AliasMan02 said:PooDoo said:
With VR you aren't sharing a sexdoll with the rest of the park guests.
Virtually every major tourist destination in the world actively and legally offers prostitutes to guests, which is way grosser.
Donald? Is that you?
AliasMan02 said:PooDoo said:
With VR you aren't sharing a sexdoll with the rest of the park guests.
Virtually every major tourist destination in the world actively and legally offers prostitutes to guests, which is way grosser.
MW03 said:
That scene with Dr. Ford on the plantation was intense
Dr. Not Yet Dr. Ag said:I'm very confused with all this talk of different timelines on this thread. There has been absolutely no indication on this show that each event is not taking place in semi-concurrent fashion. The security portion of Westworld even discusses in this episode how Delores is off her path while hanging out with Logan and William. Where are you people getting these theories?amercer said:
Everyone is in the same timeline?
Except maybe Logan and William who are in the future? Or is Logan the board member?
Oh and maybe Bernard is a robot after all--and maybe his boss knows EVERYTHING he is doing...
If Bernard is a host, the question arises of whether he KNOWS he is a host. He certainly believes he has an ex-wife and a son who was lost, but if he is a host, those are implanted memories.Quote:
(And potentially, Bernard. I do agree that he's probably a host, despite the fact that I don't particularly care for it, and I wonder if he was the first host to be "set free" and now he's hopeful another one can do it so he's sort of encouraging Delores.)
bobinator said:
(in response to Ranger...)
Because some of the things that happen are changes in the physical world. She is talking to the girl, has an episode, and then the girl isn't there. She set the gun on the dresser, looked in the mirror, and the gun was gone. It's happened a few times already.
Unless we can't trust our own angle on the show, which would be frustrating also, those are changes in the physical world that can't be explained unless they're at separate times right?
Explaining it all down the road won't be all that hard I don't think, but we'll see.
I did go back and rewatch that scene in the hayloft and I don't think it's conclusive at all that she pulled it from his belt. He does look down, but that is literally the only clue. It looks like her hands are empty and that she reaches into the hay to pull the gun out.bobinator said:
She didn't hide it in the hay loft, she pulled it off the guy when he threw her. He looks down and notices his gun is gone.
So big over-arcing theory here, but I think we're going to see Dolores with William try to "find the maze" or whatever and get killed and then wake up and not remember anything at the end of this season, but William will know, or believe, that Dolores was more than just a regular host and it will be the reason he keeps coming back to the park for so long and becoming the MiB. Always looking for a deeper meaning again that he knows is there. Something along those lines is what I think season 1 has in store.
That's interesting.bobinator said:
This is on Reddit, but one of the flashbacks involved Dolores digging up her own grave... WHAT DOES IT MEEEAAAAAN
She reminds me of Xena.easttexasaggie04 said:
Does anybody else think the female boss is getting more attractive?
Agreed, though I don't watch TWD. HBO vs cable is just not fair. I can't think of one basic cable show that competes with HBO in those categories, except maybe Breaking Bad. (As far as acting and writing, probably not production value.)LHIOB said:
I really love everything about this show. I was a little worried after Spinwall wasn't too high on it and I thought maybe it would E4 that was the let down since they were given the first 4 eps.
Really excited to see where they take it.
I watched TWD after WW this week and it wasn't really fair to TWD. The acting, production, writing...well, everything is just so much better on WW. Thank God for HBO.
Same here. Great episode.MW03 said:
I really liked this episode from a "behind the scenes at Disney World" standpoint. The MIB getting his explosives approved, them calling an audible when they noticed guests had joined Hector this time and jamming weapons, Dr. Ford playing god on the plantation, them introducing the Samaritan reflex, etc.
I thought it was a pretty fascinating look at the park itself.
I thought Fargo got a little purposely weird last season. I loved the first season but the second season didn't draw me in that much.LHIOB said:
Fargo is pretty outstanding. Acting is up there with the best and the stories are fantastic.
OldArmy71 said:
Here is an interesting article from the Washington Post. The thesis is that insofar as we experience the show as a puzzle to be solved, we are experiencing it incorrectly, on an intellectual rather than on an emotional level. The author laments that the audience is failing to connect to the larger dimensions suggested by the story--the "what does it mean to be human" dimension.
I agree with the article. As was suggested earlier in this thread, the whole idea of such a theme park is repulsive. It is not like a video game at all, because the digital bits of information that explode in a video game do not feel what happens to them.
In the park, the hosts feel pleasure, but also pain, guilt, grief, isolation, and fear. When a guest shoots them or tortures them, they feel it, even if only for the short duration of a particular loop.
That the hosts are tormented, if only for a short duration, is terrible enough. That, after all, is the human condition--to become aware of and experience suffering, and, in the blink of an eye, to disappear forever.
Worse, though, is that the hosts are condemned to lives of being reborn into the same hellish world. As the MIB complains, no one in the park can really die. Now, he is of course referring to the lack of real risk that the guests experience. But on another level, his words describe all the hosts, too, who suffer but cannot be released from their suffering in death.
And then the hosts who are developing self-awareness are the worst off of all, because they have become aware of their eternal torment.
Excellent point. When Ford approaches the host whose nakedness has been covered by one of the workers, he says that the hosts feel only what they are programmed to feel, and cuts the host's face with no response. So it's hard to tell if they truly feel.Quote:
That is, of course, if they have a consciousness. But do they? At this point of the show, it's hard to say what's a programmed reaction, and what is genuine feeling.