and Ederson (Man City).
Midfielders Fabino (Liverpool), Fred (ManU), Cesemiro (ManU),
Forwards: Neymar (PSG), Vinicius Jr (Real Madrid), Antony (ManU), Richarlson (Tottenham), Gabriel Jesus (Arsenal)
They have three Juventus defenders plus defenders from PSG, Chelsea, Madrid, and Sevilla
I still have no idea why Richarlison was selected over Firmino. Bobby choppers has been killing it this year while the pigeon has been underwhelming.
I think the biggest thing for England is their back line. They may make a run but they won't win it all as they will get pillaged when playing a dynamic attack.
Bobby Bright Teeth had been long under-appreciated by the Brazilian NT coaches. As a LFC fan, I'm torn about his exclusion. Feel bad for him, but it's probably good for our club chances of clawing our way back into the top four.
jeffk said:
I actually think either France or Brazil will win (top two odds).
That's a pretty safe bet.
Correct
Meh. ManU and Juventus are a mess right now, but those are really good Intl players all on the Brazil roster. Fred hasn't been good, but Antony has looked legit and Casemiro is still a high level defender or CDM. ...and when you look at those three Juventus defenders on Brazil's WC roster, not sure how many will start, but add in Tiago and others and compare the overall Brazil defenders roster to almost any other WC roster, it's pretty damn good.tysker said:and yet you list three players on ManU and mention another that three players are at Juventus.oh no said:
Brazil's roster is stacked with a bunch of the best players in the world playing at top clubs in the world.
36 MLS players in Qatar:
Charlotte FC
Charlotte FC
- Karol Swiderski (F, Poland)
- Xherdan Shaqiri (M, Switzerland)
- Ronald Matarrita (D, Costa Rica)
- Daniel Chacn (D, Costa Rica | Colorado Rapids 2)
- Milos Degenek (D, Australia)
- Jesus Ferreira (F, USA)
- Hctor Herrera (M, Mexico)
- Kellyn Acosta (M, USA)
- Gareth Bale (F, Wales)
- Jos Cifuentes (M, Ecuador)
- Sebastian Mndez (M, Ecuador)
- Diego Palacios (D, Ecuador)
- Martn Cceres (D, Uruguay)
- DeAndre Yedlin (D, USA)
- Dayne St. Clair (GK, Canada)
- Alistair Johnston (D, Canada)
- Ismal Kon (M, Canada)
- Kamal Miller (D, Canada)
- James Pantemis (GK, Canada)
- Samuel Piette (M, Canada
- Joel Waterman (D, Canada)
- Shaq Moore (D, USA)
- Walker Zimmerman (D, USA)
- Sean Johnson (GK, USA)
- Aaron Long (D, USA)
- Facundo Torres (F, Uruguay)
- Olivier Mbaizo (D, Cameroon)
- Bryan Oviedo (D, Costa Rica)
- Xavier Arreaga (D, Ecuador)
- Jordan Morris (F, USA)
- Cristian Roldan (M, USA)
- Nouhou Tolo (D, Cameroon)
- Mark-Anthony Kaye (M, Canada)
- Richie Laryea (D, Canada)
- Jonathan Osorio (M, Canada)
- Lucas Cavallini (F, Canada)
oh no said:
Brazil's roster is stacked with a bunch of the best players in the world playing at top clubs in the world.
They have two EPL keepers in Allison (Liverpool) and Ederson (Man City).
Midfielders Fabino (Liverpool), Fred (ManU), Cesemiro (ManU),
Forwards: Neymar (PSG), Vinicius Jr (Real Madrid), Antony (ManU), Richarlson (Tottenham), Gabriel Jesus (Arsenal)
They have three Juventus defenders plus defenders from PSG, Chelsea, Madrid, and Sevilla
Martinelli [Arsenal] is better than Richarlson and is also on the Brazil squad. If I were the Brazil coach I'd look to start 5 of those forwards (not richarlson) and just have them take up whatever spot they wanted. Great 1v1 dribbling and interlink play would have them scoring 2 goals a game at least.
I don't know what's going on with Richarlson the last six months at Tottenham. He was really good last year at Everton. The Brazil coaches just saw him score 3 goals in their two September friendlies in WC prep though - with him playing up top as #9 and Neymar at #10 behind him.
Not surprising overall.
I am surprised about MLS over Championship.
Premier League 136
La Liga 83
Bundesliga 76
Serie A 68
Ligue 1 54
Major League Soccer 36
Saudi Pro League 33
Qatar Stars League 33
EFL Championship 26
Liga MX 23
I am surprised about MLS over Championship.
Premier League 136
La Liga 83
Bundesliga 76
Serie A 68
Ligue 1 54
Major League Soccer 36
Saudi Pro League 33
Qatar Stars League 33
EFL Championship 26
Liga MX 23
I think France is in too much turmoil to go far in the tournament but I think they win their group.
Brazil is loaded with talent and I think they pull it off but I think Argentina, England, and the Netherlands all have good chances too. Brazil looks to have the strongest roster.
I've played with this simulator a few times recently. Fun and kill some time through the day!
https://worldsoccertalk.com/predictor/#group=h
Brazil is loaded with talent and I think they pull it off but I think Argentina, England, and the Netherlands all have good chances too. Brazil looks to have the strongest roster.
I've played with this simulator a few times recently. Fun and kill some time through the day!
https://worldsoccertalk.com/predictor/#group=h
I think the winner of Argentina/Brazil semi will win the WC, assuming form holds.
I imagine that most Championship players are English or European, so they're in the AAA compared to their national team players. MLS is probably hands-downs more appealing than the Ecuadorian or Uruguayan leagues. I could be VERY wrong about this as well.Ken Scarborough said:
Not surprising overall.
I am surprised about MLS over Championship.
Premier League 136
La Liga 83
Bundesliga 76
Serie A 68
Ligue 1 54
Major League Soccer 36
Saudi Pro League 33
Qatar Stars League 33
EFL Championship 26
Liga MX 23
If you say you hate the state of politics in this nation and you don't get involved in it, you obviously don't hate the state of politics in this nation.
It's more Canada.
11 Canadians
9 Americans
7 South Americans
3 Euros
2 Central Americans
2 Africans
1 Asia Pac
1 Mexican
11 Canadians
9 Americans
7 South Americans
3 Euros
2 Central Americans
2 Africans
1 Asia Pac
1 Mexican
Not sure how many of those Toronto guys start for the Canadian NT but that's really good for chemistry, on and off the field.
Montreal has 6 Canadian national team players on their Qatar roster and Toronto has 3. Yes, lots of chemistry and training hours together. ..and we know from WC qualifying, Canada can play.
Kinda like Spain's NT use to be primarily dominated by Barca and Real.
Germany has had Bayern which normally has 4-5 guys.
oh no said:
Montreal has 6 Canadian national team players on their Qatar roster and Toronto has 3. Yes, lots of chemistry and training hours together. ..and we know from WC qualifying, Canada can play.
They play team soccer way better than we did.
Well, they played a specific style, which is similar to how we used to play.
I think they have a chance ot advance from group, but we are attempting to move on from it because you place a ceiling on yourself with it. (generally speaking)
I think they have a chance ot advance from group, but we are attempting to move on from it because you place a ceiling on yourself with it. (generally speaking)
They play CONCACAF soccer better than we do, super curious to see how they do against teams like Belgium and Croatia.Ken Scarborough said:oh no said:
Montreal has 6 Canadian national team players on their Qatar roster and Toronto has 3. Yes, lots of chemistry and training hours together. ..and we know from WC qualifying, Canada can play.
They play team soccer way better than we did.
It's a small sample size as well. This is basically Canada's golden generation team.
The MLS has helped Canada as well as the US.jeffk said:
It's a small sample size as well. This is basically Canada's golden generation team.
I think the improvements in youth development in the US extended to Canada.
So how does that matter when they're 2-1-1 in the last 4 meetings against us.fig96 said:They play CONCACAF soccer better than we do, super curious to see how they do against teams like Belgium and Croatia.Ken Scarborough said:oh no said:
Montreal has 6 Canadian national team players on their Qatar roster and Toronto has 3. Yes, lots of chemistry and training hours together. ..and we know from WC qualifying, Canada can play.
They play team soccer way better than we did.
imo, MLS has helped development for every CONCACAF nation in some way (Mexico may be the odd man out, but MLS plays their NT players a damn good salary)Ken Scarborough said:The MLS has helped Canada as well as the US.jeffk said:
It's a small sample size as well. This is basically Canada's golden generation team.
I think the improvements in youth development in the US extended to Canada.
I mean, all that matters in qualifying is getting out and we did. The tournament is where it all counts.Ken Scarborough said:So how does that matter when they're 2-1-1 in the last 4 meetings against us.fig96 said:They play CONCACAF soccer better than we do, super curious to see how they do against teams like Belgium and Croatia.Ken Scarborough said:oh no said:
Montreal has 6 Canadian national team players on their Qatar roster and Toronto has 3. Yes, lots of chemistry and training hours together. ..and we know from WC qualifying, Canada can play.
They play team soccer way better than we did.
I think we're built (in theory) to play much better against euro squads and they're built to play a more CONCACAF style. We'll see how that plays out.
Yup, they've got a perfect storm happening right now.jeffk said:
It's a small sample size as well. This is basically Canada's golden generation team.
I would say that, but there are only 3 from Costa Rica that play in MLS.tysker said:imo, MLS has helped development for every CONCACAF nation in some way (Mexico may be the odd man out, but MLS plays their NT players a damn good salary)Ken Scarborough said:The MLS has helped Canada as well as the US.jeffk said:
It's a small sample size as well. This is basically Canada's golden generation team.
I think the improvements in youth development in the US extended to Canada.