The physics of the entire park make no sense to me. How do they pull Dolores out in the middle of the night when she is on a camp out with a visitor? How do they make guns shoot real bullets that don't harm the visitors but kill the hosts?HummingbirdSaltalamacchia said:
Side note that i havent seen touched on, Maeve was digging out a REAL MF-ing bullet fragment from her stomach. SO the guns in the park clearly fire real projectiles. Wonder if they will touch on the how that works when the guns are shot at humans.
Proceed with the deeper discussion at hand.
Maybe they are the ones who funded itamercer said:
Also, Ford says all deaseases are cured right?
Soooooo, that's pretty dick considering you're talking to a guy who's kid died of some disease. Also kind of dick if you're talking to a robot and that's the backstory you gave him. And if all diseases are cured, what is the MIBs foundation doing?
I don't think that conversation with Bernard and her being with William are necessarily concurrent. That conversation could have happened after other times her parents were killed at the house. She doesn't mention shooting the guy or anything, she just says she ran. Conceivably there could have been several times she escaped. She could just be remembering it now or something.bangobango said:The physics of the entire park make no sense to me. How do they pull Dolores out in the middle of the night when she is on a camp out with a visitor? How do they make guns shoot real bullets that don't harm the visitors but kill the hosts?HummingbirdSaltalamacchia said:
Side note that i havent seen touched on, Maeve was digging out a REAL MF-ing bullet fragment from her stomach. SO the guns in the park clearly fire real projectiles. Wonder if they will touch on the how that works when the guns are shot at humans.
Proceed with the deeper discussion at hand.
The logistics behind it all do not add up to me, either. They're pulling all those bodies out every night and patching them up and having them back into place within a few hours? How? Would it not be more cost effective to just have replacement bodies and keep them on some kind of rotation?
Where is this park located? How do you walk through a door into a moving train? How do they keep visitors from leaving the park itself?
Part of me suspects that the park itself is not real and there is some kind of Matrix stuff going on, and by that I don't mean everyone is in the Matrix, but that to enter the park it is more of a mind type thing than actually physically entering the park. It would explain how Ford can seemingly control the park with nothing but his mind.
I think people might be reading too much into that line. I think he's talking about in the park with the hosts. His "world" so to speak. His creations don't have disease.amercer said:
Also, Ford says all deaseases are cured right?
Soooooo, that's pretty dick considering you're talking to a guy who's kid died of some disease. Also kind of dick if you're talking to a robot and that's the backstory you gave him. And if all diseases are cured, what is the MIBs foundation doing?
My answers in bold. Hopefully it helps clear some stuff up.bangobango said:The physics of the entire park make no sense to me. How do they pull Dolores out in the middle of the night when she is on a camp out with a visitor?HummingbirdSaltalamacchia said:
Side note that i havent seen touched on, Maeve was digging out a REAL MF-ing bullet fragment from her stomach. SO the guns in the park clearly fire real projectiles. Wonder if they will touch on the how that works when the guns are shot at humans.
Proceed with the deeper discussion at hand.
They don't. The editing might make it seem like that's what is happening, but they aren't concurrent events. They do everything in their power to make sure that the guests' immersion isn't broken.
How do they make guns shoot real bullets that don't harm the visitors but kill the hosts?
They're called "simunitions". Basically they feel like paint balls to guests, but something behind the scenes in a magical black box tells the host they got shot.
The logistics behind it all do not add up to me, either. They're pulling all those bodies out every night and patching them up and having them back into place within a few hours? How? Would it not be more cost effective to just have replacement bodies and keep them on some kind of rotation?
They aren't replaced every day. They are replaced every time the story resets. This could be days or weeks, we aren't really sure.
Where is this park located?
We don't know yet. It doesn't really matter, IMO. Most likely either an island, another planet, or in an undersea biosphere.
How do you walk through a door into a moving train?
It wasn't moving when they got on. We don't know exactly how it works, but I imagined it being like an elevator going to every floor and picking the guests up.
How do they keep visitors from leaving the park itself?
See park location.
Part of me suspects that the park itself is not real and there is some kind of Matrix stuff going on, and by that I don't mean everyone is in the Matrix, but that to enter the park it is more of a mind type thing than actually physically entering the park. It would explain how Ford can seemingly control the park with nothing but his mind.
I don't buy the "park is in VR space" theory. I think it is all physical, otherwise why would they need to clean and repair the hosts at all? Ford can control the park because he created the park, much like how a programmer knows exactly how their program works and can work around things nobody else can.
This is a problem... no question. The only way to make this make sense is if the bullets themselves can register if they're heading toward a host or a guest and then explode in air or something if it's a guest or be a real bullet if it's a host. The guests obviously have some sort of implant or something where they can be tracked. But that seems like a ludicrous way of making that work.schmendeler said:
...except that maeve had a real bullet in her gut.
3rdGen2015 said:My answers in bold. Hopefully it helps clear some stuff up.bangobango said:The physics of the entire park make no sense to me. How do they pull Dolores out in the middle of the night when she is on a camp out with a visitor?HummingbirdSaltalamacchia said:
Side note that i havent seen touched on, Maeve was digging out a REAL MF-ing bullet fragment from her stomach. SO the guns in the park clearly fire real projectiles. Wonder if they will touch on the how that works when the guns are shot at humans.
Proceed with the deeper discussion at hand.
They don't. The editing might make it seem like that's what is happening, but they aren't concurrent events. They do everything in their power to make sure that the guests' immersion isn't broken.
How do they make guns shoot real bullets that don't harm the visitors but kill the hosts?
They're called "simunitions". Basically they feel like paint balls to guests, but something behind the scenes in a magical black box tells the host they got shot.
The logistics behind it all do not add up to me, either. They're pulling all those bodies out every night and patching them up and having them back into place within a few hours? How? Would it not be more cost effective to just have replacement bodies and keep them on some kind of rotation?
They aren't replaced every day. They are replaced every time the story resets. This could be days or weeks, we aren't really sure.
Where is this park located?
We don't know yet. It doesn't really matter, IMO. Most likely either an island, another planet, or in an undersea biosphere.
How do you walk through a door into a moving train?
It wasn't moving when they got on. We don't know exactly how it works, but I imagined it being like an elevator going to every floor and picking the guests up.
How do they keep visitors from leaving the park itself?
See park location.
Part of me suspects that the park itself is not real and there is some kind of Matrix stuff going on, and by that I don't mean everyone is in the Matrix, but that to enter the park it is more of a mind type thing than actually physically entering the park. It would explain how Ford can seemingly control the park with nothing but his mind.
I don't buy the "park is in VR space" theory. I think it is all physical, otherwise why would they need to clean and repair the hosts at all? Ford can control the park because he created the park, much like how a programmer knows exactly how their program works and can work around things nobody else can.
OR,dlance said:
My theory...
Arnold created a host that looks like Ford. Arnold killed real Ford. Arnold uploads himself into host Ford. Current Ford is really Arnold...who "went mad".
The White Wolf said:
Interesting quote from episode 3 with Ford talking with Bernard. He says "It's a tricky thing... weaving the old with the new" - I haven't seen this quote talked about anywhere, but I find it very interesting in relation with the theories about William potentially being The Man in Black and us seeing things from two totally different time periods.
I do like this theory and there are several little details that make me think it is most probable right now. I also think Bernard is likely a recreated Arnold. I believe every character in the show (besides Ford and Man in Black) will go through periods of questioning their reality, whether human or not.
The biggest question from the start and has been reiterated several times is "Have you ever questioned the nature of your reality?" We saw Mr. Abernathy do this in the first episode and we're beginning to see Maeve do it now. I think before it's all said and done, we're going to see several other characters go through this and likely it will be with characters we assumed were/are human. To me it seems very likely that Bernard is a Host. But like the intense scene with Ford and Theresa at the plantation, surrounded by tons of Hosts doing his bidding, it's not too crazy to assume that all of "management" isn't real...
And they didn't stick the landing in BSG for the finale.free_mhayden said:
The problem with a lot of these theories is that i already watched Battlestar Galactica.
Or Bernard's autistic son playing with a Westworld snowglobe.AtlAg05 said:
The could go the whole inception route, the west is the first layer, but the command center is the second. Guests can play cowboy or be a park employee for a day that oversees the park for other guests.
The big reveal will be some kid playing Westworld Tycoon on his PC.
