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The Bubonic Plague was caused by bacteria, not a virus.
Yes we mostly all know this but Clay maybe does not. Which is weird considering how many rats there are in the legal and political professions.

That being said the article Clay is supposedly referencing does seem to appreciate the distinction.
https://english.elpais.com/usa/2022-01-03/omicron-the-fastest-spreading-virus-in-history.html
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Historian and physician Anton Erkoreka researches epidemics from the past, and is flabbergasted by omicron's spread. "It is the most-explosive and the fastest-spreading virus in history," he declared. Erkoreka, director of the Basque Museum of the History of Medicine, recalls that the Black Death (14th century) and 19th-century cholera took years to spread around the world. The so-called Russian flu of 1889, which may have been caused by another coronavirus, required three months to traverse the planet. That is similar to the time taken by the original variant of SARS-CoV-2, detected in December 2019 in Wuhan and already omnipresent by March 2020. "The omicron variant has beaten that record of expansion," Erkoreka said.

Epidemiologist William Hanage, co-director of the Center for Communicable Disease Dynamics at Harvard University, agrees. "Omicron is certainly the most rapidly spreading virus among the ones we have been able to investigate at this level of detail," Hanage noted
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Old Buffalo said:

Glad to see Ol Jock getting his groove on.


Dude is a frequent flyer at council. Grew up in HP with a buddy of mine. Completely unhinged. Oh, and his mom died of RONA last year.
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It is really sweet that you still think about me and pop over from time to time to say hello.
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Flores and Davis have as much chance of winning as me being able to go back in time and dating Monica Belluci at her peak.
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We'll probably need pics to know what kind of odds you'd be up against.
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I look forward to clay's Twitter diarrhea today after the very lobsided Supreme Court decision today.

"We must be vigilant to now triple n95 mask when we leave our homes, and single mask while in our houses. We're just a few short months away from the next variant if our kids still play normally and don't get the vax and mask up"
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I'm wearing my condom now.
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double aught said:

We'll probably need pics to know what kind of odds you'd be up against.
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YouBet said:

double aught said:

We'll probably need pics to know what kind of odds you'd be up against.



I'd get the Rona for that.
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Looks like things are starting to crest for this current wave. We have as many folks in hospital as at the height of last winter's wave, with probably more to come (hospitals lag of course), but outcomes seem better. Percent positive is finally falling after blowing the previous highs out of the water.

Schools and healthcare continue to be dicey, but make it another week or two and things *should* start to normalize.

https://urbanpolicyresearch.org/covid19/county-data-dashboard/

https://www.utsouthwestern.edu/covid-19/assets/modeling.pdf
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WTF did I just watch in that twitter piece? Let me tell you what I think that guy should do...
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In the WSJ today they are reporting that deaths have hit a high but that hospitalizations and cases are on the decline so it does look like we've crested.
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Texas deaths hit no where near with the last spike and I think we'll see actual cases peak was around Jan 13/4/15. Deaths will peak this week at 150, half of the other spikes.
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AggieLostinDallas said:

Texas deaths hit no where near with the last spike and I think we'll see actual cases peak was around Jan 13/4/15. Deaths will peak this week at 150, half of the other spikes.
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No matter how low the numbers get, we'll still always have people come in and say stuff like:

"Yeah but I know a guy who knows a guy whose third cousin twice removed has a neighbor who may die from COVID. So, you know, can't let our guard down now…"
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Like the heart strings non vaxxed "I wish I was vaxxed " dying stories they run every day.

What about the vaxxed but now I am dying stories?
Or 3x cancer rate in our vaxxed military.

I am sick of it and flat disgusted.
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By and large, those being hospitalized and dying of COVID now are those who are unvaxxed. Sure, there are still vaxxed people dying. Typically very elderly and/or very sick. But the hospital data is clear. And that's your choice.

The challenge comes in with the "law of large numbers". Even if a small percentage of those catching it end up hospitalized, a whole s***ton of people catching it means lots of folks in the hospital.

For society at large, we are, and should be, in a laissez faire state. At least in Texas (stories from the coasts sound awful). Feel like going to a show? Go...you might have to wear a mask, but that isn't a hardship. Don't....don't. Easy enough.

The two caveats are our giant "institutions" of health care and school. I wish there were easy answers there. There aren't.
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Ol Jock 99 said:

By and large, those being hospitalized and dying of COVID now are those who are unvaxxed. Sure, there are still vaxxed people dying. Typically very elderly and/or very sick. But the hospital data is clear. And that's your choice.

The challenge comes in with the "law of large numbers". Even if a small percentage of those catching it end up hospitalized, a whole s***ton of people catching it means lots of folks in the hospital.

For society at large, we are, and should be, in a laissez faire state. At least in Texas (stories from the coasts sound awful). Feel like going to a show? Go...you might have to wear a mask, but that isn't a hardship. Don't....don't. Easy enough.

The two caveats are our giant "institutions" of health care and school. I wish there were easy answers there. There aren't.


Those that are dying have multiple comorbidities; obese, diabetes, etc. Being healthy has been the most important factor to this virus and frankly, well a lot of things that want to kill you every day.
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Goalposts: moved

Wonder when they'll have to be moved again, like in Israel.
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Ol Jock 99 said:

By and large, those being hospitalized and dying of COVID now are those who are unvaxxed. Sure, there are still vaxxed people dying. Typically very elderly and/or very sick. But the hospital data is clear. And that's your choice.

The challenge comes in with the "law of large numbers". Even if a small percentage of those catching it end up hospitalized, a whole s***ton of people catching it means lots of folks in the hospital.

For society at large, we are, and should be, in a laissez faire state. At least in Texas (stories from the coasts sound awful). Feel like going to a show? Go...you might have to wear a mask, but that isn't a hardship. Don't....don't. Easy enough.

The two caveats are our giant "institutions" of health care and school. I wish there were easy answers there. There aren't.


No easy answers? I'd say schools should be operating 100% precovid. Not getting into if masks work or not, but kids don't wear them properly, plus they eat lunch and see each other maskless outside of school.

Same with Healthcare, testing 3 days prior to a procedure is idiotic. Masking anywhere doesn't make sense especially with Omicron, if you're high risk it's on you at this point, the rest of us should be back to normal.
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Coates said:

Ol Jock 99 said:

By and large, those being hospitalized and dying of COVID now are those who are unvaxxed. Sure, there are still vaxxed people dying. Typically very elderly and/or very sick. But the hospital data is clear. And that's your choice.

The challenge comes in with the "law of large numbers". Even if a small percentage of those catching it end up hospitalized, a whole s***ton of people catching it means lots of folks in the hospital.

For society at large, we are, and should be, in a laissez faire state. At least in Texas (stories from the coasts sound awful). Feel like going to a show? Go...you might have to wear a mask, but that isn't a hardship. Don't....don't. Easy enough.

The two caveats are our giant "institutions" of health care and school. I wish there were easy answers there. There aren't.


No easy answers? I'd say schools should be operating 100% precovid. Not getting if masks work or not, but kids don't wear them properly, plus they eat lunch and see each other maskless outside of school.

Same with Healthcare, testing 3 days prior to a procedure is idiotic. Masking anywhere doesn't make sense especially with Omicron, if you're high risk it's on you at this point, the rest of us should be back to normal.


My 7 year old… mask on during the day at school. After school care, share water bottle with handful of kids.
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Lakewood. Teachers rarely enforce, she takes off at her desk.
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Ol Jock 99 said:

By and large, those being hospitalized and dying of COVID now are those who are unvaxxed. Sure, there are still vaxxed people dying. Typically very elderly and/or very sick. But the hospital data is clear. And that's your choice.

The challenge comes in with the "law of large numbers". Even if a small percentage of those catching it end up hospitalized, a whole s***ton of people catching it means lots of folks in the hospital.

For society at large, we are, and should be, in a laissez faire state. At least in Texas (stories from the coasts sound awful). Feel like going to a show? Go...you might have to wear a mask, but that isn't a hardship. Don't....don't. Easy enough.

The two caveats are our giant "institutions" of health care and school. I wish there were easy answers there. There aren't.



There are easy answers actually. Stop the bull**** and let people make their own choices. Young or healthy people are not dying of Covid. If you're some of the people in that class that has a greater than .5% chance of dying, working at Starbucks isn't gonna work for you, because the masks aren't doing ****, and you're gonna get Covid.
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SoupNazi2001 said:

Where is your kid that requires a mask at school in DFW? No allowed exemptions?


RISD for 3 more days
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Lakewood. Teachers rarely enforce, she takes off at her desk.


I moved to the burbs this past summer to get away from Lakewood and DISD. If the people running that district and schools lack the very limited critical thinking skills needed to understand the minimal efficacy of masks, how could I trust them with educating my child? Best decision I've made in awhile.
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BoomGoesThe said:

riverrataggie said:

Lakewood. Teachers rarely enforce, she takes off at her desk.


I moved to the burbs this past summer to get away from Lakewood and DISD. If the people running that district and schools lack the very limited critical thinking skills needed to understand the minimal efficacy of masks, how could I trust them with educating my child? Best decision I've made in awhile.


I'm happy for you.
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https://urbanpolicyresearch.org/covid19/county-data-dashboard/

North Texas 7 day new case average continue to plummet. Estimated active cases finally going down too. Percent positive is still oddly high, but that will likely shift soon too.

Will this be the last big wave? Hope so.
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Guess i I was right.


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Ol Jock 99 said:

https://urbanpolicyresearch.org/covid19/county-data-dashboard/

North Texas 7 day new case average continue to plummet. Estimated active cases finally going down too. Percent positive is still oddly high, but that will likely shift soon too.

Will this be the last big wave? Hope so.



You know what, I bet it's wearing masks that's causing the decline. Glad everyone finally got on board
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You are easily amused, aren't you?
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Ol Jock 99 said:

You are easily amused, aren't you?


Well at first it wasn't amusing, it was frustrating, but now seeing the absolute refusal to let go of Covid Psychosis is ****ing hilarious.
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Ol Jock 99 said:

You are easily amused, aren't you?


I keep forgetting covid is a thing. Sorry your virus lost.
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My virus? Quotes appreciated on that one.
 
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