bangobango said:
Probably already mentioned, but Teddy lights those axe murderers up with his gun at the end and they all barely flinch. So, I guess the implication is that five or six guests decided to join a murdering cult?
That's my guess.
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That's my guess.
I think you guys are reading too much into "if they are shot and don't die then they must be guests".
It was mentioned for the storyline that his followers don't feel pain -- I think the assumption should be that they were designed that way for this specific storyline.
It was mentioned for the storyline that his followers don't feel pain -- I think the assumption should be that they were designed that way for this specific storyline.
I think either that, or that specifically bullets from hosts can't hurt them. Like I said earlier in the thread, I didn't notice whether or not the lady actually hit anyone, but perhaps they have to be killed by guests. Hosts can only help them up to a certain point, and then you have to complete the journey on your own.
But yeah, that line of "they don't feel pain, they keep coming" or whatever was clearly a tie-in to that.
But yeah, that line of "they don't feel pain, they keep coming" or whatever was clearly a tie-in to that.
Here's a question regarding the Wyatt story line...
Writer guy wants to introduce Odyssey on Red River which Dr. Ford shuts down because it is nothing but cheap thrills. He says:
Then Dr. Ford gives Teddy a backstory about Wyatt, and presumably introduces the Wyatt story line into the park.
So what do you guys think Ford's agenda is behind the Wyatt story line? Could it be that Wyatt does actually recruit park guests to become part of his terrible posse? It seems incongruent for Ford to simply introduce a more difficult round of bosses to make that short story arch more terrifying for the guest.
Writer guy wants to introduce Odyssey on Red River which Dr. Ford shuts down because it is nothing but cheap thrills. He says:
Quote:
"They come back because of the subtleties. The details. They come back because they discover something they imagine no one had ever noticed before. Something they fall in love with. They're not looking for a story that tells them who they are. They already know who they are. They're here because they want a glimpse of who they could be."
Then Dr. Ford gives Teddy a backstory about Wyatt, and presumably introduces the Wyatt story line into the park.
So what do you guys think Ford's agenda is behind the Wyatt story line? Could it be that Wyatt does actually recruit park guests to become part of his terrible posse? It seems incongruent for Ford to simply introduce a more difficult round of bosses to make that short story arch more terrifying for the guest.
I love a good wild speculation or theory as much as the next person, but I just simply don't think we know enough about the Wyatt situation yet to even begin guessing. I don't anyway, it could literally be almost anything. Dude could effectively have superpowers for all we know.
I do think it was interesting that they didn't use guns once they had them surrounded, considering the comment the field tech said about how "the only thing keeping them from hacking us to pieces is a single line of your code" or whatever.
The could go the whole inception route, the west is the first layer, but the command center is the second. Guests can play cowboy or be a park employee for a day that oversees the park for other guests.
The big reveal will be some kid playing Westworld Tycoon on his PC.
The big reveal will be some kid playing Westworld Tycoon on his PC.
MW03 said:
Here's a question regarding the Wyatt story line...
Writer guy wants to introduce Odyssey on Red River which Dr. Ford shuts down because it is nothing but cheap thrills. He says:Quote:
"They come back because of the subtleties. The details. They come back because they discover something they imagine no one had ever noticed before. Something they fall in love with. They're not looking for a story that tells them who they are. They already know who they are. They're here because they want a glimpse of who they could be."
Then Dr. Ford gives Teddy a backstory about Wyatt, and presumably introduces the Wyatt story line into the park.
So what do you guys think Ford's agenda is behind the Wyatt story line? Could it be that Wyatt does actually recruit park guests to become part of his terrible posse? It seems incongruent for Ford to simply introduce a more difficult round of bosses to make that short story arch more terrifying for the guest.
Btw, that whole scene w/ Ford giving Teddy that backstory for some reason drew parallels for me to Bernard and his story about his son. It just all felt very scripted which essentially sealed it for me that Bernard is a host.
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Ford's storyline won't be just tougher encounters and more blood and guts. It will be psychological and evocative. Can't wait.
My theory on this: She stole the gun from chops in a previous iteration of this narrative. She then buries the gun, digs it up after the world has been reset, and hides it for herself in the haystack for the next time chops attacks her in the barn. Her facial expression when she's laying on the haystack is more of a "holy **** I just found a gun in this haystack" than a "I just stole a gun from chops." I was confused at first about chops looking down at his (presumably empty) holster, but then I think it's just a flicker of Delores's memory from the previous time that she stole his gun -- in much the same vain as the face of her dead dad was flickering between the two hosts.3rdGen2015 said:That's something straight out of Memento right there. Props for coming up with a real theory that I haven't even seen on Reddit.bobinator said:
In fact, until the last scene, this episode almost looked like it was running backwards for her. She digs up a gun, then she has a gun in her dresser, then she pulls the gun off of the outlaw guy. Seems like the natural order would have been, get the gun, hide it in the house, bury the evidence. To be fair, I didn't notice the details enough to see if this is the same gun, but I assume it is.
Wasn't it said that the host that played her Dad previously was leader of some kind of cannibal cult in the wilderness similar to this Wyatt thing?
AtlAg05 said:
The could go the whole inception route, the west is the first layer, but the command center is the second. Guests can play cowboy or be a park employee for a day that oversees the park for other guests.
The big reveal will be some kid playing Westworld Tycoon on his PC.
This is what I thought, that she buried the gun there from a previous loop. That she is essentially leaving herself clues and items to help her survive. Which is also very Memento like.Dan 07 said:My theory on this: She stole the gun from chops in a previous iteration of this narrative. She then buries the gun, digs it up after the world has been reset, and hides it for herself in the haystack for the next time chops attacks her in the barn. Her facial expression when she's laying on the haystack is more of a "holy **** I just found a gun in this haystack" than a "I just stole a gun from chops." I was confused at first about chops looking down at his (presumably empty) holster, but then I think it's just a flicker of Delores's memory from the previous time that she stole his gun -- in much the same vain as the face of her dead dad was flickering between the two hosts.3rdGen2015 said:That's something straight out of Memento right there. Props for coming up with a real theory that I haven't even seen on Reddit.bobinator said:
In fact, until the last scene, this episode almost looked like it was running backwards for her. She digs up a gun, then she has a gun in her dresser, then she pulls the gun off of the outlaw guy. Seems like the natural order would have been, get the gun, hide it in the house, bury the evidence. To be fair, I didn't notice the details enough to see if this is the same gun, but I assume it is.
I didn't understand the gun in the dresser and then disappearing (flashback, maybe?) and I don't understand him looking down at his belt after he sees the gun (because he recognizes it as his, maybe?).
There is not feeling pain and then there is getting shot with a gun from point blank range and not even flinching. Seems the physics alone would cause them to at least take a step back.free_mhayden said:
I think you guys are reading too much into "if they are shot and don't die then they must be guests".
It was mentioned for the storyline that his followers don't feel pain -- I think the assumption should be that they were designed that way for this specific storyline.
bangobango said:There is not feeling pain and then there is getting shot with a gun from point blank range and not even flinching. Seems the physics alone would cause them to at least take a step back.free_mhayden said:
I think you guys are reading too much into "if they are shot and don't die then they must be guests".
It was mentioned for the storyline that his followers don't feel pain -- I think the assumption should be that they were designed that way for this specific storyline.
Which would hold true if they were guests as well.
mythbusters covered this. even a shotgun blast at point blank was barely enough to nudge a hog carcass hanging from a precariously balanced hook. iirc.
schmendeler said:
mythbusters covered this. even a shotgun blast at point blank was barely enough to nudge a hog carcass hanging from a precariously balanced hook. iirc.
Interesting. Learn something new everyday.
A buddy just told me that the can Dolores drops is the same in the Teddy and Man in Black scenes, but is slightly different when William picks it up.
Found an image on reddit.
if you think about it, it makes sense. if a bullet had enough force to knock someone down, then firing the gun would knock you down as well.bangobango said:schmendeler said:
mythbusters covered this. even a shotgun blast at point blank was barely enough to nudge a hog carcass hanging from a precariously balanced hook. iirc.
Interesting. Learn something new everyday.
One thing I liked, or maybe didn't, on that podcast that someone linked to earlier in the thread is that Jason Concepcion joked about Westworld "weaponizing" internet theories. It almost seems like they might be doing things in this show just to get more wild internet threads started and then they won't end up really being important later.
Or, maybe every single thing means something.
I still think there are multiple timelines at work here, and I don't even necessarily think they're linear in and of themselves. Like I said, I think Delores could be working backwards, or at least slipping backwards and forwards.
Or, maybe every single thing means something.
I still think there are multiple timelines at work here, and I don't even necessarily think they're linear in and of themselves. Like I said, I think Delores could be working backwards, or at least slipping backwards and forwards.
What exactly is that image supposed to show? The can looks the same unless I am missing something.
I think the westworld wouldn't change the design of a can of condensed milk over the years. If it ain't broke...
I think the westworld wouldn't change the design of a can of condensed milk over the years. If it ain't broke...
Apache said:
What exactly is that image supposed to show? The can looks the same unless I am missing something.
I think the westworld wouldn't change the design of a can of condensed milk over the years. If it ain't broke...
Check the spacing on Maidenbrand.
The can thing seems like reaching to me. If we're supposed to be paying THAT close of attention, then I need a bigger TV.
bobinator said:
The can thing seems like reaching to me. If we're supposed to be paying THAT close of attention, then I need a bigger TV.
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bobinator said:
The can thing seems like reaching to me. If we're supposed to be paying THAT close of attention, then I need a bigger TV.
Sounds like a good excuse to upgrade
Tight Maiden vs. Spread Maiden. Clearly symbolic of Dolores' journey to full AI.
That was probably an uh oh/lazy person by the props department
Heh, that would be highly appropriate then since William picking up the slightly different can occurs during the presentation of Odyssey on Red River when Ford shoots it down and his speech about how guests don't come for the obvious things they do, but for the subtle things and the details is overlaid over that scene.
Isn't this whole park a repulsive concept?
Sexbots, victimbots, & murderbots. Gross if you think about it.
Sexbots, victimbots, & murderbots. Gross if you think about it.
I mean it's just like the most popular video games now... so I think that's to be expected.
Are you aware of the number of people that play games like Red Dead Redemption, God of War, Grand Theft Auto, or any other number of games like that?PooDoo said:
Isn't this whole park a repulsive concept?
Sexbots, victimbots, & murderbots. Gross if you think about it.
This seems much along the same line, only in person.
Better to kill and rape robots than real people? Are you not participating in this years Purge?
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