***Official USMNT-WCQ Octagonal Thread***

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jeffk said:

We will absolutely need some ****housery specialists vs Panama and Jamaica and the Ticos.

Edit - I can't read schedules for crap this morning.
Oh yeah, I remember those Dynamo v Arabe Unido matches where the announcers said that the stretcher should be MOM.
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Canadians have away @ Azteca and @ Jamaica in this window. We should be able to separate from them a little bit if we take care of business.
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I have a feeling that Richards wont break into the Bayern first team and we will either see him on another team in the Bundesliga or in the Prem.
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KCup17 said:

I have a feeling that Richards wont break into the Bayern first team and we will either see him on another team in the Bundesliga or in the Prem.


You mean like starting for Hoffenheim?
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Kevin the 3-legged dog said:

KCup17 said:

I have a feeling that Richards wont break into the Bayern first team and we will either see him on another team in the Bundesliga or in the Prem.


You mean like starting for Hoffenheim?
I believe he means contractually; not a loan move.
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Some of the largest European clubs invest a lot of money to sign guys and then loan them out every year to foster their development and see if they become good enough to be in their squad. It's not necessarily a bad sign that some of our guys are not making first team squads and being loaned, as they are still getting first team minutes and being developed in Europe. (Richards- Bayern, CCV- Tottenham, Miazga- Chelsea, etc.). It has already paid off for Steffen who City loaded for a while before he finally made the squad at City. It's actually much better for Richards to be getting first team minutes at Hoffenheim right now than only playing in certain cup games and being excluded from the starting XI often in Bundesliga and Champions League games at Bayern.
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akm91 said:

Kevin the 3-legged dog said:

KCup17 said:

I have a feeling that Richards wont break into the Bayern first team and we will either see him on another team in the Bundesliga or in the Prem.


You mean like starting for Hoffenheim?
I believe he means contractually; not a loan move.


That's not what he said.
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Well I was responding to a post that had to do with clubs wanting to buy Richards... a permanent deal was already implied.
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KCup17 said:

Well I was responding to a post that had to do with clubs wanting to buy Richards... a permanent deal was already implied.


But I'm a dog so reading between the lines is not my srenghty.
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ahh yes. I keep forgetting that you are the wonder dog that has learned to type.
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KCup17 said:

ahh yes. I keep forgetting that you are the wonder dog that has learned to type.


Type? You think I have fingers? All voice.
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This thread just got weird...
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Aston94 said:

This thread just got weird...
Sadly not even close to being on the weird ****-o-meter around here this week.
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Nagelsmann likes working with young players.

Nagelsmann also likes using a back 3.

So getting playing time at Bayern might not be as crazy as y'all think it is.
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Aston94 said:

This thread just got weird...
Only because someone woke on on the @ss side of the bed today
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I think it is more of a system thing. Leipzig has been better about bringing up younger players into their first team squad while it is harder at Bayern since they poach the best players from other teams. For example, this off season, Richards was playing well on loan and there had been talks that he could break into the first team then Bayern go an buy Upamecano from Leipzig.

Would love to see him play for Bayern however the mentality they take towards transfers makes it difficult to break through the first team for young prospect players.
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Interesting

akm91
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That ruling is so anti-science.
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Oh, lord. Please don't derail our WCQ thread please.
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Great news for Antonee, Steffen, and Ream.

Wonder if knowing that before naming roster would have affected the Pulisic/Sargent exclusions any?
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Yeah, I wondered the same. Although I think Chelsea was pretty reluctant to let him go this month regardless.
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jeffk said:

Oh, lord. Please don't derail our WCQ thread please.
Sorry, won't derail again.

The ruling does make the 27 man roster even more flexible. I'm hoping to see Antonee get 3 starts with Bello spelling him in two of the matches.
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It's cool, I wasn't trying to lambast you, I could just see that taking off for about 10 pages.
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Can someone with more soccer knowledge answer this question for me?

What skills or ability makes Sergino Dest better suited at outside back instead of a midfielder?
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jeffk said:

It's cool, I wasn't trying to lambast you, I could just see that taking off for about 10 pages.
Exactly, we have enough talking dog discussion on this thread as is, we don't need Covid theories too.


Glad to hear there is a way that they can play the Panama game.

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Don't believe Pulisic has played for Chelsea since his injury, so pretty sure they wouldn't be keen for his first match back to be playing for the US.
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Chelsea is dealing with multiple other injuries-don't want Pulisic to get concacafed again.
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TamuKid said:

Great news for Antonee, Steffen, and Ream.

Wonder if knowing that before naming roster would have affected the Pulisic/Sargent exclusions any?

Pulisic. No.

Sargent maybe.
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Ghost of Andrew Eaton said:

Can someone with more soccer knowledge answer this question for me?

What skills or ability makes Sergino Dest better suited at outside back instead of a midfielder?


Skill-wise? Maybe just a lack of finishing touch. I honestly think he may be an outside mid at some point. His mindset takes him to places I don't really want my marking backs going.
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jeffk said:

It's cool, I wasn't trying to lambast you, I could just see that taking off for about 10 pages.
there shall be no lambasting here
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Ghost of Andrew Eaton said:

Can someone with more soccer knowledge answer this question for me?

What skills or ability makes Sergino Dest better suited at outside back instead of a midfielder?
he was probably developed as a full back growing up (assuming he was a winger as an early youth) due to his end line to end line fitness and sprint speed. Your central midfielders need box to box fitness but they are more typically the most skillful technical players with ability to make all different kinds of turns and distribute with flawless precision- but don't necessarily always need the speed & fitness as a full back does
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Dest is a wingback. There is little difference between a wing back and a winger except how forward they are deployed on the field. IMO being played as a fullback in a back four or without central midfield cover is playing him out of position
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This. Which is why we, horrified, get to watch him repeatedly attempt to dribble around opposing players in our own defensive third.
 
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