***Official USMNT-WCQ Octagonal Thread***

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In reply to jeffk • 8:08p, 3/28/22
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We desperately need to find a backup left back. Dest is good emergency but would feel better knowing that we have someone to back up Jedi without sacrificing the right back position.

Still hoping Scally gets integrated into the program to see what he can do during Nation's League.
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In reply to Rudyjax • 8:15p, 3/28/22
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Aye Davanita said:
I'm so glad to hear this. I do think the third foul on Pulsic was persistence.

Why no card for someone kicking the ball at Del La Torre and Pulisic tho?


Is it Violent Conduct? Yep. The refs including the 4th had their hands full keeping everyone from being stupid on the field. It would have taken VAR to intervene and show who kicked/threw it. My guess is either they had no video angle and couldn't see who it was or just wanted to let it go.

Nic Otamendi in the last WC not once but twice intentionally blasted a ball at the head of a down player after a whistle and never even got a yellow much less a red.
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In reply to akm91 • 8:46p, 3/28/22
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We could annex Canada and claim Davies as our own.
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In reply to akm91 • 8:48p, 3/28/22
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akm91 said:
We desperately need to find a backup left back. Dest is good emergency but would feel better knowing that we have someone to back up Jedi without sacrificing the right back position.

Still hoping Scally gets integrated into the program to see what he can do during Nation's League.


We need a striker more. I have no idea who should be our #9. No consistency in any of them right now.
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In reply to Mathguy64 • 8:53p, 3/28/22
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s it Violent Conduct? Yep. The refs including the 4th had their hands full keeping everyone from being stupid on the field. It would have taken VAR to intervene and show who kicked/threw it. My guess is either they had no video angle and couldn't see who it was or just wanted to let it go.


I certainly hope it was the former.
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11:31a, 3/29/22
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I think we need a game thread…
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In reply to fig96 • 11:40a, 3/29/22
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I'M TRYING TO CATCH UP ON GRADING.
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In reply to jeffk • 11:58a, 3/29/22
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jeffk said:
We could annex Canada and claim Davies as our own.
And get Lewandowski to file a one time switch?
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In reply to akm91 • 12:30p, 3/29/22
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akm91 said:
jeffk said:
We could annex Canada and claim Davies as our own.
And get Lewandowski to file a one time switch?


I'd prefer Haaland. He's much younger.
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1:23p, 3/29/22
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Going into final round of games, still something for teams to play for. Canada is qualified and Mexico and USA are all but qualified. Costa Rica is assured top 4, so the 4 top places are set, only question is who finishes in what places and who has to go to Qatar for one game playoff against Oceania Champion (New Zealand or Solomon Islands). Canada, US and Mex still want to do well to earn a better seeding in Friday's WC draw.

Current Standings (all teams have played 13 games)
1. Canada--Q 28pts (+17)
2, USA. 25pts (+13)
3. Mexico 25 points (+7)
4. Costa Rica 22 Points (+3)
5. Panama--E 18 points
6. El Salvador--E 10 points
7. Jamaica--E 8 points
8. Honduras--E 4 points

Final Round of Games (all games begin at 8:05 pm CST on Wednesday)
Panama v. Canada (Panama City-Paramount+)
Jamaica v. Honduras (Kingston-Paramount+)
Mexico v. El Salvador (Mexico City-Paramount+, Univision)
Costa Rica v. US (San Jose--CBS Sports Network, Paramount+)

US still has a chance, with a Canada loss and a win at Costa Rica, to finish top of the table, would need to make up a 4 goal difference). Of course with a bad loss the US could still also finish 4th, but that would require Costa Rica to win by 6 goals.

So unless something cataclysmic happens it looks like we will have 3 auto qualifiers in Canada, USA and Mexico and Costa Rica will go to the playoff game against what will in all likelihood be New Zealand.



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1:41p, 3/29/22
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There's also a very remote possibility that if we win, mexico draws/loses, Netherlands lose/draw to Germany, and Portugal loses to North Macedonia. That we could be the last team in Pot A for the World Cup Group Stage draw on Friday.

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1:46p, 3/29/22
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Fun whatif scenarios

https://stattosoftware.com/wc2022/

Best case(s)
USA (pot A)
Iran
Cameroon
New Zealand

Group A
Qatar
USA
Egypt
Wales


Worst Case
Brazil
USA
Poland
Saudi Arabia
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In reply to DeangeloVickers • 1:49p, 3/29/22
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DeangeloVickers said:
Fun whatif scenarios

https://stattosoftware.com/wc2022/
Lol 1st simulation

Group A
Qatar
USA
Morocco
Ukraine
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In reply to wangus12 • 1:51p, 3/29/22
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wangus12 said:
DeangeloVickers said:
Fun whatif scenarios

https://stattosoftware.com/wc2022/
Lol 1st simulation

Group A
Qatar
USA
Morocco
Ukraine
Just go ahead and sign us up for that now
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In reply to DeangeloVickers • 2:06p, 3/29/22
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we know what it'll be.

Quote:
Worst Case
Brazil
USA
Poland
Saudi Arabia
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In reply to DeangeloVickers • 2:27p, 3/29/22
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DeangeloVickers said:
Fun what-if scenarios

https://stattosoftware.com/wc2022/

Best case(s)
USA (pot A)
Iran
Cameroon
New Zealand

Group A
Qatar
USA
Egypt
Wales


Worst Case
Brazil
USA
Poland
Saudi Arabia
Not sure if I'd classify Egypt and Wales as best case scenario. Mainly due to the star Power in Salah and Bale. Not in their last World Cup, but at least the last in their prime.
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In reply to Rudyjax • 2:28p, 3/29/22
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Aye Davanita said:
we know what it'll be.

Quote:
Worst Case
Brazil
USA
Poland
Ghana
FIFY
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In reply to wangus12 • 2:37p, 3/29/22
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Ghana
why say this? it doesnt help. all its going to do is make us all angry
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In reply to wangus12 • 2:37p, 3/29/22
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In reply to Legal Custodian • 2:53p, 3/29/22
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Legal Custodian said:
DeangeloVickers said:
Fun what-if scenarios

https://stattosoftware.com/wc2022/

Best case(s)
USA (pot A)
Iran
Cameroon
New Zealand

Group A
Qatar
USA
Egypt
Wales


Worst Case
Brazil
USA
Poland
Saudi Arabia
Not sure if I'd classify Egypt and Wales as best case scenario. Mainly due to the star Power in Salah and Bale. Not in their last World Cup, but at least the last in their prime.


Don't have to worry about Egypt anymore
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In reply to Legal Custodian • 3:11p, 3/29/22
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Legal Custodian said:
DeangeloVickers said:
Fun what-if scenarios

https://stattosoftware.com/wc2022/

Best case(s)
USA (pot A)
Iran
Cameroon
New Zealand

Group A
Qatar
USA
Egypt
Wales


Worst Case
Brazil
USA
Poland
Saudi Arabia
Not sure if I'd classify Egypt and Wales as best case scenario. Mainly due to the star Power in Salah and Bale. Not in their last World Cup, but at least the last in their prime.


Dels Bale even play anymore?
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3:34p, 3/29/22
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It would be pretty sweet to go down and get our first win in qualfiying @Costa Rica, and win by 2-3 goals while doing it. All while Canada also loses.
Canada could stand to be knocked down a peg or two.
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In reply to Rudyjax • 3:37p, 3/29/22
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Yeah, and he scored a worldie in their match last week.
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In reply to Rudyjax • 4:27p, 3/29/22
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Yes, at a pretty high rate.
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In reply to Aston94 • 4:36p, 3/29/22
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Aston94 said:
Yes, at a pretty high rate.


Bales order of importance and performance

Wales>>>>>Golf>>>>>>>club team
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7:09p, 3/29/22
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If you weren't already hating Canada, you should be.
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In reply to PatAg • 7:13p, 3/29/22
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Now I want to see them crash out in group.
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In reply to PatAg • 7:24p, 3/29/22
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I think they're gonna get a rude awakening. They sat back and absorbed loads of pressure in the majority of their games and won the counter. It won't work as well against better teams than CONCACAF. We probably win in Canada if we could've have finished our chances. Better teams will.

Also it's a bit ingenious to say their an MLS team when 15 of their most recent 23 play in Europe, including a highly regarded young striker and arguably the best LWB in the world. 17 of the 23 Americans play in Europe for comparison.
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In reply to PatAg • 10:45a, 3/30/22
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Anyone want to tell them their best player currently plays for Bayern? LOL
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11:10a, 3/30/22
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Solomon Islands v. New Zealand is today at noon. Winner of that game will take on 4th place Concacaf team for WC spot.
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In reply to fig96 • 11:22a, 3/30/22
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It would depend on the group I suppose. Guess we'll see how they do outside CONCACAAF
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In reply to Aston94 • 11:37a, 3/30/22
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Aston94 said:
Solomon Islands v. New Zealand is today at noon. Winner of that game will take on 4th place Concacaf team for WC spot.
Damn, that'd be cool for a country of less than 1mm going to the World cup or at least the play in. Unlikely, but cool af.
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12:28p, 3/30/22
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Looks like NZ just went up 1-0 on 23 minutes.
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In reply to Rudyjax • 12:50p, 3/30/22
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Aye Davanita said:
Aston94 said:
Solomon Islands v. New Zealand is today at noon. Winner of that game will take on 4th place Concacaf team for WC spot.
Damn, that'd be cool for a country of less than 1mm going to the World cup or at least the play in. Unlikely, but cool af.
Iceland made it in 2018 with a population of like 400,000...if that.
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12:56p, 3/30/22
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2-0 NZ
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