Joe Boudain said:
this thing is so weird. I can't wait to read the retrospective in 20 years when they're able to dive through and figure out why it killed some healthy 25 year olds and gave fat wheelchair bound 75 year olds the sniffles.
AggieAuditor said:
India is starting to spike again. A new variant will be on the way and round and round we'll go.
I'm starting to think everyone I know has either had it or has been vaccinated (or both like my wife). Gotta think we're burning through it too.cone said:
I work with a bunch of people who live in New Delhi
from what I've come to understand pretty much everyone they know caught it in April
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Should start seeing hospitalizations drop it looks like
80sGeorge said:
So has Cali just not experienced the Delta spike yet or what?
Only LA and SF went to masks. Delta is crushing through San Diego and the state, but as mentioned, vaccination rates are way higher. Unvaccinated in SD County are testing positive 7x more often than the vaccinated, despite being only 25% of the population (up to 85% with one dose).Aston94 said:
California had a Covid surge, but their vaccine compliance is higher than Texas, Florida and the other southern states (California 68%, Texas 49%). Vaccines matter. Their surge wasn't as severe as ours.
They also went back to mask requirements fast. Now whether or not masks work is a debate, but when people are mandated to mask there also comes with that more distancing and less public events where spreading will occur.
some parts of California have likely also already reached herd immunity. Like take Las angeles county for example. that county has confirmed case counts numbering just over 14% of the population. which with their 25,284 deaths would put their ifr at 1.8% which none of us believe. if you use the assumed ifr of 0.34% that my spreadsheet model has for Harris county that would put them at 7.5MM true cases or ~75% of the population. while harris is at 46% of the population. then from vaccines, 64.7% have had at least one does, and 51.8% have had two. from those numbers, there is a very real possibility that nearly every person in LA county has either been vaccinated or had the virus at this point. and that is 25% of their state's population. so it makes sense that California wouldn't see a spike like other states that had not been hit as hard and had lower vaccine rates.Aston94 said:
California had a Covid surge, but their vaccine compliance is higher than Texas, Florida and the other southern states (California 68%, Texas 49%). Vaccines matter. Their surge wasn't as severe as ours.
They also went back to mask requirements fast. Now whether or not masks work is a debate, but when people are mandated to mask there also comes with that more distancing and less public events where spreading will occur.
California saw a spike. Just not as big as Texas.80sGeorge said:
I buy this way more than the vax. Hell Israel is 99% vaxed and saw a spike.
Cali also doesn't have immigrants flooding their border.
BlackGoldAg2011 said:some parts of California have likely also already reached herd immunity. Like take Las angeles county for example. that county has confirmed case counts numbering just over 14% of the population. which with their 25,284 deaths would put their ifr at 1.8% which none of us believe. if you use the assumed ifr of 0.34% that my spreadsheet model has for Harris county that would put them at 7.5MM true cases or ~75% of the population. while harris is at 46% of the population. then from vaccines, 64.7% have had at least one does, and 51.8% have had two. from those numbers, there is a very real possibility that nearly every person in LA county has either been vaccinated or had the virus at this point. and that is 25% of their state's population. so it makes sense that California wouldn't see a spike like other states that had not been hit as hard and had lower vaccine rates.Aston94 said:
California had a Covid surge, but their vaccine compliance is higher than Texas, Florida and the other southern states (California 68%, Texas 49%). Vaccines matter. Their surge wasn't as severe as ours.
They also went back to mask requirements fast. Now whether or not masks work is a debate, but when people are mandated to mask there also comes with that more distancing and less public events where spreading will occur.
BlackGoldAg2011 said:
Israel is 62% vaxed, close though
BlackGoldAg2011 said:
I do believe that is the case, but for population level immunity discussions I've always thought the overall % vaccinated was more useful since even though <12 is ineligible for the vaccine they are still part of the susceptible group.