It was of the updated wind field. Seabrook Kemah area "could" see winds of 64 knots which is around 74 mph. Not good but a hell of alot better than the alternative a 100 miles down the road.
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How is the wobble?
Just saw Chita wore red today. You know **** is about to get real.
This storm surge SUCKS
Worried this thing is gonna jack up a bunch of prime costal fishing waters.
BohunkAg said:
This storm surge SUCKS
Won't that put most of Lake Charles underwater?
Weebles may wobble but they won't fall down.
we dodged the biggest f-ing bullet
My parents live in lake Charles. Right in the middle of this peninsula of Prien Lake. They are about 30 minutes from my house right now. They were planning on riding this out, but the storm surge projections are no bueno.
For perspective, the casinos are about 2 miles north as the crow flies.
For perspective, the casinos are about 2 miles north as the crow flies.
which is why Berger's the sciguy, not the engrguy
"Houston as we know it would be be pretty much gone."
Isn't that a little (or lot) dramatic?
Isn't that a little (or lot) dramatic?
Increased usage of structural shear walls and stricter code requirements on the construction of building exteriors would be my guess.
Are you further inland than your parents, I assume? I would definitely not let them ride that out in the location you showed if you can help it. I went through Harvey and speak from recent experience.
Thoughts and prayers to you and yours. I believe the Lord will be with you guys, but - at the same time - please be extremely careful.
Thoughts and prayers to you and yours. I believe the Lord will be with you guys, but - at the same time - please be extremely careful.
lol who going to fund all that digging
why build infrastructure to withstand natural disasters endemic to the area and ruin all those feel good stories of people being rescued by boat or neighbor helping neighbor by sharing a generator?
I thought they were supposed to be "weather without the hype"MAS444 said:
"Houston as we know it would be be pretty much gone."
Isn't that a little (or lot) dramatic?
We are trying to organize some post Laura assistance. Please let us know if we can doing anything for your parents after the storm.
Feel free to email jdlco2005 at gmail. No idea how any of this is going to shake out but if we can help we will.
Feel free to email jdlco2005 at gmail. No idea how any of this is going to shake out but if we can help we will.
Ag12thman said:
Are you further inland than your parents, I assume? I would definitely not let them ride that out in the location you showed if you can help it. I went through Harvey and speak from recent experience.
Thoughts and prayers to you and yours. I believe the Lord will be with you guys, but - at the same time - please be extremely careful.
I'm in NW Houston.
cmag said:I thought they were supposed to be "weather without the hype"MAS444 said:
"Houston as we know it would be be pretty much gone."
Isn't that a little (or lot) dramatic?
That only applies to their website. Twitter is still fair game for anything
They are coming to stay with you then? Glad to hear that.
My family lives in Dallas not far north of where the tornados tore through Preston Hollow last October. Winds there were 140 miles per hour and even driving through there as recently as this past weekend it is still recovering. Trees wiped out, roof and whole houses being rebuilt. Shopping center and schools still rebuilding.MAS444 said:
"Houston as we know it would be be pretty much gone."
Isn't that a little (or lot) dramatic?
Not too dramatic to say that IMO, given the scale difference b/t a blocks-wide tornado and miles-wide hurricane.
Hope their place gets through it okay.cgh1999 said:Ag12thman said:
Are you further inland than your parents, I assume? I would definitely not let them ride that out in the location you showed if you can help it. I went through Harvey and speak from recent experience.
Thoughts and prayers to you and yours. I believe the Lord will be with you guys, but - at the same time - please be extremely careful.
I'm in NW Houston.
yes, which is why every time someone cites Space City Weather as being science-driven I roll my eyes and chuckle.MAS444 said:
"Houston as we know it would be be pretty much gone."
Isn't that a little (or lot) dramatic?
Quote:
Hype-free forecasts for greater Houston with Eric Berger and Matt Lanza, powered by Reliant
The site has a sponsor and wants to drive clicks, so Eric Berger has an act and not having an act is his act.
I don't know if they will actually see storm surge on that lake that far north, but No way I would stay for the wind show or the after affects.
what effect do you think 15-20 foot storm surge would have on the refineries, etc, along the ship channel area?cmag said:I thought they were supposed to be "weather without the hype"MAS444 said:
"Houston as we know it would be be pretty much gone."
Isn't that a little (or lot) dramatic?
i'm not an expert, but i imagine they are aren't that high up? i could be completely mistaken, though.
Thank you. I've got as many feelers out as possible as well, any specific leads are greatly appreciated.
1. Private Developers (speaking as one) already will volunteer sometimes to do that, cost isn't small but is a line item in budgets and you figure it out.cone said:
lol who going to fund all that digging
2. Centepoint, and downstream electricity users. Cost would equate to a couple extra cents/dollars a year.
They'd probably have to replace a lot of equipment and would be offline for awhile. I *think* industrial facilities are generally designed to be elevated to the 50 or 100 year base flood elevation depending on the risk tolerance of the owner (or whoever originally developed the facility). Maybe some long lead and highly expensive components are elevated higher?
he's got a point
but some of those line items are better handled by personal generators and existing buried utility lines (natural gas) than 10s of billions (lowball?) in retrofitting
it might be far cheaper to just give people tax funded rebates on natgas gensets (rather than solar panels)
who knows? digging is ridiculously expensive.
but some of those line items are better handled by personal generators and existing buried utility lines (natural gas) than 10s of billions (lowball?) in retrofitting
it might be far cheaper to just give people tax funded rebates on natgas gensets (rather than solar panels)
who knows? digging is ridiculously expensive.
Moving all transmission and distribution lines underground would cost customers substantially more than a few dollars per year.
I'll try to find PG&E's estimate for moving high risk lines underground. The cost was astronomical.
Here it is:
Distribution lines $1-5MM per mile. Overhead lines are $0.5 MM per mile but, since those are already installed, the incremental cost is 100% if the underground line amount. It would also take longer to install underground lines if they were used to replace damaged overhead lines, so outages would be a lot longer.
CenterPoint has 28,000 miles of overhead distribution lines so roughly 60 billion to replace with underground lines.
I don't think the economics would ever make sense.
I'll try to find PG&E's estimate for moving high risk lines underground. The cost was astronomical.
Here it is:
Distribution lines $1-5MM per mile. Overhead lines are $0.5 MM per mile but, since those are already installed, the incremental cost is 100% if the underground line amount. It would also take longer to install underground lines if they were used to replace damaged overhead lines, so outages would be a lot longer.
CenterPoint has 28,000 miles of overhead distribution lines so roughly 60 billion to replace with underground lines.
I don't think the economics would ever make sense.
Looks like the NHC's projections are showing 3 - 9 feet of water possible, though some of the higher parts of the peninsula may not see any flooding, and that would not be exactly clean water either.cgh1999 said:
My parents live in lake Charles. Right in the middle of this peninsula of Prien Lake. They are about 30 minutes from my house right now. They were planning on riding this out, but the storm surge projections are no bueno.
For perspective, the casinos are about 2 miles north as the crow flies.
https://www.nhc.noaa.gov/refresh/graphics_at3+shtml/151358.shtml?inundation#contents
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