* Official World Cup 2022 Thread *

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PatAg
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11:10a, 9/15/22
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Gotta admire the ingenuity, and some of his linked kits he has done dont look bad, if you are into tie-dye look
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11:12a, 9/15/22
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Somewhat related note, I wish we had better t-shirts for USMNT supporters. I would be much more likely to wear those out and about than a jersey, and they usually just suck.
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11:12a, 9/15/22
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Reading the comments on the official release on Instagram and they are universally negative. I literally did not see a single comment that these are ok.
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11:17a, 9/15/22
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The Netherlands is yellow now? Wtf is wrong with Nike.

Their best kit is Saudi Arabia. Followed by the home Croatia (away Croatia looks like a 1996 Windows screensaver). Every other kit looks like a kid designed it in MS Paint. And oh my… poor Canada.
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11:27a, 9/15/22
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Canada had to have requested that look, right?
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11:43a, 9/15/22
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so how much does the USSF get in kick backs from Nike? The only way that Nike continually produces such crap for the USMNT
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11:45a, 9/15/22
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Lol, what? Kickback? Yes, it is called a sponsorship. Texas A&M gets a "kickback" to wear adidas too…
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In reply to JJxvi • 11:50a, 9/15/22
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JJxvi said:
Canada had to have requested that look, right?


I'd honestly prefer those in US colors to what we usually get. If you add a collar, and have the shorts/socks be different color than shirt, they'd be perfect.
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In reply to H.E. Pennypacker • 12:09p, 9/15/22
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H.E. Pennypacker said:
JJxvi said:
Canada had to have requested that look, right?


I'd honestly prefer those in US colors to what we usually get. If you add a collar, and have the shorts/socks be different color than shirt, they'd be perfect.


Naw. I'm 100% with Alexi Lalas on this. We need to lean into the Stars and Stripes. Lean into the red white and blue. That's the US. Stop trying to make us England.
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12:31p, 9/15/22
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This isn't hard, we want a consistent look that's recognizable. Argentina gets it.

Give us the Waldos.
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In reply to Furlock Bones • 1:06p, 9/15/22
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England's kit is boring but not nearly as bad as ours




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1:10p, 9/15/22
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Why didn't Nike do for us what they did for France? Their white kit looks fantastic!

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1:38p, 9/15/22
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Hubris thy name is Nike.

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1:44p, 9/15/22
I struggle with MLS jerseys all sucking because they use the same templates....but national team jerseys should be easy and beautiful. There are so many fan made versions that are so, so good that it drives me bonkers when the professionals make it suck.

(and it also makes me thankful I bought a Centennial kit back in 2013....easily the most beautiful of the boring)
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In reply to PatAg • 1:48p, 9/15/22
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i had not seen this 3rd one before as an idea


Those are perfect. So, so, so frustrating.
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In reply to akm91 • 2:15p, 9/15/22
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akm91 said:
Why didn't Nike do for us what they did for France? Their white kit looks fantastic!

Imagine a US version of the whites with an impression of Washington Crossing the Delaware, or Franklin Appearing before the Privy Council, or Patrick Henry Before the House of Burgesses?
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In reply to tysker • 2:16p, 9/15/22
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tysker said:
akm91 said:
Why didn't Nike do for us what they did for France? Their white kit looks fantastic!

Imagine a US version of the whites with an impression of Washington Crossing the Delaware, or Franklin Appearing before the Privy Council, or Patrick Henry Before the House of Burgesses?
Nike could've hired Ben Knox to Americanify it.
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2:21p, 9/15/22
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https://texags.com/forums/51/topics/2071273

https://texags.com/forums/51/topics/1978040

Just in case anyone wants to actually revisit the initial reaction to the Waldos
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In reply to JJxvi • 2:31p, 9/15/22
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Lol. 2012 me was a prophet.

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The crest makes me angry. It would take someone all of 20 minutes using free software to make a better one.
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In reply to jeffk • 2:34p, 9/15/22
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jeffk said:
Lol. 2012 me was a prophet.

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The crest makes me angry. It would take someone all of 20 minutes using free software to make a better one.
I mean, at least they did finally fix the crest.
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In reply to JJxvi • 2:45p, 9/15/22
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JJxvi said:
https://texags.com/forums/51/topics/2071273

https://texags.com/forums/51/topics/1978040

Just in case anyone wants to actually revisit the initial reaction to the Waldos


Seems like some liked it. Some didn't. That's pretty normal. This is most overwhelmingly negative reaction I've seen.

Part of it is that we missed the last WC. 8 years wandering the wilderness. We expected something special to mark our return.

The whites are even worse for the womens squad.

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2:51p, 9/15/22
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Ok...i hate to interupt a good ****ting on the on uniform, but wanted to talk about Pepi over Pefollk.

We know Pepi is a favorite of Gggs, but he didn't play well the last time in camp and struggled in the Bundesleiga. He's learning a new team in a lessor league.

Pefolk did well for young boys and is lighting up the Bundesliga.

Is it possible there was pressure to have another Hispanic American on the team?

Did Ggg someone, not Ggg, promise him the WC ?

Is this a bigger snub, if true, than Donovon in 2014?
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2:55p, 9/15/22
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https://www.sbnation.com/platform/amp/soccer/2022/9/15/23354678/world-cup-kits-2022-uniforms-best-and-worst

Love the horrible Puma box things on the away kits.

And Portugal is so bad.
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In reply to Rudyjax • 3:02p, 9/15/22
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Pefolk did well for young boys and is lighting up the Bundesliga.

Is it possible there was pressure to have another Hispanic American on the team?
Really comes down to how Berhalter views the skillset for his strikers. Pepi fits his want better than Pefok in terms of how he wants the striker to play. Don't think Pefok can do the pressing that Pepi, Sargent and Fereira nor the dropping into midfield like Pepi and Fereira can.
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In reply to akm91 • 3:08p, 9/15/22
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That's the talking points that have been spread on the decision. But me personally I like not only goals Pefok is scoring but also the change in style.


But one thing I keep coming back to is there are no squad limits. Only self imposed ones. Is Gregg making the choice to limit the amount of players or is US Soccer being cheap? This is something I've wondered in past international breaks as well.
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In reply to H.E. Pennypacker • 4:32p, 9/15/22
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H.E. Pennypacker said:
JJxvi said:
Canada had to have requested that look, right?


I'd honestly prefer those in US colors to what we usually get. If you add a collar, and have the shorts/socks be different color than shirt, they'd be perfect.
I just heard that Nike starts development on these 18 months in advance, and they didn't think Canada was going to make it..,.so they didnt actualy design them in advance. WoW
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In reply to Rudyjax • 4:45p, 9/15/22
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Ken Scarborough said:
Ok...i hate to interupt a good ****ting on the on uniform, but wanted to talk about Pepi over Pefollk.

We know Pepi is a favorite of Gggs, but he didn't play well the last time in camp and struggled in the Bundesleiga. He's learning a new team in a lessor league.

Pefolk did well for young boys and is lighting up the Bundesliga.

Is it possible there was pressure to have another Hispanic American on the team?

Did Ggg someone, not Ggg, promise him the WC ?

Is this a bigger snub, if true, than Donovon in 2014?
Pefok has yet to play well for the USMNT, and isnt a player that has looked comfortable pressing.
I think that went into it more than anything.

I dont see how there is any way this is even remotely on level with snubbing Donovan

He is scoring quite a bit of course
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In reply to PatAg • 4:55p, 9/15/22
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So you're saying it took 18 months to perfect the US's crap jersey. Incredible.
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5:06p, 9/15/22
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I wonder if it's partially a team chemistry thing with Pefok, too. He's not comfortable speaking English.
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In reply to deadbq03 • 5:08p, 9/15/22
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deadbq03 said:
I wonder if it's partially a team chemistry thing with Pefok, too. He's not comfortable speaking English.


That would certainly play a factor?
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8:04a, 9/16/22
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Well, crap. Hope he heals up quickly.

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In reply to jeffk • 8:08a, 9/16/22
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Hope Berhalter calls in Williamson as replacement to get him reacqauinted with the group.
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In reply to Rudyjax • 8:57a, 9/16/22
Ken Scarborough said:
Ok...i hate to interupt a good ****ting on the on uniform, but wanted to talk about Pepi over Pefollk.

We know Pepi is a favorite of Gggs, but he didn't play well the last time in camp and struggled in the Bundesleiga. He's learning a new team in a lessor league.

Pefolk did well for young boys and is lighting up the Bundesliga.

Is it possible there was pressure to have another Hispanic American on the team?

Did Ggg someone, not Ggg, promise him the WC ?

Is this a bigger snub, if true, than Donovon in 2014?
very questionable decision based on recent form, agree. no idea the motive
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In reply to bularry • 9:16a, 9/16/22
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I posted a series of comments from GB on hist roster choices a few pages back and to me it seems like he knows what Pefok is capable of and is giving Pepi one more chance to get back on track before the WC roster is announced.

This is a good read too - http://www.americansoccernow.com/articles/analysis-thoughts-and-takeaways-from-berhalter-s-media-call
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9:38a, 9/16/22
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Cardosa is Musah's replacement in camp.

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