Thrilled we get this for another game...or two.
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Thrilled we get this for another game...or two.
That looks unnatural, some uncanny valley type of ****
THE_CHOSEN_ONE said:
That looks unnatural, some uncanny valley type of ****
I agree. It's TERRIBLE.
...tell my wife I said that!
More good press for Qatar. Brib8ng EU officials, allegedly. Hope fifa is happy
https://news.yahoo.com/eu-parliaments-credibility-rocked-qatar-123414535.html
https://news.yahoo.com/eu-parliaments-credibility-rocked-qatar-123414535.html
FIFPRO is shocked and sickened by reports that professional footballer Amir Nasr-Azadani faces execution in Iran after campaigning for women’s rights and basic freedom in his country.
— FIFPRO (@FIFPRO) December 12, 2022
We stand in solidarity with Amir and call for the immediate removal of his punishment. pic.twitter.com/vPuylCS2ph
While I fully admit get the IRI is full on totalitarian and they have massive internal issues now, I can't see this happening. If they do, FIFA would immediately expel them, the IOC would expel them, every other international sporting group would expel them and even the UN would impose sanctions. Most importantly that would actually have a decent chance of making a full on uprising in Iran and they have all they can handle now.
Yeah, I don't know how much stock to put into the "reports" either. They could be legit, they could be legit in reporting that the govt has made that threat to the player, or they could be deadass wrong. Hoping for the third option, but these players definitely aren't going home to medium-stakes arguments about effort and playing time.
When killing and protesting have the same penalty, there's nothing left to stop you from killing.
I think he should respect the laws of his country and not try to impose 3000 years of European cultural domination in his country. /infantino
So, whenever I see people say extreme athletic people can't play soccer, I bring up Mbappe.
This is crazy. But look where CP10 is.
This is crazy. But look where CP10 is.
Pulisic's neighborhood on the chart 👀 https://t.co/VIDrsraTJ9
— scuffed (@scuffedpod) December 14, 2022
You can also see why France is so good, Giroud, Griezman, Dembele are all at near the best
I don't think anyone says extremely athletic people can't play soccer, just that being extremely athletic doesn't automatically mean that you will be good at soccer.
The fact that Pulisic is next to Neymar and Messi in that chart makes it laughable.
Usain Bolt tried to play soccer and wasn't going to just slide right into Dortmund's squad. He got some publicity trials in some of Europe's top clubs then failed to make a team in Australia or something. ...but it wasn't because he's too athletic. Had he been developing soccer skills from a young age, he's be amazing at soccer. Soccer touch on the ball, turns, change of speed moves, change of direction moves, decision making and problem solving quickly, etc. requires a lifetime of development that only comes from training and playing a lot of soccer. The most athletic humans on earth can't just pick it up and be good quickly.
Far different than say, American football, where robots are programmed what to do, when, and how and just being athletic means you can be good at football. You see basketball players move over to football as 11th graders and end up in the NFL in 5 years. Not possible with soccer.
Far different than say, American football, where robots are programmed what to do, when, and how and just being athletic means you can be good at football. You see basketball players move over to football as 11th graders and end up in the NFL in 5 years. Not possible with soccer.
THE_CHOSEN_ONE said:
I don't think anyone says extremely athletic people can't play soccer, just that being extremely athletic doesn't automatically mean that you will be good at soccer.
Dude you see it all the time.
Mathguy64 said:
The fact that Pulisic is next to Neymar and Messi in that chart makes it laughable.
Why?
The proximity is probably due to more of a function of how CP10 is the focal point of the USMNT under Berhalter; an over reliance on CP10 in our attack.Mathguy64 said:
The fact that Pulisic is next to Neymar and Messi in that chart makes it laughable.
"And liberals, being liberals, will double down on failure." - dedgod
Because he's not in the same class of player as Messi or Neymar.Chuck Cunningham said:Mathguy64 said:
The fact that Pulisic is next to Neymar and Messi in that chart makes it laughable.
Why?
No one said he was. But his numbers per 90 in those categories were similar.Mathguy64 said:Because he's not in the same class of player as Messi or Neymar.Chuck Cunningham said:Mathguy64 said:
The fact that Pulisic is next to Neymar and Messi in that chart makes it laughable.
Why?
Really? The only thing remotely similar that I've ever seen is when people say that tall guys like Lebron would fail. Which is absolutely true.Chuck Cunningham said:THE_CHOSEN_ONE said:
I don't think anyone says extremely athletic people can't play soccer, just that being extremely athletic doesn't automatically mean that you will be good at soccer.
Dude you see it all the time.
No one over 6'6" is going to have the stamina to run the distances involved in a soccer game.
I'm curious who our unlabeled player in the middle between Eriksen and Jin-Su is. Adams maybe?
Someone on twitter said McKennie.
deadbq03 said:Really? The only thing remotely similar that I've ever seen is when people say that tall guys like Lebron would fail. Which is absolutely true.Chuck Cunningham said:THE_CHOSEN_ONE said:
I don't think anyone says extremely athletic people can't play soccer, just that being extremely athletic doesn't automatically mean that you will be good at soccer.
Dude you see it all the time.
No one over 6'6" is going to have the stamina to run the distances involved in a soccer game.
Haaland and Zlatan are both 6'5" and Peter Crouch is 6'7". I'm sure lebron could have been very good at soccer had he spent his whole life playing soccer instead of basketball. Many tall NBA players have very good stamina, it's all about training for a certain type of activity. Being tall doesn't prevent you from developing strong stamina.
Chuck Cunningham said:THE_CHOSEN_ONE said:
I don't think anyone says extremely athletic people can't play soccer, just that being extremely athletic doesn't automatically mean that you will be good at soccer.
Dude you see it all the time.
I have really never seen or heard that. Do you have any examples of anyone saying that?
Next time I see one I'll comment here.
THE_CHOSEN_ONE said:deadbq03 said:Really? The only thing remotely similar that I've ever seen is when people say that tall guys like Lebron would fail. Which is absolutely true.Chuck Cunningham said:THE_CHOSEN_ONE said:
I don't think anyone says extremely athletic people can't play soccer, just that being extremely athletic doesn't automatically mean that you will be good at soccer.
Dude you see it all the time.
No one over 6'6" is going to have the stamina to run the distances involved in a soccer game.
Haaland and Zlatan are both 6'5" and Peter Crouch is 6'7". I'm sure lebron could have been very good at soccer had he spent his whole life playing soccer instead of basketball. Many tall NBA players have very good stamina, it's all about training for a certain type of activity. Being tall doesn't prevent you from developing strong stamina.
And they would have a different body type from playing a different sport.
It's a fact the majority of our best athletes do not play the game.
I always compare Jalen Waddle and Mbappe. They're the same height but Jalen is heavier since he plays football.
The problem most people have is they don't understand the body types would change if they were playing a different sport.
Exceptions are exceptional. I'll rephrase… Extreme height in either direction is absolutely sub-optimal for both stamina and top speed.THE_CHOSEN_ONE said:deadbq03 said:Really? The only thing remotely similar that I've ever seen is when people say that tall guys like Lebron would fail. Which is absolutely true.Chuck Cunningham said:THE_CHOSEN_ONE said:
I don't think anyone says extremely athletic people can't play soccer, just that being extremely athletic doesn't automatically mean that you will be good at soccer.
Dude you see it all the time.
No one over 6'6" is going to have the stamina to run the distances involved in a soccer game.
Haaland and Zlatan are both 6'5" and Peter Crouch is 6'7". I'm sure lebron could have been very good at soccer had he spent his whole life playing soccer instead of basketball. Many tall NBA players have very good stamina, it's all about training for a certain type of activity. Being tall doesn't prevent you from developing strong stamina.
I get you on body type, and agree with you… there definitely are some folks who make the argument that athletes in US sports are too swole to play soccer. I wouldn't call that an argument about athleticism, but I guess it's probably synonymous in some contexts. And you're right, if they trained differently, they wouldn't be hampered by the extra weight.Chuck Cunningham said:THE_CHOSEN_ONE said:deadbq03 said:Really? The only thing remotely similar that I've ever seen is when people say that tall guys like Lebron would fail. Which is absolutely true.Chuck Cunningham said:THE_CHOSEN_ONE said:
I don't think anyone says extremely athletic people can't play soccer, just that being extremely athletic doesn't automatically mean that you will be good at soccer.
Dude you see it all the time.
No one over 6'6" is going to have the stamina to run the distances involved in a soccer game.
Haaland and Zlatan are both 6'5" and Peter Crouch is 6'7". I'm sure lebron could have been very good at soccer had he spent his whole life playing soccer instead of basketball. Many tall NBA players have very good stamina, it's all about training for a certain type of activity. Being tall doesn't prevent you from developing strong stamina.
And they would have a different body type from playing a different sport.
It's a fact the majority of our best athletes do not play the game.
I always compare Jalen Waddle and Mbappe. They're the same height but Jalen is heavier since he plays football.
The problem most people have is they don't understand the body types would change if they were playing a different sport.
But extreme height is a physical restriction. Full stop.
Usain Bolt is 6-5…deadbq03 said:Exceptions are exceptional. I'll rephrase… Extreme height in either direction is absolutely sub-optimal for both stamina and top speed.THE_CHOSEN_ONE said:deadbq03 said:Really? The only thing remotely similar that I've ever seen is when people say that tall guys like Lebron would fail. Which is absolutely true.Chuck Cunningham said:THE_CHOSEN_ONE said:
I don't think anyone says extremely athletic people can't play soccer, just that being extremely athletic doesn't automatically mean that you will be good at soccer.
Dude you see it all the time.
No one over 6'6" is going to have the stamina to run the distances involved in a soccer game.
Haaland and Zlatan are both 6'5" and Peter Crouch is 6'7". I'm sure lebron could have been very good at soccer had he spent his whole life playing soccer instead of basketball. Many tall NBA players have very good stamina, it's all about training for a certain type of activity. Being tall doesn't prevent you from developing strong stamina.
And not 6'8".
Oh, I see now… you're right.
I just think its a lazy argument because we arent struggling do to a lack of athleticism.
Our 13 top players were as good or as equal to most of the teams in the World cup. The difference is that 14-26 are not. Our training is catching up with the rest of the world. If we have more playing the game, we'd have a bigger pool of players good enough to play international soccer at a higher level.PatAg said:
I just think its a lazy argument because we arent struggling do to a lack of athleticism.
They need to get rid of the 3rd place game.
Jet Black said:
They need to get rid of the 3rd place game.
Counterpoint: it's typically one of the best, most fun games of the whole tournament.
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