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He was alive when Charlores was speaking to Stubbs before getting on the boat. The other qa chick said something to the effect of an important person being found alive and in bad shape. It showed William moving.

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But the one thing we did pop in that did jump out of that time sequence was the storyline with the Man in Black. For the majority of the season, we're seeing him in the same timeline as everybody else. He's in the park as hell has unleashed. He goes a bit mad as he thinks about his past, as he journeys into the Valley Beyond. He kills his daughter, not sure whether she's his daughter or a host. Ultimately, we see him on the shore, as Hale or "Halores," as we like to call her leaves the park. We see that he has survived that final arm injury he's had. That rounds out that timeline.

What we see in the end recontextualizes a little bit of that. All of that did happen in that timeline, but something else has occurred, too. In the far, far future, the world is dramatically different. Quite destroyed, as it were. A figure in the image of his daughter his daughter is of course now long dead has come back to talk to him. He realizes that he's been living this loop again and again and again. The primal loop that we've seen this season, they've been repeating, testing every time for what they call "fidelity," or perhaps a deviation. You get the sense that the testing will continue. It's teasing for us another temporal realm that one day we're working toward, and one day will see a little bit more of, and how they get to that place, and what they're testing for.

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bobinator said:

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So this goes back to the "it's plausible, but it would have been nice if they either left it out or explained it on screen."

She actually does kind of know what William is going to do. She's been around him A LOT so maybe she knows that at distance he's going to shoot for the body and he would only shoot at the head at very close range which is why she doesn't walk right up to him until she knows he only has the one shot left.

But yeah, that's another example of just an unnecessary complication of the plot.

Another way they could have written around that would be for the MIB to always use a rifle when he's shooting from distance or on horseback and only try to use his pistol once they're dismounted and he's shooting at Dolores. That way it would make some sense that she sabotaged his pistol knowing that she would be the only one he would be close enough to be trying to shoot with it or something.

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bobinator said:

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So this goes back to the "it's plausible, but it would have been nice if they either left it out or explained it on screen."

She actually does kind of know what William is going to do. She's been around him A LOT so maybe she knows that at distance he's going to shoot for the body and he would only shoot at the head at very close range which is why she doesn't walk right up to him until she knows he only has the one shot left.

But yeah, that's another example of just an unnecessary complication of the plot.

Another way they could have written around that would be for the MIB to always use a rifle when he's shooting from distance or on horseback and only try to use his pistol once they're dismounted and he's shooting at Dolores. That way it would make some sense that she sabotaged his pistol knowing that she would be the only one he would be close enough to be trying to shoot with it or something.

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Could be wrong here but I thought she tampered with his center chamber bullet. Bigger round, may be threatening to her, while the rest are not?

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Brian Earl Spilner said:

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To be honest, they should've just left out the post-credits scene. (Maybe used it as the S3 opener.)

It unnecessarily complicates an already confusing plot, and adds nothing to the story told in S2.

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Brian Earl Spilner said:

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To be honest, they should've just left out the post-credits scene. (Maybe used it as the S3 opener.)

It unnecessarily complicates an already confusing plot, and adds nothing to the story told in S2.

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bobinator said:

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Ha, I do read a lot of theories online.

I'm just saying that as long as you're keeping a physical representation of all of the characters and events on your living room wall with strings keeping the various timelines straight it's not confusing at all.

My house looks like Isaac Mendez's apartment in Heroes, but it's worth it IMO.

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free_mhayden said:

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john32f said:

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bobinator said:

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So this goes back to the "it's plausible, but it would have been nice if they either left it out or explained it on screen."

She actually does kind of know what William is going to do. She's been around him A LOT so maybe she knows that at distance he's going to shoot for the body and he would only shoot at the head at very close range which is why she doesn't walk right up to him until she knows he only has the one shot left.

But yeah, that's another example of just an unnecessary complication of the plot.

Another way they could have written around that would be for the MIB to always use a rifle when he's shooting from distance or on horseback and only try to use his pistol once they're dismounted and he's shooting at Dolores. That way it would make some sense that she sabotaged his pistol knowing that she would be the only one he would be close enough to be trying to shoot with it or something.

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Could be wrong here but I thought she tampered with his center chamber bullet. Bigger round, may be threatening to her, while the rest are not?

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Thought that as well, but Bernard did her in with a regular round.

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AgEng06 said:

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Pretty sure it was the Glock that Ford made appear in his hand.

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bobinator said:

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Yeah, but Dolores said "I remembered you once before, so I remembered you again." I took that to mean that she built Bernard from memory, not by simply plugging his control unit into a new body.

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