Is this crest change actually real? Why not go with a complete rainbow kit?
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took a bad crest and made it worse.
If the teams identifies as women, do they get to add stars to the crest also?
If the teams identifies as women, do they get to add stars to the crest also?
Yeah, I'm super worried about what Iran's state sponsored media's opinion of the US is.
In a sense I get this because they're trying to make a statement when they can't actually make a statement.
That said, this is their fault in the first place for not voicing a strong opposition to this when it mattered so doing something now just comes off as totally performative. Also, per the article it won't be on our kits.
That said, this is their fault in the first place for not voicing a strong opposition to this when it mattered so doing something now just comes off as totally performative. Also, per the article it won't be on our kits.
It is real. My understanding is it won't be on their jerseys but will just be at some locations like their training facility.KCup17 said:
Is this crest change actually real? Why not go with a complete rainbow kit?
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I mean….it couldn't possibly be worse than the current kits….KCup17 said:
Is this crest change actually real? Why not go with a complete rainbow kit?
It will not be on the kits, and everything coming out from US Soccer right now on their website, social media, etc. is using the normal red crest. Players all wearing the normal red crest in training.ThunderCougarFalconBird said:I mean….it couldn't possibly be worse than the current kits….KCup17 said:
Is this crest change actually real? Why not go with a complete rainbow kit?
Sounds like they're putting it up in places in Qatar for the locals to enjoy as they work or drive by. And really nothig more.
Agthatbuilds said:
Why does the ussf make it so hard?
We're still doing phrasing, right?
If the message meant for the people gets exploited and twisted by the state sponsored media, what was the purpose?
TXAggie2011 said:It will not be on the kits, and everything coming out from US Soccer right now on their website, social media, etc. is using the normal red crest. Players all wearing the normal red crest in training.ThunderCougarFalconBird said:I mean….it couldn't possibly be worse than the current kits….KCup17 said:
Is this crest change actually real? Why not go with a complete rainbow kit?
Sounds like they're putting it up in places in Qatar for the locals to enjoy as they work or drive by. And really nothig more.
Even worse
Well, my wife scheduled family pictures Monday at 3:15 and my daughter has a game Friday at 4pm.
The 170ish odd countries that don't have state controlled media?
TXAggie2011 said:It will not be on the kits, and everything coming out from US Soccer right now on their website, social media, etc. is using the normal red crest. Players all wearing the normal red crest in training.ThunderCougarFalconBird said:I mean….it couldn't possibly be worse than the current kits….KCup17 said:
Is this crest change actually real? Why not go with a complete rainbow kit?
Sounds like they're putting it up in places in Qatar for the locals to enjoy as they work or drive by. And really nothig more.
Everything I've seen on this so far makes it seem like the press room inside the USMNT practice facility in Qatar is the main place the pride badge is featured. So basically it'll be on media videos shot there and that's really about it.
Sorry if this was already posted but it's a great interview with Jesse Marsch. They cover EPL stuff and also a lot of USMNT talk. Not sure where to post it so I just picked here!
Damn I really like this guy.
Damn I really like this guy.
Agthatbuilds said:TXAggie2011 said:It will not be on the kits, and everything coming out from US Soccer right now on their website, social media, etc. is using the normal red crest. Players all wearing the normal red crest in training.ThunderCougarFalconBird said:I mean….it couldn't possibly be worse than the current kits….KCup17 said:
Is this crest change actually real? Why not go with a complete rainbow kit?
Sounds like they're putting it up in places in Qatar for the locals to enjoy as they work or drive by. And really nothig more.
Even worse
If you're upset about it in the first place, I would think its limited use in Qatar itself would be better, not worse
No, it's worse because the ussf isn't brave enough to put it on their jersey. They arent brave enough to not show up.
It's virtue signaling to the extreme and a half assed attempt of actually doing something.
This tells me they don't care about actually changing anything . They just care about scoring points for their political team.
It's virtue signaling to the extreme and a half assed attempt of actually doing something.
This tells me they don't care about actually changing anything . They just care about scoring points for their political team.
Really looks like they are trying to be "bold" and make a statement but will only place the crest in very low stakes positions. Wish we would sack up like the bundesliga fans and actually do something about it. But alas we live in a bark no bite world.
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No, it's worse because the ussf isn't brave enough to put it on their jersey. They arent brave enough to not show up.
It's virtue signaling to the extreme and a half assed attempt of actually doing something.
This tells me they don't care about actually changing anything . They just care about scoring points for their political team.
Most of the "virtue signaling" efforts you're seeing right now are coming collectively from the players. They've been pretty vocal about their concerns and wanting to show some solidarity and this is what they've come up with so far. (There might also be some more public displays once the games start, we'll see.)
Could they have been more brave and boycotted the WC entirely? Yeah, of course. But I'm betting that still would be labeled virtue signaling by some. Also, I'm willing to give the players and fans a little grace in showing their displeasure - they've had the biggest event in their professional lives hijacked by the corruption of FIFA and the greed of federations and corporate sponsors who didn't use their influence to demand better.
I agree with Lloris.
Let the players play.
Let the players play.
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Keep your politics on personal time. Keep your job on job time. Don't hijack an event to express your political views, especially when you are there representing your very diverse country.
If you want to protest, use your celebrity to do so on your own time. Or don't show up.
Kellen Mond was a great example of this. He played hard and repped our school with he best of them. He also participated in political movements on his own time. All good.
At best, usmnt players are sellouts to fifa. At worst, they are cowards only willing to take the absolute smallest of risk to spread a political message.
Keep your politics on personal time. Keep your job on job time. Don't hijack an event to express your political views, especially when you are there representing your very diverse country.
If you want to protest, use your celebrity to do so on your own time. Or don't show up.
Kellen Mond was a great example of this. He played hard and repped our school with he best of them. He also participated in political movements on his own time. All good.
At best, usmnt players are sellouts to fifa. At worst, they are cowards only willing to take the absolute smallest of risk to spread a political message.
I get that a man has to have a code. But I wonder: do you enjoy watching sports?
When do y'all want the first USMNT game thread?
Of course. I like watching sports, not political activists.
Granted, I liked sports a lot more before the huge increase in activism.
That said, the real mood killer for me is VAR and instant replay. Sports was far far far superior before these came about. Its such a microcosm of today's world.
Granted, I liked sports a lot more before the huge increase in activism.
That said, the real mood killer for me is VAR and instant replay. Sports was far far far superior before these came about. Its such a microcosm of today's world.
You can't dodge the blame by trying to be democratic.jeffk said:
When do y'all want the first USMNT game thread?
Make it when you want, and we might give you some credit if we win, but we'll definitely blame you if we lose.
I would expect nothing less.
How about Sunday at 4AM?jeffk said:
When do y'all want the first USMNT game thread?
I couldn't care about the activism, but I tend to agree with VAR and replay.Agthatbuilds said:
Of course. I like watching sports, not political activists.
Granted, I liked sports a lot more before the huge increase in activism.
That said, the real mood killer for me is VAR and instant replay. Sports was far far far superior before these came about. Its such a microcosm of today's world.
My thing is, they take way too long, and they are not always correct.
If you can't tell watching it a couple of times in real time, then the play stands.
Move along.
Ken Scarborough said:How about Sunday at 4AM?jeffk said:
When do y'all want the first USMNT game thread?
How about no?
Anyway......
Who is winning this thing?
Went through the rosters of the big teams and I feel.....old.
Who is winning this thing?
Went through the rosters of the big teams and I feel.....old.
2022 World Cup odds
Brazil +400
France +600
Argentina +650
England +700
Spain +800
Germany +1000
Belgium +1200
Netherlands +1200
Portugal +1200
Denmark +2800
Croatia +5000
Uruguay +5000
Senegal +8000
Switzerland +8000
Mexico +10000
USA +10000
Poland +10000
Serbia +10000
Wales +10000
Ghana +15000
Ecuador +15000
Morocco +20000
Cameroon +25000
Canada +25000
Japan +25000
Qatar +25000
South Korea +25000
Tunisia +30000
Australia +40000
Costa Rica +50000
Iran +50000
Saudi Arabia +50000
I would have picked Italy. But they aren't making the trip.Agthatbuilds said:
Anyway......
Who is winning this thing?
Went through the rosters of the big teams and I feel.....old.
I don't think any of the top 5 favorites are winning it.
Obligatory we are gonna shock the world!
Obligatory we are gonna shock the world!