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In reply to JJxvi • 3:59p, 9/19/22
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JJxvi said:
Since none of you are going to do it....Pefok = Devid Regis!!!!
I wonder if he's still married to her.

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In reply to Rudyjax • 4:00p, 9/19/22
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Fair enough. I just know that I'd put more stock on guys posting here than any of those Twitter accounts you quoted. So yeah, when I said that the only place *I'd* heard it was here, I wasn't including Twitter minnows that aren't on my radar.
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In reply to PatAg • 4:08p, 9/19/22
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fig96 said:
deadbq03 said:
The issue for me has always been about fit, and I'm absolutely speculating, but I have a hard time believing that guys like Aaronson and Adams who are fired up to be representing the US in Europe are super thrilled working with a guy whose mom didn't want him to raise him here and whose family didn't understand/support his choice to join the USMNT. A guy who's just here because we're way better than Cameroon and a France call-up seemed highly unlikely.
How is that much different than Tillman, Musah, Jedi, etc.?
I would guess there is no difference for him.
Yeah there's really not much difference and I can't wait for the day when we don't have to get guys like this.

But y'all know I'm a moronic body language guy. If guys like Jedi and Musah can come in and give 100% and look like they want to be there - they'll win me over, and those two certainly have.

Pefok and Tillman have looked lost/unmotivated and were fringe call-ups to begin with. I'd even argue that Dest isn't giving 100, but he's so much better than Yedlin, I can hold my nose and accept it. But I do secretly dream of Scally pushing him out of the starting job.
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4:25p, 9/19/22
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I can't wait until Pulisic scores the game winner against Wales and England and rips his shirt off post game of course, and points to his American eagle American flag tattoo.

And those garbage Chelsea fans can esad.
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In reply to Rudyjax • 5:28p, 9/19/22
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Ken Scarborough said:
OregonAggie said:
Ken Scarborough said:
Ggg had better get out of round play or his ass is fired, especially when he leaves a premier league captain and the leading goal scorer in a top 5 league off the squad.


Not sure how Pepi got a place and Pefok didn't. As far as Ream goes, I've just never been impressed with him. Too slow. His leadership is great but I'd rather see a younger guy get a chance.
He's been poor because Ggg doesn't play to his strengths.

That's fine if it works. If he leaves a PL team captain off the team and we struggle, tons of second guessing from fans to US soccer leadership.

I may have read it here, or twitter, or on the interwebs elsewhere, but Pefok may be a chemistry/coaching issue as he doesn't speak English well and there are no French speakers on the team. Maybe Dest. But that's 1.

But, i'd rather have Pefok over Arriola or Morris, even if we include Pepi.





We for sure agree on Pefok as Arriola and Morris just aren't near his level.

I've seen Ream play a lot, in the EPL and also for the USMNT…never been impressed. To me he's just another guy so it doesn't matter if he's there or not. For the record, I feel that way about most of our CBs. We consistently had really good CBs until 4-6 years ago IMO
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In reply to Rudyjax • 5:37p, 9/19/22
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Ken Scarborough said:
I can't wait until Pulisic scores the game winner against Wales and England and rips his shirt off post game of course, and points to his American eagle American flag tattoo.

And those garbage Chelsea fans can esad.


We have more of a rivalry with Wales than Iran?
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In reply to Bryan98 • 7:37p, 9/19/22
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Bryan98 said:
Ken Scarborough said:
I can't wait until Pulisic scores the game winner against Wales and England and rips his shirt off post game of course, and points to his American eagle American flag tattoo.

And those garbage Chelsea fans can esad.


We have more of a rivalry with Wales than Iran?


No Chelsea fans in Iran.
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8:46a, 9/20/22
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things in Qatar are going great.


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In reply to Furlock Bones • 9:01a, 9/20/22
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things in Qatar are going great.


two months out? when do we start getting Fyre Fest comparisons?

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In reply to OregonAggie • 10:13a, 9/20/22
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OregonAggie said:
Ken Scarborough said:
OregonAggie said:
Ken Scarborough said:
Ggg had better get out of round play or his ass is fired, especially when he leaves a premier league captain and the leading goal scorer in a top 5 league off the squad.


Not sure how Pepi got a place and Pefok didn't. As far as Ream goes, I've just never been impressed with him. Too slow. His leadership is great but I'd rather see a younger guy get a chance.
He's been poor because Ggg doesn't play to his strengths.

That's fine if it works. If he leaves a PL team captain off the team and we struggle, tons of second guessing from fans to US soccer leadership.

I may have read it here, or twitter, or on the interwebs elsewhere, but Pefok may be a chemistry/coaching issue as he doesn't speak English well and there are no French speakers on the team. Maybe Dest. But that's 1.

But, i'd rather have Pefok over Arriola or Morris, even if we include Pepi.





We for sure agree on Pefok as Arriola and Morris just aren't near his level.

I've seen Ream play a lot, in the EPL and also for the USMNT…never been impressed. To me he's just another guy so it doesn't matter if he's there or not. For the record, I feel that way about most of our CBs. We consistently had really good CBs until 4-6 years ago IMO
I don't believe Pefok is in competition for a spot with Arriola and Morris both.
MAYBE you consider taking a 4th forward and leaving one of Arriola or Morris off, but I dunno about that.
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In reply to PatAg • 10:48a, 9/20/22
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PatAg said:
OregonAggie said:
Ken Scarborough said:
OregonAggie said:
Ken Scarborough said:
Ggg had better get out of round play or his ass is fired, especially when he leaves a premier league captain and the leading goal scorer in a top 5 league off the squad.


Not sure how Pepi got a place and Pefok didn't. As far as Ream goes, I've just never been impressed with him. Too slow. His leadership is great but I'd rather see a younger guy get a chance.
He's been poor because Ggg doesn't play to his strengths.

That's fine if it works. If he leaves a PL team captain off the team and we struggle, tons of second guessing from fans to US soccer leadership.

I may have read it here, or twitter, or on the interwebs elsewhere, but Pefok may be a chemistry/coaching issue as he doesn't speak English well and there are no French speakers on the team. Maybe Dest. But that's 1.

But, i'd rather have Pefok over Arriola or Morris, even if we include Pepi.





We for sure agree on Pefok as Arriola and Morris just aren't near his level.

I've seen Ream play a lot, in the EPL and also for the USMNT…never been impressed. To me he's just another guy so it doesn't matter if he's there or not. For the record, I feel that way about most of our CBs. We consistently had really good CBs until 4-6 years ago IMO
I don't believe Pefok is in competition for a spot with Arriola and Morris both.
MAYBE you consider taking a 4th forward and leaving one of Arriola or Morris off, but I dunno about that.


That's what we're saying. Sargent can play the 9 and the 7 or 11.
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11:07a, 9/20/22
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Based on my observations, I fell like I'd rather bring 4 strikers/forwards and leave Morris home. What he provides (bigger and more physical winger off the bench), Sargent can provide as necessary.

I don't consider Ream a snub. He's too slow for elite international competition at this point. If there's going to be a post WC controversy regarding a snubbed CB, it's going to be Brooks, not Ream.
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In reply to PatAg • 11:37a, 9/20/22
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PatAg said:
OregonAggie said:
Ken Scarborough said:
OregonAggie said:
Ken Scarborough said:
Ggg had better get out of round play or his ass is fired, especially when he leaves a premier league captain and the leading goal scorer in a top 5 league off the squad.


Not sure how Pepi got a place and Pefok didn't. As far as Ream goes, I've just never been impressed with him. Too slow. His leadership is great but I'd rather see a younger guy get a chance.
He's been poor because Ggg doesn't play to his strengths.

That's fine if it works. If he leaves a PL team captain off the team and we struggle, tons of second guessing from fans to US soccer leadership.

I may have read it here, or twitter, or on the interwebs elsewhere, but Pefok may be a chemistry/coaching issue as he doesn't speak English well and there are no French speakers on the team. Maybe Dest. But that's 1.

But, i'd rather have Pefok over Arriola or Morris, even if we include Pepi.





We for sure agree on Pefok as Arriola and Morris just aren't near his level.

I've seen Ream play a lot, in the EPL and also for the USMNT…never been impressed. To me he's just another guy so it doesn't matter if he's there or not. For the record, I feel that way about most of our CBs. We consistently had really good CBs until 4-6 years ago IMO
I don't believe Pefok is in competition for a spot with Arriola and Morris both.
MAYBE you consider taking a 4th forward and leaving one of Arriola or Morris off, but I dunno about that.


I agree with what you're saying as Pefok is a forward and not a winger. Then again, Sargent typically plays as a winger for Norwich but plays as a 9 for us…not sure if Berhalter is going to continue that or think of him as a winger.

I would hope that Arriola and Morris aren't even involved in the final roster though as we already have Pulisic, Reyna, Weah, and Aaronson. I'd slot Sargent out there and start Ferreira or Pefok as the 9. Maybe view Sargent as a guy that can play both spots if needed because I think we're in a bad spot if we're depending on him as our starting striker. He just isn't there yet.

We're so bad as far as forwards go this time around. Ferreira is the top guy IMO but he plays in a lower league, Pefok hasn't impressed with a USMNT jersey on but he's doing great right now, Sargent hasn't ever been consistent enough even though we've desperately wanted him to be, Haji Wright is ok, and Pepi has been in no man's land since his move to Europe…bottom line is that Pefok has to be on the team in Qatar.
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In reply to Rudyjax • 11:57a, 9/20/22
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Ken Scarborough said:
PatAg said:
OregonAggie said:
Ken Scarborough said:
OregonAggie said:
Ken Scarborough said:
Ggg had better get out of round play or his ass is fired, especially when he leaves a premier league captain and the leading goal scorer in a top 5 league off the squad.


Not sure how Pepi got a place and Pefok didn't. As far as Ream goes, I've just never been impressed with him. Too slow. His leadership is great but I'd rather see a younger guy get a chance.
He's been poor because Ggg doesn't play to his strengths.

That's fine if it works. If he leaves a PL team captain off the team and we struggle, tons of second guessing from fans to US soccer leadership.

I may have read it here, or twitter, or on the interwebs elsewhere, but Pefok may be a chemistry/coaching issue as he doesn't speak English well and there are no French speakers on the team. Maybe Dest. But that's 1.

But, i'd rather have Pefok over Arriola or Morris, even if we include Pepi.





We for sure agree on Pefok as Arriola and Morris just aren't near his level.

I've seen Ream play a lot, in the EPL and also for the USMNT…never been impressed. To me he's just another guy so it doesn't matter if he's there or not. For the record, I feel that way about most of our CBs. We consistently had really good CBs until 4-6 years ago IMO
I don't believe Pefok is in competition for a spot with Arriola and Morris both.
MAYBE you consider taking a 4th forward and leaving one of Arriola or Morris off, but I dunno about that.


That's what we're saying. Sargent can play the 9 and the 7 or 11.
Sargent is not getting playing time at the 7 or 11 at the international level. He may play it at his club sometimes, but not well.
My opinion of course, and for the record I would have Pefok on the roster easily.
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In reply to H.E. Pennypacker • 12:13p, 9/20/22
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Based on my observations, I fell like I'd rather bring 4 strikers/forwards and leave Morris home. What he provides (bigger and more physical winger off the bench), Sargent can provide as necessary.

I don't consider Ream a snub. He's too slow for elite international competition at this point. If there's going to be a post WC controversy regarding a snubbed CB, it's going to be Brooks, not Ream.
I'm obviously very biased here in light of my Pefok rants, but I don't understand the angst over John Brooks.

His dip in form at age 29 makes no sense, but it's undeniable. His ratings for Wolfsburg were bad last year. He got a lot of starts still because they lacked better options due to injury, and the proof came clear in them having their worst table finish in many years and Wolfsburg didn't want to renew his contract.

He was available for free and spent the whole summer looking for a team. He found a good team in Benfica, but he's clearly just a backup for them. Early days so I'll admit that could change, but he's got 1 appearance for them so far and that's as an 89' sub. We would need to see a lot more playing time pretty soon before we should even entertain the idea of including him in the WC.

Ggg gets a lot wrong, and leaving John Brooks out seemed like a mistake this time last year… but I think JB's club circumstances over the past year are revealing that ggg got it right. For whatever reason, it seems like his best footballing days are behind him, which is truly sad and confusing considering he's just 29.

I'm happy to be proven wrong, but I think it's time to move on here.
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Interesting read from Pulisic on a couple of experiences playing under TT at Chelsea:

https://prosoccerwire.usatoday.com/2022/09/20/pulisic-claims-tuchel-misled-him-about-starting-champions-league-game-vs-real-madrid/
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In reply to PatAg • 3:37p, 9/20/22
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PatAg said:
Ken Scarborough said:
PatAg said:
OregonAggie said:
Ken Scarborough said:
OregonAggie said:
Ken Scarborough said:
Ggg had better get out of round play or his ass is fired, especially when he leaves a premier league captain and the leading goal scorer in a top 5 league off the squad.


Not sure how Pepi got a place and Pefok didn't. As far as Ream goes, I've just never been impressed with him. Too slow. His leadership is great but I'd rather see a younger guy get a chance.
He's been poor because Ggg doesn't play to his strengths.

That's fine if it works. If he leaves a PL team captain off the team and we struggle, tons of second guessing from fans to US soccer leadership.

I may have read it here, or twitter, or on the interwebs elsewhere, but Pefok may be a chemistry/coaching issue as he doesn't speak English well and there are no French speakers on the team. Maybe Dest. But that's 1.

But, i'd rather have Pefok over Arriola or Morris, even if we include Pepi.





We for sure agree on Pefok as Arriola and Morris just aren't near his level.

I've seen Ream play a lot, in the EPL and also for the USMNT…never been impressed. To me he's just another guy so it doesn't matter if he's there or not. For the record, I feel that way about most of our CBs. We consistently had really good CBs until 4-6 years ago IMO
I don't believe Pefok is in competition for a spot with Arriola and Morris both.
MAYBE you consider taking a 4th forward and leaving one of Arriola or Morris off, but I dunno about that.


That's what we're saying. Sargent can play the 9 and the 7 or 11.
Sargent is not getting playing time at the 7 or 11 at the international level. He may play it at his club sometimes, but not well.
My opinion of course, and for the record I would have Pefok on the roster easily.


He played on the outside in the best league in the world. He can play there in a pinch.
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In reply to jeffk • 3:40p, 9/20/22
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Interesting read from Pulisic on a couple of experiences playing under TT at Chelsea:

https://prosoccerwire.usatoday.com/2022/09/20/pulisic-claims-tuchel-misled-him-about-starting-champions-league-game-vs-real-madrid/


He keeps bagging on Tuchel the Chelsea fans may hate him more.
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4:21p, 9/20/22
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I know we're talkin practice, but this was nice.

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Man I need your kind of luck… Come on here and assert that Sargent can play the 11 and then they drop that sweet video for you.
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In reply to deadbq03 • 6:24p, 9/20/22
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Man I need your kind of luck… Come on here and assert that Sargent can play the 11 and then they drop that sweet video for you.


To be fair, I've been saying this since the foster dropped.
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In reply to Rudyjax • 7:11a, 9/21/22
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I wasn't criticizing if that's what you think. I probably got it wrong based on time zones but my interpretation was entirely positive… you posted, and then twitter gave an example that supported what you said.

I genuinely wish that would happen to me. Probably doesn't cause I'd have to start with a reasonable assertion, and most of mine are hot garbage.
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Oh I know! No worries.
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Ken Scarborough said:
jeffk said:
Interesting read from Pulisic on a couple of experiences playing under TT at Chelsea:

https://prosoccerwire.usatoday.com/2022/09/20/pulisic-claims-tuchel-misled-him-about-starting-champions-league-game-vs-real-madrid/


He keeps bagging on Tuchel the Chelsea fans may hate him more.
I honestly think Chelsea fans feel the same way as Pulisic. Tuchel consistently made strange and irrational tactical changes. I have a couple friends that support Chelsea heavily and they agreed that Tuchel's undoing was his incessant tinkering.

Now Chelsea fans seem to always find non-English players as scapegoats so regardless I think they will find and issue with Pulisic. But that sums up how English fans feel about non-english/non-academy products.
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In reply to KCup17 • 12:38p, 9/21/22
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Ken Scarborough said:
jeffk said:
Interesting read from Pulisic on a couple of experiences playing under TT at Chelsea:

https://prosoccerwire.usatoday.com/2022/09/20/pulisic-claims-tuchel-misled-him-about-starting-champions-league-game-vs-real-madrid/


He keeps bagging on Tuchel the Chelsea fans may hate him more.
I honestly think Chelsea fans feel the same way as Pulisic. Tuchel consistently made strange and irrational tactical changes. I have a couple friends that support Chelsea heavily and they agreed that Tuchel's undoing was his incessant tinkering.

Now Chelsea fans seem to always find non-English players as scapegoats so regardless I think they will find and issue with Pulisic. But that sums up how English fans feel about non-english/non-academy products.


I could have misread the initial post here, but I thought he was saying Chelsea fans may hate Tuchel worse if CP keeps bagging on him. Could be wrong.
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In reply to Rudyjax • 3:25p, 9/21/22
If Sargent is playing on the wings, then we aren't in a pinch...we're in a full-on vise and our eyes are popping out.
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If Sargent is playing on the wings, then we aren't in a pinch...we're in a full-on vise and our eyes are popping out.


I'd rather have him out there than Morris or Arriola.
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Ken Scarborough said:
Dre_00 said:
If Sargent is playing on the wings, then we aren't in a pinch...we're in a full-on vise and our eyes are popping out.


I'd rather have him out there than Morris or Arriola.


I'll second that notion.
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While this is wild, this could have been a bold Home jersey.
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Excellent interview, cool to learn more about Luca's life
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You may be right... I read it as the fans would hate CP more after his comments. And I do know that Chelsea fans aren't too impressed with CP this season.
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Japan game thread is up.
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If you need some more clothing to critique, here's a summary of all the pre-match warm-up shirts that have been released so far. Croatia's is probably my favorite of the bunch.

https://www.soccerbible.com/performance/football-apparel/2022/09/all-2022-world-cup-pre-match-jerseys-released-so-far/
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KCup17 said:
You may be right... I read it as the fans would hate CP more after his comments. And I do know that Chelsea fans aren't too impressed with CP this season.
I was being sarcastic. Many many fans are blaming CP for Tuchel's sacking.

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Excellent interview, cool to learn more about Luca's life
"I have resting ***** face i guess.... I do have emotions though"

With Luca, Gio, CP and even guys like Weah and Aaronson its so amazing we have this many players that can beat you off the dribble. These guys would have been so dangerous in the the Arena/Bradley counterattacking style
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