***Official USMNT-WCQ Octagonal Thread***

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deadbq03 said:

caleblyn said:

Who developed our schedule? Must have been the BigXII commissioner.
It is pretty crappy that we're playing the 3 teams that qualified in 2018 in this final window.
Alternate view: the schedule was set up to qualify in January and we botched it
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Edit: think you're correct
People think I'm an idiot or something, because all I do is cut lawns for a living.
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Is this right? Their four goals up are also our four goals down. I'm not a biologist, but I don't think you're correct…
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aggiephoenix02 said:

Is this right? Their four goals up are also our four goals down. I'm not a biologist, but I don't think you're correct…
Yes, posted before checking table and checking math. Edited to credit. Didn't factor the match vs US in the calculations, brain fart.
People think I'm an idiot or something, because all I do is cut lawns for a living.
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Anytime a goal is scored there is a plus differential added to the scoring time and minus to the team that allowed the goal. So if Costa Rica beats us by 3, they'll gain 3 and we'll lose 3 for a net change of 6 for Costa Rica relative to us.

ETA: you're correct. I was thinking of something carl spackler said earlier.
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CRC up at ht 2-1. Come on El Salvador!!
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I know, that's what I said…
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I absolutely love how Pulisic is a world class player, but has also been seasoned by our dirty neighborhood CONCACAF. You can't be a true USMNT player without a firm grasp on how to navigate and negotiate CONCACAF play…
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So how do we clinch?
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Alright get Pulisic out now. Beautiful 3rd goal
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Phat32 said:

So how do we clinch?


Don't lose by 6 on Wednesday and we are good
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We're going to the World Cup, guys!

My biggest fear is that I'm never sure if I'll live long enough to see the USMNT in the next World Cup, and missing the last one weighed on me heavily. But the past is behind us, and I now have this summer…
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Don't they normally announce the World Cup draw after the one-game playoffs are over?
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Yes but this is the Qatar World Cup and it's special in every way
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By the way, if Mexico loses and we lose by 6, we still advance.
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oragator said:

By the way, if Mexico loses and we lose by 6, we still advance.
haha…
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And oh by the way, how big was that point in Mexico now?
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oragator said:

By the way, if Mexico loses and we lose by 6, we still advance.


Is there a scenario where they don't qualify? Asking for a whole country.
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I would never do this, but I saw that we could forfeit the game and lose 3-0.
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boogieman said:

oragator said:

By the way, if Mexico loses and we lose by 6, we still advance.


Is there a scenario where they don't qualify? Asking for a whole country.
Similar to ours.
If we lose to Costa Rica, and Mexico loses to El Salvador, Costa Rica has to make up a 4 goal differential on Mexico

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boogieman said:

oragator said:

By the way, if Mexico loses and we lose by 6, we still advance.


Is there a scenario where they don't qualify? Asking for a whole country.


NM. I can't read. Thought you were taking about USMNT.
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Is a forfeit a 3-0 loss still? Semi-serious question

nvm someone already asked
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PatAg said:

I would never do this, but I saw that we could forfeit the game and lose 3-0.
Would be a shame if the entire team went to Disney World celebrating the win and caught COVID…
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About the shifting Captains armband…

Gregg said in his post game interview that Pulisic is on the leadership council, and they (the captain) are picked from that leadership council. Do the coaches or players pick them? Idk.

I'd still prefer one captain…
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We're going to the World Cup, boys, we're going to the World Cup…
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aggiephoenix02 said:

About the shifting Captains armband…

Gregg said in his post game interview that Pulisic is on the leadership council, and they (the captain) are picked from that leadership council. Do the coaches or players pick them? Idk.

I'd still prefer one captain…
Update, Gregg later clarified that he and his coaches pick the captain from the leadership group…

Edit to add: Gregg said they picked Pulisic this game because of his journey up to this point. The fact that he was a veteran leader, he was on the field when we failed to qualify for the 2018 World Cup played into the decision.

I'm officially all in on Gregg.

Other posters in this board have been very critical of him, but I've always been reserved in my judgment. I always liked him as a player, and knew as a coach it was an on the job training situation.

I'm all in on Gregg…
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Interesting
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Boy if Francisco Calvo is considered "crucial" for you that's a problem
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PatAg said:



Interesting
Playing for the playoff. This is big good for USA!
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PatAg said:



Interesting
Maybe Costa Rica should consider taking the 3-0 forfeiture to protect players for the playoff.
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EastSideAg2002 said:

PatAg said:



Interesting
Maybe Costa Rica should consider taking the 3-0 forfeiture to protect players for the playoff.


I've been waiting for the opt out scene to make it to soccer!
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New Zealand is likely to come out of oceania.
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That being said, I want another meaningful game, and I want us to go down with the mindset that we are beating their ass at their house.
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Sorta like:

USA 3 - Costa Rica 1
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Everybody here knows it but this is now the current table standings:

Canada - 28pts (AQ - Automatically Qualified)
USA - 25pts (+13 in goal differential)
Mexico - 25pts (+7 in GF)
Costa Rica - 22pts (+3 in GF)
Panama - 18pts (Eliminated from World Cup 2022)

Ways for US to automatically qualify:
Don't lose to Costa Rica by 6+ goals

Ways for Mexico to qualify:
Different ways, but mainly don't lose to El Salvador and have Costa Rica beat USA and make up a 4+ GF

Worst Case scenario table:
Canada - 31pts (AQ)
Mexico - 28pts (AQ)
Costa Rica - 25pts (+9)
USA - 25pts (+7)

Best Case scenario table:
Canada - 28pts (AQ)
USA - 25pts (AQ +9 GF)
Costa Rica - 25pts (AQ +7 GF)
Mexico - 25pts (Playoff +6 GF)
 
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