*** WESTWORLD Season 1 (HBO) ***

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"DEADLY" sexbot?!? SPOILER ALERT!
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Did not realize she was Mary Bennet in Pride and Prejudice.

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MrPlow2010 said:

I love Ed Harris's revolver. A nine shooter with one shotgun shell. Badass gun.


It is called a Lemat. Confederate cavalry pistol made by the French in the civil war. I believe it was originally 9 shot .36 caliber cap and ball, which is between the lands is .380... hence the use of 38 colt rounds using a conversion cylinder to fire cartridge ammo.

Center barrel was 20 ga. Cap black powder shotgun, which they also converted to a brass 20 ga cartridge.

You can still buy firing replicas (cap and ball) made in Italy. Very cool.
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RedbeardAG said:

This show definitely requires a lot of suspension of disbelief.
There are a lot of things that just don't hold up under any level of scrutiny....still a cool concept.
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So, I'm way late but..is this basically an episode of Star Trek where the holodeck simulation goes really really wrong? Like, Tom Paris' Irish country town thing and the episode with the Holograph revolt?

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swimmerbabe11 said:

So, I'm way late but..is this basically an episode of Star Trek where the holodeck simulation goes really really wrong? Like, Tom Paris' Irish country town thing and the episode with the Holograph revolt?




Fail for having Voyager as your default when thinking of Star Trek.
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Over/under the # of PMs swimmer is about to get asking for a date?
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Does someone else do a vaguely western holodeck simulation? That's the only one I know of.
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You have the basic idea, swimmy. That's where it's headed.
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https://www.moviefone.com/2016/10/11/westworld-theory-the-man-in-black/?ncid=txtlnkusaolp00002184

Interesting theory on the Ed Harris character, I may have missed this being posted, looking back on the last episode, it makes sense.
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In some ways it's like the holodeck, except that the "hosts" (robots, whatever) can exist outside of the park because they're made of actual material.

Like if the holodeck, instead of using energy to create matter and turning it into whatever it wanted, were a 3D printer, then it would be the same.
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It's been discussed on here. So far we don't have a lot of evidence either way, but I like the theory.
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bobinator said:

It's been discussed on here. So far we don't have a lot of evidence either way, but I like the theory.


My bad I jumped on this thread late and went back a page or two only. I love the theory and I think it will come together over the next few episodes, great show!
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nhayden said:

https://www.moviefone.com/2016/10/11/westworld-theory-the-man-in-black/?ncid=txtlnkusaolp00002184

Interesting theory on the Ed Harris character, I may have missed this being posted, looking back on the last episode, it makes sense.
I like it. Guess I'll have to rewatch episode 2 now. What a shame. ;-)
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swimmerbabe11 said:

Does someone else do a vaguely western holodeck simulation? That's the only one I know of.
weak. you need to up your game.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Fistful_of_Datas
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Sorry, haven't gotten there yet. Working with what Netflix can give me.
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nhayden said:


My bad I jumped on this thread late and went back a page or two only. I love the theory and I think it will come together over the next few episodes, great show!

The logo branding is the best thing this theory has going for it.
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nhayden said:

https://www.moviefone.com/2016/10/11/westworld-theory-the-man-in-black/?ncid=txtlnkusaolp00002184

Interesting theory on the Ed Harris character, I may have missed this being posted, looking back on the last episode, it makes sense.
Three things make me think that the story is concurrent.

First is that the Escaton story was likely stricken when they had to up his timetable and he went to the saloon which gave us the Paint it Black sequence at the end of the first episode. With that being removed, they filled in the quest with the Army officer.

Second is when Jimmi Simpson's character arrived, the entrance to the park where he bumped into the guy that Marsden bumped into is the same. This suggests that the narrative had no changed much in nearly 30 years.

Third is that when Jimmi Simpson is on the train to the town, the woman Newton's character talks to when they are discussing Harris' character taking out an entire group of hosts. Concurrently I believe.

I'm sure there is a theory on it already, but I'm thinking that Harris' character is the surviving player (Peter Martin?) from the original movie and that in that regard, this series isn't so much a reboot of the film for TV but rather a continuation of the story.

Edit to add: That's not to mention that the hosts have apparently changed a lot over 30 years and are more lifelike than they were 30 years ago, if I'm remembering correctly.
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jabberwalkie09 said:

nhayden said:

https://www.moviefone.com/2016/10/11/westworld-theory-the-man-in-black/?ncid=txtlnkusaolp00002184

Interesting theory on the Ed Harris character, I may have missed this being posted, looking back on the last episode, it makes sense.
Three things make me think that the story is concurrent.

First is that the Escaton story was likely stricken when they had to up his timetable and he went to the saloon which gave us the Paint it Black sequence at the end of the first episode. With that being removed, they filled in the quest with the Army officer.

Second is when Jimmi Simpson's character arrived, the entrance to the park where he bumped into the guy that Marsden bumped into is the same. This suggests that the narrative had no changed much in nearly 30 years.

Third is that when Jimmi Simpson is on the train to the town, the woman Newton's character talks to when they are discussing Harris' character taking out an entire group of hosts. Concurrently I believe.

I'm sure there is a theory on it already, but I'm thinking that Harris' character is the surviving player (Peter Martin?) from the original movie and that in that regard, this series isn't so much a reboot of the film for TV but rather a continuation of the story.


I like that theory.
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jabberwalkie09 said:

nhayden said:

https://www.moviefone.com/2016/10/11/westworld-theory-the-man-in-black/?ncid=txtlnkusaolp00002184

Interesting theory on the Ed Harris character, I may have missed this being posted, looking back on the last episode, it makes sense.
Three things make me think that the story is concurrent.

First is that the Escaton story was likely stricken when they had to up his timetable and he went to the saloon which gave us the Paint it Black sequence at the end of the first episode. With that being removed, they filled in the quest with the Army officer.

Second is when Jimmi Simpson's character arrived, the entrance to the park where he bumped into the guy that Marsden bumped into is the same. This suggests that the narrative had no changed much in nearly 30 years.

Third is that when Jimmi Simpson is on the train to the town, the woman Newton's character talks to when they are discussing Harris' character taking out an entire group of hosts. Concurrently I believe.

I'm sure there is a theory on it already, but I'm thinking that Harris' character is the surviving player (Peter Martin?) from the original movie and that in that regard, this series isn't so much a reboot of the film for TV but rather a continuation of the story.

Edit to add: That's not to mention that the hosts have apparently changed a lot over 30 years and are more lifelike than they were 30 years ago, if I'm remembering correctly.
Seems to make more sense than William and MIB are the same person. To me that is a strrrrretch
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Are we spoiler alerting theories or are we spoiler alerting the movie itself just in case someone hasn't seen it?
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I tagged as the idea relates to the movie.
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Okay cool, just wanted to make sure on the protocol.

But I agree that's much more likely than them being the same person.
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Well those theories could both be true, and we could be getting a continuation with a reboot built in
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Quote:


Edit to add: That's not to mention that the hosts have apparently changed a lot over 30 years and are more lifelike than they were 30 years ago, if I'm remembering correctly.
Yeah in the movie, IIRC, the hosts were identifiable by the palms of their hands. Either no lines, or one line or something.
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Pignorant said:

Did not realize she was Mary Bennet in Pride and Prejudice.


Had no idea she is married to Elon Musk
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* was married
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I don't buy the Ed Harris is the new guy theory. If they were jumping back and forth in time Dolores would be the only character we would recognize. Didn't the tech say she was the last host around from the F-up 30 years ago?

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I am definitely leaning towards TMIB being the character from the movie. When did they say the last major "issue was? 30-ish years ago? How long ago was the movie? 30-ish years ago? Seems too coincidental and very possible the two are in some way connected in a quasi-sequel sort of way.

Of course thats just my opinion, i could be wrong [/dennismillervoice]
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Movie came out in 1973, but was suppose to take place in the 1980's I think.
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PooDoo said:

I don't buy the Ed Harris is the new guy theory. If they were jumping back and forth in time Dolores would be the only character we would recognize. Didn't the tech say she was the last host around from the F-up 30 years ago?



No, I believe he just says that she is the oldest host in the park
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So I did a rewatch with the William-is-the-MIB theory in mind, and I find it plausible-but-not-likely.

William has more in common with Teddy at this point than with the MiB. In fact, they're so similar that I wonder if Teddy isn't a host version of William. Maybe in the past Delores falls for William, but eventually he has to leave, and so they replaced William with Teddy in Delores' mind, thus the "you came back" narrative we see at the beginning of episode 1. Seems like the kind of thing Ford and Bernard might do.

The problem with any theories (or the best part about them I suppose) is that with almost all of the characters being replaced and wiped clean all the time, it's exceptionally hard to figure out what's linear in this story. Almost any scene could be at almost any time.
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That's true about the timelines, but it would make for a mess of a show so I'm thinking anything in the past will be obvious
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I think the biggest argument for the MIB being William are the differences in the WestWorld logos. This is a show with JJ Abrams involved. Something like that is not on accident. Or is it? I don't know. My head hurts.
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Yeah, like I said earlier in the thread, the logo is the biggest thing going for that theory, and it's definitely not nothing. I definitely think there's an alternate timeline at work.
 
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