IMO Ol Jock 99 has been the most balanced poster on this thread. No need for a personal attack.yukmonkey said:No way. This crap has gone on way too long. The COVID board is wide open if you want a safe space.Ol Jock 99 said:
So move on and let folks who want to discuss it discuss it in peace.
Everyone else would like to get back to normal without our public officials and media trying to scare everyone back into a hole.
Also - didn't you get COVID and the vaccine? Would think you'd be as ready to move on as any.
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I do not have adequate words to describe just how ready I am for this to be over. And thanks 752bro4.
So are people who have actually had the virus, and now the vaccine, still triple masking?
Just curious?
Just curious?
Does Clay still have us on Red Alert?
I never doubled, but I was wearing an N95 to the grocery and CostCo. Happily going back to a surgical now.LSB_2002 said:
So are people who have actually had the virus, and now the vaccine, still triple masking?
Just curious?
DEFCON 8 baby.JDL 96 said:
Does Clay still have us on Red Alert?
Ol Jock 99 said:DEFCON 8 baby.JDL 96 said:
Does Clay still have us on Red Alert?
Yikes. This must be serious.
riverrataggie said:Ol Jock 99 said:DEFCON 8 baby.JDL 96 said:
Does Clay still have us on Red Alert?
Yikes. This must be serious.
Weeeelllll... akshually DEFCON 1 is the most serious. The smaller the number the more serious the issue..
Oops.
Correcting for science.AggieFrog said:Everyone? Hardly. Would love everything to get back to normal, but that's not possible for a few more months until everyone has had the opportunity to get the vaccine. Then we can have that conversation - but that's more of an end of May timeframe. Until then, the prudent thing is to continue social distancingQuote:
Everyone else would like to get back to normal without our public officials and media trying to scare everyone back into a hole.and masks.
Same. Also I realize it's anecdotal, but wife is a middle school nurse in a school of over 1000 kids in person since August. Thus far the only known in-school transmission has occurred among kids during lunch (unmasked in small groups) and from unmasked group parties outside of school. Very little to no spread amongst the students while masked in class. Wife also stayed masked and was in contact with multiple positive COVID students (she's been doing COVID tests in her nurse clinic since September) but never got it.YouBet said:Correcting for science.AggieFrog said:Everyone? Hardly. Would love everything to get back to normal, but that's not possible for a few more months until everyone has had the opportunity to get the vaccine. Then we can have that conversation - but that's more of an end of May timeframe. Until then, the prudent thing is to continue social distancingQuote:
Everyone else would like to get back to normal without our public officials and media trying to scare everyone back into a hole.and masks.
https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-020-02801-8
Why'd staff delete all the fun with our covid patriot visitor from F16?
Also, I will vouch for OJ being a good guy and 725bro4 being one of the best usernames on the site.
Also, I will vouch for OJ being a good guy and 725bro4 being one of the best usernames on the site.
Or maybe this thing isn't quite as contagious or virulent as we've been led to believe.AggieFrog said:Same. Also I realize it's anecdotal, but wife is a middle school nurse in a school of over 1000 kids in person since August. Thus far the only known in-school transmission has occurred among kids during lunch (unmasked in small groups) and from unmasked group parties outside of school. Very little to no spread amongst the students while masked in class. Wife also stayed masked and was in contact with multiple positive COVID students (she's been doing COVID tests in her nurse clinic since September) but never got it.YouBet said:Correcting for science.AggieFrog said:Everyone? Hardly. Would love everything to get back to normal, but that's not possible for a few more months until everyone has had the opportunity to get the vaccine. Then we can have that conversation - but that's more of an end of May timeframe. Until then, the prudent thing is to continue social distancingQuote:
Everyone else would like to get back to normal without our public officials and media trying to scare everyone back into a hole.and masks.
https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-020-02801-8
We eradicated the flu by social distancing and mask and over 500,000 people have died related to Covid.Goose said:Or maybe this thing isn't quite as contagious or virulent as we've been led to believe.AggieFrog said:Same. Also I realize it's anecdotal, but wife is a middle school nurse in a school of over 1000 kids in person since August. Thus far the only known in-school transmission has occurred among kids during lunch (unmasked in small groups) and from unmasked group parties outside of school. Very little to no spread amongst the students while masked in class. Wife also stayed masked and was in contact with multiple positive COVID students (she's been doing COVID tests in her nurse clinic since September) but never got it.YouBet said:Correcting for science.AggieFrog said:Everyone? Hardly. Would love everything to get back to normal, but that's not possible for a few more months until everyone has had the opportunity to get the vaccine. Then we can have that conversation - but that's more of an end of May timeframe. Until then, the prudent thing is to continue social distancingQuote:
Everyone else would like to get back to normal without our public officials and media trying to scare everyone back into a hole.and masks.
https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-020-02801-8
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...over 500,000 people have died related to Covid.
See, I just don't put much stock in "related". Dying "from Covid" is a whole lot different than dying "with Covid". As soon as the medical industry had a financial incentive to claim Covid as the cause of death, probable cause of death, or related cause of death, etc., then I pretty much quit listening to any of the numbers being reported. It's completely unverifiable. I don't doubt that half a million people have died, just that Covid was the cause for all of em.
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2021/01/14/us/covid-19-death-toll.html
550,000 more deaths of any cause than in a normal year.
550,000 more deaths of any cause than in a normal year.
Why are people so invested in this talking point? At a minimum it comes off as callous and arrogant. As if the pain and suffering so many felt was pointless because perhaps 50k people? 100k? died of multiple causes. As if their pain and suffering is now less for the pandemic, and we should I suppose vilify them for making us take precautions for one longer day.Goose said:Quote:
...over 500,000 people have died related to Covid.
See, I just don't put much stock in "related". Dying "from Covid" is a whole lot different than dying "with Covid". As soon as the medical industry had a financial incentive to claim Covid as the cause of death, probable cause of death, or related cause of death, etc., then I pretty much quit listening to any of the numbers being reported. It's completely unverifiable. I don't doubt that half a million people have died, just that Covid was the cause for all of em.
What would you tell a family then, that had a member die of a heart attack while treated for Covid? That they should do what call the media, the health department? I would like to know. What would you have them say?
This whole "financial incentive" thing was some fictional fake news nonsense on facebook. I would challenge you to provide any evidence that coding a death for CV would net you one penny more from anyone over a heart attack with the same treatment plan.
Have grace and mercy in the face of a challenge, don't assume the worst of people and their motives. It's a better way to live.
It's no secret that Medicare/Medicade pays out a 20% add-on for cases with a positive Covid test.
Sticking your head in the sand to avoid seeing ugliness in the world doesn't make that ugliness go away.
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Have grace and mercy in the face of a challenge, don't assume the worst of people and their motives. It's a better way to live.
Sticking your head in the sand to avoid seeing ugliness in the world doesn't make that ugliness go away.
Fact: Hospitals have lost significant revenue due to voluntary procedure cancellation
Fact: Hospitals have lost significant revenue from people delaying regular and emergency visits
Why is it so hard to believe that hospital administrators would look to fill the gap in revenue through readily available options....Covid diagnosis for unrelated causes of death being a primary focus.
It's either that or the stories about gunshot victims and vehicle accident victims having Covid at death are from the most incompetent hospitals on planet Earth.
It is either or, there is no middle ground. But it's cool, y'all need to keep up the hysteria while more liberal/socialist policies get enacted out of fear. We get it.
Fact: Hospitals have lost significant revenue from people delaying regular and emergency visits
Why is it so hard to believe that hospital administrators would look to fill the gap in revenue through readily available options....Covid diagnosis for unrelated causes of death being a primary focus.
It's either that or the stories about gunshot victims and vehicle accident victims having Covid at death are from the most incompetent hospitals on planet Earth.
It is either or, there is no middle ground. But it's cool, y'all need to keep up the hysteria while more liberal/socialist policies get enacted out of fear. We get it.
Bonfire1996 said:
Fact: Hospitals have lost significant revenue due to voluntary procedure cancellation
Fact: Hospitals have lost significant revenue from people delaying regular and emergency visits
Why is it so hard to believe that hospital administrators would look to fill the gap in revenue through readily available options....Covid diagnosis for unrelated causes of death being a primary focus.
It's either that or the stories about gunshot victims and vehicle accident victims having Covid at death are from the most incompetent hospitals on planet Earth.
It is either or, there is no middle ground. But it's cool, y'all need to keep up the hysteria while more liberal/socialist policies get enacted out of fear. We get it.
Goose said:
It's no secret that Medicare/Medicade pays out a 20% add-on for cases with a positive Covid test.Quote:
Have grace and mercy in the face of a challenge, don't assume the worst of people and their motives. It's a better way to live.
Sticking your head in the sand to avoid seeing ugliness in the world doesn't make that ugliness go away.
Can you provide a source for this.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.usatoday.com/amp/3000638001
Here was a fact check article stating that hospitals get paid more but they don't have proof the numbers have been bloated.
Here was a fact check article stating that hospitals get paid more but they don't have proof the numbers have been bloated.
Section 3710 of the CARES Act.
Now that we've established hospitals/doctors do, in fact, get paid more for COVID patients on Medicare it will be enlightening to learn in a few years how much Medicare fraud happened becasue of it.
The government enabled an avenue to cheat while most hospitals were losing their ass financially. Considering we already have millions in fraud every year there will be here as well. We just may not know about it until the dust settles.
The government enabled an avenue to cheat while most hospitals were losing their ass financially. Considering we already have millions in fraud every year there will be here as well. We just may not know about it until the dust settles.
"Can you provide a source for this" = I am too lazy to Google but am mad that I might be wrong
I also look forward to the facts around the "eradication" of the flu assuming we ever actually get them. I'm sure there were was zero noise or dirtiness in that data at all.
If greatly curtailing and disrupting society for four to six months out of the year is deemed the fix to "eradicate" it every year then that is not an ROI that makes sense, obviously.
If greatly curtailing and disrupting society for four to six months out of the year is deemed the fix to "eradicate" it every year then that is not an ROI that makes sense, obviously.
Dont hospital groups get compensated for positive Covid tests and get bubkiss on positive flu tests? No chance for overlap there.YouBet said:
I also look forward to the facts around the "eradication" of the flu assuming we ever actually get them. I'm sure there were was zero noise or dirtiness in that data at all.
If greatly curtailing and disrupting society for four to six months out of the year is deemed the fix to "eradicate" it every year then that is not an ROI that makes sense, obviously.
Bonfire1996 said:Dont hospital groups get compensated for positive Covid tests and get bubkiss on positive flu tests? No chance for overlap there.YouBet said:
I also look forward to the facts around the "eradication" of the flu assuming we ever actually get them. I'm sure there were was zero noise or dirtiness in that data at all.
If greatly curtailing and disrupting society for four to six months out of the year is deemed the fix to "eradicate" it every year then that is not an ROI that makes sense, obviously.
I'm not sure about that. Testing in general was covered in that patients didn't have to cost share but saw nothing on positive cases.
Under 500 new cases a day is becoming a trend. Definitely moving in the right direction.
Much less if you exclude the "probable" cases
Hospitalizations are so low too, 268 in Dallas County and 183 in Collin Co. I drive by the old Smith & Wollensky restaurant where there used to be hundreds of cars lined up all day long, since the storm I've seen maybe 10 at the most.
TxAgLaw03RW said:
Much less if you exclude the "probable" cases
Probable = rapid tests. Appropriate to include imho.
The end is in sight. Keep on getting shots in arms and were all gonna be making out in the streets come Memorial Day.
Quinn said:
The end is in sight. Keep on getting shots in arms and were all gonna be making out in the streets come Memorial Day.
President Biden just said maybe 4th of July.
Christ can we end this phrase already?Quinn said:
The end is in sight. Keep on getting shots in arms and were all gonna be making out in the streets come Memorial Day.
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