Mr.Bond said:
Only downside is as stated, how would it affect our future negotiations with our core group. Plus I'm assuming Kyle Tucker would be the focal piece in the deal?
Sounds like they would give him to us if we paid full contract price
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Sounds like they would give him to us if we paid full contract price
Where are you seeing them giving him away for anyone swallowing the entire contract
Im looking for Ray Finkle.... and a clean pair of shorts. Im just a very big Finkle fan. This is my Graceland, sir.
MAGA
MAGA
Don't wanna be screwed on back end of thst contract. Let's keep doing what got us here.
I know people bring up Pujols as a comparison, but look at guys like Big Papi and Adrian Beltre who continue(d) to hit and provide value. Sure, you might be overpaying for what you're getting when he's 37, but as salaries continue to rise, it might not be as much as it looks like it would be now.
Just because Pujols had a negative WAR at 37 doesn't mean Stanton will. Stanton is a very different athlete than Pujols. If we don't have to lose top prospects and are essentially just taking on salary, I'd have to strongly consider the trade if I'm Luhnow/Crane.
Just because Pujols had a negative WAR at 37 doesn't mean Stanton will. Stanton is a very different athlete than Pujols. If we don't have to lose top prospects and are essentially just taking on salary, I'd have to strongly consider the trade if I'm Luhnow/Crane.
I'd take Stanton in a heartbeat. Id have no problem including Kyle Tucker in the deal. He might hit 70 bombs getting to play at Minute Maid 81 games a season and have 150+ rbi.
But what about our core? We know how they perform under pressure. As long as we have enough money to keep our horses....
Not sure if Stanton can stay healthy.
Not sure if Stanton can stay healthy.
screw-tu said:
But what about our core? We know how they perform under pressure. As long as we have enough money to keep our horses....
Not sure if Stanton can stay healthy.
Never will be any pressure when we are scoring 10 runs a game.
Absolutely not.
The packages that the Giants and Cardinals were offering were not very good. This is a near straight up salary dump.
The packages that the Giants and Cardinals were offering were not very good. This is a near straight up salary dump.
Crazy...
I went to the Baseball Ref salaries and contracts sites for the Marlins and the Astros to make a Google Sheet to see what a Stanton contract would look mingled into the Astros future.
The Marlins table goes out to 2028.
The Astros table goes out to 2018.
The tables only go out to the latest year there is guaranteed $. It's a stark difference. This really makes me happy to see that the front office has been planning to take on $ in the near future (ie Altuve and Correa)
I went to the Baseball Ref salaries and contracts sites for the Marlins and the Astros to make a Google Sheet to see what a Stanton contract would look mingled into the Astros future.
The Marlins table goes out to 2028.
The Astros table goes out to 2018.
The tables only go out to the latest year there is guaranteed $. It's a stark difference. This really makes me happy to see that the front office has been planning to take on $ in the near future (ie Altuve and Correa)
Wizard said:
Let's say **** it and go get Giancarlo Stanton.
Hopefully username checks out
Not getting my hopes up but just imagine:
Springer, Bregman, Altuve, Correa, Stanton, Yuli, Marwin, McCann, Gattis, etc.
Murderer's Row
Springer, Bregman, Altuve, Correa, Stanton, Yuli, Marwin, McCann, Gattis, etc.
Murderer's Row
Stanton hitting between Altuve and Correa would really be something to see.CFTXAG10 said:
Not getting my hopes up but just imagine:
Springer, Bregman, Altuve, Correa, Stanton, Marwin, McCann, Gattis, etc.
Murderer's Row
WES2006AG said:Stanton hitting between Altuve and Correa would really be something to see.CFTXAG10 said:
Not getting my hopes up but just imagine:
Springer, Bregman, Altuve, Correa, Stanton, Marwin, McCann, Gattis, etc.
Murderer's Row
I obviously trust Luhnow here and he seems to have backed off his interest.
WES2006AG said:Stanton hitting between Altuve and Correa would really be something to see.CFTXAG10 said:
Not getting my hopes up but just imagine:
Springer, Bregman, Altuve, Correa, Stanton, Marwin, McCann, Gattis, etc.
Murderer's Row
Just being hypothetical because hypotheticals are fun (I still think there's no way this happens, and I'd be pretty upset if it did), but I think Altuve-Stanton-Correa or Altuve-Correa-Stanton have to be 2-3-4, not 3-4-5. You have to get those bats to the plate as often as you can.
Depends on what Bregman turns out to be.DVC2010 said:WES2006AG said:Stanton hitting between Altuve and Correa would really be something to see.CFTXAG10 said:
Not getting my hopes up but just imagine:
Springer, Bregman, Altuve, Correa, Stanton, Marwin, McCann, Gattis, etc.
Murderer's Row
Just being hypothetical because hypotheticals are fun (I still think there's no way this happens, and I'd be pretty upset if it did), but I think Altuve-Stanton-Correa or Altuve-Correa-Stanton have to be 2-3-4, not 3-4-5. You have to get those bats to the plate as often as you can.
I am envisioning a lineup like this:DVC2010 said:WES2006AG said:Stanton hitting between Altuve and Correa would really be something to see.CFTXAG10 said:
Not getting my hopes up but just imagine:
Springer, Bregman, Altuve, Correa, Stanton, Marwin, McCann, Gattis, etc.
Murderer's Row
Just being hypothetical because hypotheticals are fun (I still think there's no way this happens, and I'd be pretty upset if it did), but I think Altuve-Stanton-Correa or Altuve-Correa-Stanton have to be 2-3-4, not 3-4-5. You have to get those bats to the plate as often as you can.
Springer CF
Altuve 2B
Stanton DH
Correa SS
Bregman 3B
Gonzalez LF
Gurriel 1B
McCann c
Reddick RF
I know it wont happen, but we can dream.
I hope they are aggressive this off season. Smart but aggressive. Especially adding another run producing bat...
Yes, I'm a nerd and have too much time on my hands right now... here you go:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1_AzIlb1FPf8Biwq7qSob8SJcxLVsZblRz9KNuBl-oCo/edit?usp=sharing
This is best viewed with the zoom on 75%.
Oh and in this little simulation, I have Altuve signing a 9 year $279 million contract and Correa signing for 10 years @ $300 million.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1_AzIlb1FPf8Biwq7qSob8SJcxLVsZblRz9KNuBl-oCo/edit?usp=sharing
This is best viewed with the zoom on 75%.
Oh and in this little simulation, I have Altuve signing a 9 year $279 million contract and Correa signing for 10 years @ $300 million.
altuve has another $6million option for 2019
I think the Astros have said they would prefer to get another regular outfielder for next year so Marwin can go back to being a utility infielder and giving blows to our infield.
Careful there. We aren't the Rangers.HotardAg07 said:
I think the Astros have said they would prefer to get another regular outfielder for next year so Marwin can go back to being a utility infielder and giving blows to our infield.
If the two options are :
1) keep the team as is, keep most of our good players over time, but lose one or two to free agency as the years go by
2) sign Stanton for a two year window, but then lose Correa, Altuve, etc because of financial issues as they become free agents
Give me option 1. I want to see Correa and Altuve go down as career Astros. This generation's Biggio and Bagwell.
(Obviously it's more complicated than just those two options)
1) keep the team as is, keep most of our good players over time, but lose one or two to free agency as the years go by
2) sign Stanton for a two year window, but then lose Correa, Altuve, etc because of financial issues as they become free agents
Give me option 1. I want to see Correa and Altuve go down as career Astros. This generation's Biggio and Bagwell.
(Obviously it's more complicated than just those two options)
CoachRTM said:
If the two options are :
1) keep the team as is, keep most of our good players over time, but lose one or two to free agency as the years go by
2) sign Stanton for a two year window, but then lose Correa, Altuve, etc because of financial issues as they become free agents
Give me option 1. I want to see Correa and Altuve go down as career Astros. This generation's Biggio and Bagwell.
(Obviously it's more complicated than just those two options)
I want those two along with Springer and Bregman staying riiiiight here.
Wow
Damn. Didn't want him in our division.
CFTXAG10 said:
Not getting my hopes up but just imagine:
Springer, Bregman, Altuve, Correa, Stanton, Marwin, McCann, Gattis, etc.
Murderer's Row
How are you gonna type etc. instead of Yuli. Disrespect.
Wow. That's bad on my part. How could anyone forget La Pina.
Man listening to the radio in Dallas today's enjoyable on the drive home. Basically saying that the Astros sucking for so many years wasn't worth the World Series and that they wouldn't do it that way.
I'd gladly take that over being one strike away and coming up emptywangus12 said:
Man listening to the radio in Dallas today's enjoyable on the drive home. Basically saying that the Astros sucking for so many years wasn't worth the World Series and that they wouldn't do it that way.
Don't really understand move to angels. Oh well, hope he enjoys looking up at Astros for a good long time.
From what I can gather it was not exactly a plan. Uncle Drayton did not want use his money for players when in process of selling the team/ Luhnow saw little benefit for the long run development of the the organization by signing mid level free agents which would have only made the team marginally better. The whole we'll tank for a few years to gather a bunch of future stars is a bunch of BS. While nothing is guaranteed, I wonder how many years of extended success would make it worth those four 90+ loss seasons (three 100+) and five seasons of mediocrity following the '05 pennant?wangus12 said:
Man listening to the radio in Dallas today's enjoyable on the drive home. Basically saying that the Astros sucking for so many years wasn't worth the World Series and that they wouldn't do it that way.
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