I just don't get why Kendall would blow the deal and cost himself billions of dollars. There's got to be more than just to spite his dad
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Why would Logan cut out Gerri?
She and Hugo watching that video was hysterical.
She and Hugo watching that video was hysterical.
Not sure I can really believe Roman falling for this again.
Clarke95 said:
Why would Logan cut out Gerri?
She and Hugo watching that video was hysterical.
I think it's because he thinks she's already considering herself as working for GoJo based on his comments when they were in the conference room
This is one of the greatest shows of all time.
That was season-finale-level drama. In episode two.
That was season-finale-level drama. In episode two.
Proposition Joe said:
Not sure I can really believe Roman falling for this again.
I absolutely can. It's Roman's Achilles heel, his fatal flaw. But the thing is, for the first time, I too actually believed Logan. They spent a chunk of the episode *showing* us just how lax and poorly run ATN is, and Roman legit *would* be great at whipping that place into shape. I think that's the irony of the whole thing, is that what Logan said to Roman is actually true this time.
I'm with this. Logan's seen the fat underbelly and wants to actually re-form, but he's out of time and allies, family's all that's left. Whether or not Roman can/will jump in again, I can't wait to see.
I don't know about y'all, but I feel pretty cheated that we only got one karaoke song.
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Great Ep2! Many good lines but has Shiv's ass gotten bigger since season 3?
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TCTTS said:Proposition Joe said:
Not sure I can really believe Roman falling for this again.
I absolutely can. It's Roman's Achilles heel, his fatal flaw. But the thing is, for the first time, I too actually believed Logan. They spent a chunk of the episode *showing* us just how lax and poorly run ATN is, and Roman legit *would* be great at whipping that place into shape. I think that's the irony of the whole thing, is that what Logan said to Roman is actually true this time.
I get that it's Roman's weakness.. But at a certain point "Kid X is fooled once again that Logan is going to really give them significant power" kinda becomes repetitive.
Hopefully it's just setting up a stage where Roman grows a backbone and tells his Dad he's out.
I think it has to pay off in a real way this time, otherwise it feels repetitive and meaningless. Pay off with Logan actually giving him autonomous control and pay off with Gerri being out of the picture.Proposition Joe said:TCTTS said:Proposition Joe said:
Not sure I can really believe Roman falling for this again.
I absolutely can. It's Roman's Achilles heel, his fatal flaw. But the thing is, for the first time, I too actually believed Logan. They spent a chunk of the episode *showing* us just how lax and poorly run ATN is, and Roman legit *would* be great at whipping that place into shape. I think that's the irony of the whole thing, is that what Logan said to Roman is actually true this time.
I get that it's Roman's weakness.. But at a certain point "Kid X is fooled once again that Logan is going to really give them significant power" kinda becomes repetitive.
Hopefully it's just setting up a stage where Roman grows a backbone and tells his Dad he's out.
I don't know how this deal is going to go, but I feel like we got a glimpse of the end game of Roman in this episode.
Also, what is with the Kerry audition? That has to be a trial balloon from Logan to see who at ATN are yes men and who are not, right?
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Clarke95 said:
Why would Logan cut out Gerri?
She and Hugo watching that video was hysterical.
I think you answered your own question. Logan believed she was laughing at his new squeeze, that's enough for Jaws to swallow her whole. Well, if Jaws was wearing sunglasses indoors and everyone reported to him.
MaroonStain said:
Great Ep2! Many good lines but has Shiv's ass gotten bigger since season 3?
It has but I'd still love to hit it.
BowSowy said:I think it has to pay off in a real way this time, otherwise it feels repetitive and meaningless. Pay off with Logan actually giving him autonomous control and pay off with Gerri being out of the picture.Proposition Joe said:TCTTS said:Proposition Joe said:
Not sure I can really believe Roman falling for this again.
I absolutely can. It's Roman's Achilles heel, his fatal flaw. But the thing is, for the first time, I too actually believed Logan. They spent a chunk of the episode *showing* us just how lax and poorly run ATN is, and Roman legit *would* be great at whipping that place into shape. I think that's the irony of the whole thing, is that what Logan said to Roman is actually true this time.
I get that it's Roman's weakness.. But at a certain point "Kid X is fooled once again that Logan is going to really give them significant power" kinda becomes repetitive.
Hopefully it's just setting up a stage where Roman grows a backbone and tells his Dad he's out.
I don't know how this deal is going to go, but I feel like we got a glimpse of the end game of Roman in this episode.
Some legit great acting by Culkin at the end of this episode. Damn he was entranced and wanted to believe his dad.
As much as I wanted a fifth and final season, I do admit that the feel of finality to this season so far is really working for me, and that it would have been a challenge to stretch all of this out for two full seasons. It feels right that it's all crescendoing now, in exactly this way, with this final Logan-vs-the-kids battle. They maybe could have gotten away with pulling a Mad Men or Breaking Bad and doing a final, extended season, divided up into two, eight-episode halves or something, but probably not.
That said, it's already driving my OCD insane that season three was only nine episodes, and that the series is going to end with 39 episodes instead of an even 40. I almost wish they would have done 11 this season to make up for it.
That said, it's already driving my OCD insane that season three was only nine episodes, and that the series is going to end with 39 episodes instead of an even 40. I almost wish they would have done 11 this season to make up for it.
Through two episodes, he's definitely my MVP so far.
This show is so great. It's so hard to tell what is genuine, what is a play, and what is a mix of both.
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The Milkman said:
I just don't get why Kendall would blow the deal and cost himself billions of dollars. There's got to be more than just to spite his dad
I read it more as wanting to spite Mattson as well. And maybe he wants to call his bluff.
MaroonStain said:
Great Ep2! Many good lines but has Shiv's ass gotten bigger since season 3?
She was pregnant, I thought. But she is pregnant now. So who knows.
Thos outfits are not doing her any favors.
Roman might be the most interesting and emotionally complex character on the show. I absolutely believe he's ready to jump back in with his dad. He's been a victim of abuse his entire life and loves his abuser.
Btw that Roman line was tragically hilarious.
"Oh, no, everyone hits me. I'm ****ing annoying."
"Oh, no, everyone hits me. I'm ****ing annoying."
Danke schoen or twist and shout?
BowSowy said:
Also, what is with the Kerry audition? That has to be a trial balloon from Logan to see who at ATN are yes men and who are not, right?
That was my original thought, but they are certainly playing that as a misdirection as they went out of their way to show Kerry reacting to the kids telling her that Logan is going to betray her like all the others. On the walk back out to the car you could tell she was absolutely thinking about things. Could be a big misdirection though.
"I am going to take you apart like a human string cheese". God bless Greg.
Can someone explain to me why Kendall doesn't want the deal to go through?
Unless there is something explicit that I've missed, I'm not sure there has been a stated reason.rynning said:
Can someone explain to me why Kendall doesn't want the deal to go through?
I had the same question and after sleeping on it, my thinking is that Kendall is "the businessman" and has always seen himself as the big mover and shaker of the bunch.
When Mattson calls and basically tries to big dog him, Kendall doesn't want to be a pushover and sees this as a chance to make a "better" deal than his dad, at least when it comes to the numbers.
I think what Logan is trying to teach the kids in the karaoke room (presuming it's even partially genuine) is that sometimes the "best" deal isn't the one that is worth the most money - it's the one that is on the table.
For all their gripes with their dad, and you hear Shiv talk about it in hilarious fashion with him being the "human gaslight" or whatever - he is 100 times the shrewd businessman any of them will ever be but they just can't separate business from personal to listen to him.
He's wanted to be the force his dad was since the start of the show - Mattson treated him like he was still "Logan's kid", and Kendall believes that Mattson never would have made a push like that to his old man (at least not in his prime).
Could be that Kerry actually wants it to be a reality, and Logan is using it as a trial balloon.Proposition Joe said:BowSowy said:
Also, what is with the Kerry audition? That has to be a trial balloon from Logan to see who at ATN are yes men and who are not, right?
That was my original thought, but they are certainly playing that as a misdirection as they went out of their way to show Kerry reacting to the kids telling her that Logan is going to betray her like all the others. On the walk back out to the car you could tell she was absolutely thinking about things. Could be a big misdirection though.
"I am going to take you apart like a human string cheese". God bless Greg.
Brian Earl Spilner said:The Milkman said:
I just don't get why Kendall would blow the deal and cost himself billions of dollars. There's got to be more than just to spite his dad
I read it more as wanting to spite Mattson as well. And maybe he wants to call his bluff.
I saw it as Kendall detecting weakness in Mattson's position, which is why he immediately asked Stewie for the valuation comps.
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