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LEJ
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In reply to 44mAG • 4:46p, 1/30/19
44mAG said:
So, if you do get drawn, your points go to zero, correct? I would also assume that you are not allowed to buy a point in the summer if you get drawn this year?


Im not 100 certain but generally, if you draw with your first choice (in CO for instance), points go to 0. If you draw with your 2nd choice, you get a point and retain others you already have.

I don't think you could buy a point after drawing but man I'm not 100% certain
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In reply to 98Ag99Grad • 4:48p, 1/30/19
98Ag99Grad said:
Are these for a public land hunt?


Mainly, but you do have to get drawn for private land hunts in some cases as well.
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5:01p, 1/30/19
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For anyone just getting started who doesn't want to play the points game or is concerned with point creep, you can typically buy landowner tags in the year you know you want to hunt. I've seen mule deer tags as low as $500 to elk tags over $10k.

For now, I don't mind playing the points game. It gives me options for relatively inexpensive hunts each year.
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6:30p, 1/30/19
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So for a first timer like myself, I would be better suited to just start collecting points in say CO, W, MT and then use this year to start prepping and accumulating gear? I feel like if I some how landed a tag this year I would be extremely under prepared.
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In reply to TexasAg2017 • 6:34p, 1/30/19
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TexasAg2017 said:
So for a first timer like myself, I would be better suited to just start collecting points in say CO, W, MT and then use this year to start prepping and accumulating gear? I feel like if I some how landed a tag this year I would be extremely under prepared.


That doesn't mean it wouldn't be a memorable and enriching experience.

Nobody is getting any younger. Go every year you are able.
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6:50p, 1/30/19
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2nd what Shayne said. Put in for a hunt or two that you would like to try. If you draw, great! Get some help and go learn! If you don't, make sure you get your points, and try to tag along with someone who did draw if at all possible. That learning curve will be there for your first hunt regardless of if it's this year or next.

You could also get points, and then get an OTC or leftover tag somewhere (over the counter, no points). That would be a good way to learn (lower chance of success, but hunting just the same) without burning years of points.
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7:02p, 1/30/19
Go man! It's the only way to really get hooked.
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In reply to 44mAG • 7:06p, 1/30/19
That is my understanding. But I am very new at this game .
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In reply to cupofjoe04 • 7:08p, 1/30/19
This is good advice.

You might learn, perhaps, How far can a flat landing desk jockey drag an antelope before his lungs burn like fire?

So I've heard.
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7:11p, 1/30/19
It looks like this year will be trying to fit in a late season doe (maybe cow) hunt while visiting family in Wyoming.

But I am piecing together a crew of BAMF Killing machines for a 2020 mulie/antelope hunt.
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7:26p, 1/30/19
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First time last year (MT general tag) was unsuccessful, mostly miserable weather, and I can't wait to give it a second go!
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In reply to agenjake • 7:34p, 1/30/19
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Did you make an antelope backpack?

Shot my first antelope this year, had to move it a little over a mile after. I drug it a little ways, then sat down and thought there must be a better way. Gut it, drain and dry as best you can- then tie the legs together and you can sling it on top of your shoulders like a pack. Not too bad carrying one like that, made it a TON easier not dragging and catching on every bush. Make sure to put some orange on it if on public lands...
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In reply to cupofjoe04 • 7:53p, 1/30/19
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cupofjoe04 said:
2nd what Shayne said. Put in for a hunt or two that you would like to try. If you draw, great! Get some help and go learn! If you don't, make sure you get your points, and try to tag along with someone who did draw if at all possible. That learning curve will be there for your first hunt regardless of if it's this year or next.

You could also get points, and then get an OTC or leftover tag somewhere (over the counter, no points). That would be a good way to learn (lower chance of success, but hunting just the same) without burning years of points.


Never thought about it like that! Looks like I'll be doing some more research for WY and MT tomorrow. Gonna keep an eye on this thread and see what I can learn.
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In reply to cupofjoe04 • 7:59p, 1/30/19
cupofjoe04 said:
Did you make an antelope backpack?


No, I didn't, but should have. Drug one out about 900 yards or so. Then the next day we took turns dragging my FILs out about 1 mile. I've already told myself I am carrying the next one out like a pack or quartered up.
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In reply to TexasAg2017 • 8:40p, 1/30/19
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TexasAg2017 said:
So for a first timer like myself, I would be better suited to just start collecting points in say CO, W, MT and then use this year to start prepping and accumulating gear? I feel like if I some how landed a tag this year I would be extremely under prepared.

Already some good responses to this but if a DIY elk trip in year one seems too daunting consider doing a Wyoming antelope hunt. You'll pickup a lot of that same gear and actually get to use it in the field a little but on a much less stressful hunt with higher odds of success compared to backcountry elk or high country mule deer. Options are limited with zero points but it can be done. The research you do trying to figure out what unit to hunt, where the public land is, how to access it plus the logistics of driving long distance to hunt DIY will carry over to elk, mulies and all other western big game hunting.
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9:10p, 1/30/19
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Bought an OTC Idaho elk tag already for 2019. Also in the elk draw for Wy and Az so far.
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In reply to BullSprig07 • 9:22p, 1/30/19
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Water Turkey07 said:
TexasAg2017 said:
So for a first timer like myself, I would be better suited to just start collecting points in say CO, W, MT and then use this year to start prepping and accumulating gear? I feel like if I some how landed a tag this year I would be extremely under prepared.

Already some good responses to this but if a DIY elk trip in year one seems too daunting consider doing a Wyoming antelope hunt. You'll pickup a lot of that same gear and actually get to use it in the field a little but on a much less stressful hunt with higher odds of success compared to backcountry elk or high country mule seer. Options are limited with zero points but it can be done. The research you do trying to figure out what unit to hunt, where the public land is, how to access it plus the logistics of driving long distance to hunt DIY will carry over to elk, mulies and all other western big game hunting.


This is really really good advice
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9:27p, 1/30/19
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Anyone have advice (or a website for info) on a Pacific NW hunt? I've been dreaming of chasing elk or deer in those misty mountians.
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In reply to BullSprig07 • 7:06a, 1/31/19
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Water Turkey07 said:
TexasAg2017 said:
So for a first timer like myself, I would be better suited to just start collecting points in say CO, W, MT and then use this year to start prepping and accumulating gear? I feel like if I some how landed a tag this year I would be extremely under prepared.

Already some good responses to this but if a DIY elk trip in year one seems too daunting consider doing a Wyoming antelope hunt. You'll pickup a lot of that same gear and actually get to use it in the field a little but on a much less stressful hunt with higher odds of success compared to backcountry elk or high country mule deer. Options are limited with zero points but it can be done. The research you do trying to figure out what unit to hunt, where the public land is, how to access it plus the logistics of driving long distance to hunt DIY will carry over to elk, mulies and all other western big game hunting.


I'm going to look into this as well! I'll see what I can figure out and post any questions I find. Isn't the WY deadline today??
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In reply to TexasAg2017 • 7:41a, 1/31/19
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Wyoming deadlines are:

non resident elk deadline today. (1/31)

Sheep, Moose, Goat, and Bison - 2/28

Deer and Anteloper 5/31
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1:38p, 1/31/19
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Who is game for a TA2019WSDD outing at the total archery challenge in San Antonio?

Agingcowboy and I went last year, and I know a few other of you guys went as well. I'm definitely going one day, but am trying to talk my wife into going to visit some of her friends and making a weekend of it.
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In reply to shaynew1 • 1:42p, 1/31/19
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I'm game to do it again.
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In reply to cupofjoe04 • 1:47p, 1/31/19
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cupofjoe04 said:
Anyone have advice (or a website for info) on a Pacific NW hunt? I've been dreaming of chasing elk or deer in those misty mountians.
no idea but a Rosie is on my bucket list!
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1:50p, 1/31/19
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THEN WE FLING ARROWS AND EAT STEAKS
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In reply to Charismatic Megafauna • 2:15p, 1/31/19
NRD09 said:
cupofjoe04 said:
Anyone have advice (or a website for info) on a Pacific NW hunt? I've been dreaming of chasing elk or deer in those misty mountians.
no idea but a Rosie is on my bucket list!


Search some of Cody Rich's podcasts. He's originally from Oregon and grew up hunting Rosie's. One of my favorite podcasts is of him interviewing a guy about Roosevelt elk and how he uses his ranger finder as his only "glass" bc everything is so thick. I've emailed Cody several times and if you catch him just right you can get a lot of good banter in with him.

Edit. It's EP 245 Big Roosevelt bulls with Roy Kosydar

https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/the-rich-outdoors-hunting-podcast/id981781015?mt=2&i=1000414740009
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In reply to LEJ • 3:03p, 1/31/19
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The Rich Outdoors has some good content
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3:06p, 1/31/19
I honestly think he has the best.
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4:14p, 1/31/19
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Some good advice on everything so far. Just echoing the sentiment to get out and go. Ask questions to everyone. And, "If you don't do it this year, you'll be one year older when you do".

Also, I picked up a Black Diamond Mega mid floor less tipi of Craigslist super cheap to try out this year. I forsee adding a stove for it in my future if I end up liking it.
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5:08p, 1/31/19
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I used to carry a tarp as a kitchen/gear shelter and have replaced it with a megamid. Well worth the extra couple ounces to be able to get completely out of the elements. Also makes a great summer family tent in nest-only mode
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In reply to Charismatic Megafauna • 5:55p, 1/31/19
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Awesome. I got the nest as well as the wife said she wouldn't use it without that. I think floorless will be better with the dog too... I was blown away with how light it is. I need to rig up a trekking pole setup vs the aluminum pole tho
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In reply to cupofjoe04 • 11:30p, 1/31/19
cupofjoe04 said:
Anyone have advice (or a website for info) on a Pacific NW hunt? I've been dreaming of chasing elk or deer in those misty mountians.


I know some guys in Northern California. They do more pigs and deer. Not sure that is what you are after.
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11:37p, 1/31/19
Wow. I'm late to the table on this thread. As Joe said, happy to help with Colorado. I know it and the draw statistics really well.

Things have been changing here. Everyone will have to buy a hunting lisence to apply. Much like the other western states. Moose, goat and sheep preference points cost some money.

Any questions, just ask.
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In reply to BradMtn346 • 11:41p, 1/31/19
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Best unit for Muleys, for non-resident, rifle season?

And are you available to guide me ?
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In reply to ttha_aggie_09 • 11:50p, 1/31/19
How many points do you have? Lots of great units. All depends on the points.
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In reply to BradMtn346 • 11:50p, 1/31/19
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Big fat zero ... I'm trying to build them starting this year
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