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JSKolache said:

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90% of the people that tell you a snake story are lying?
99% of fishing stories are lies, u know that right?
I know better than to argue with Zealots...

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Young copperhead close up from recently

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Thread is a little slow right now as expected. Saw this snake in a collection of Australian animals. Any idea what it is?


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Banded Trowser?

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I don't think it is a snake.

Edit: probably too light and big to be one of those huge Australia n earthworms.
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1990AG said:

Banded Trowser?
I get one lousy star for this?? Come on people!

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1990AG said:

1990AG said:

Banded Trowser?
I get one lousy star for this?? Come on people!
It's a rookie mistake. We forgive you.
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So that copperhead photo would give my wife nightmares for at least ...... the rest of her life.
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I like this thread
I hate this thread.

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Alright guys. Got a really good one here. My friend sent me this pic for ID from her house in West Austin area this AM. Snake was not harmed. Any guesses? Not you 12f... give the others a shot.



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That's a cool one! I'll keep my mouth shut...
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It is and it's a pretty one too... I should have included you on the banned guessers.
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I don't know what it is....
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It really is! The coloration, particularly near the head, is amazing.
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Liar
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Garter snake, Genus Thamnophus found in North America.
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Incorrect... That's what my friend thought it was too.
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Ribbon?

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Good guess but also no.
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Not a garter, not a ribbon ... then definitely a copperhead.
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Late last year I posted a pic on the 2019 thread. The experts identified him as a gopher snake which apparently is a sub-species of bull snake. I wanted to follow up at the time but I was busy and so was the board, but with things being kind of slow now, here goes.

I live in Wyoming, prairie rattler country. Every day I walk my dog in the area I found that gopher snake and those rattlers stay on my mind. Is it true that bull snakes will run rattlers away? Would gopher snakes? An internet search was inconclusive.

A more general question - are non-venomous snakes vulnerable to venom of other snakes? A few years ago someone posted a video of a fight between a cobra and python somewhere in the East I don't know it ended but it was kind of fascinating to watch.
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While bullsnakes/gopher snakes can and occasionally do eat rattlesnakes, they are not a main prey source for them. Bullsnakes will not appreciably affect rattlesnake populations in a given area. However, if a rattlesnake has an opportunity to avoid a bullsnake, it will.

As far as snakes being immune to all venom, it is a snake by snake and venom by venom proposition. Some snakes are immune to other snakes venom (kingsnakes and Rattlers) however some snakes are susceptible to the venom of other snakes.

Most snakes are at least partially immune to their own venom, but it does affect them if they are bitten by another snake of the same species or even themselves, but it is unlikely to kill them. If a venomous snake is bitten by another species of venomous snake it may or may not be affected. It depends mostly on how similar the venoms between the two species are.

That said, some species of snake are immune to venoms very different from their own and others are immune to venoms while being nonvenomous themselves.
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I got bit by a rattlesnake 2 years ago on my ranch in Rio Medina. Went to University Hospital in San Antonio. Best place to go if u are within 3 hours of there. I learned that 6 out of 10 bits are dry and the worst bites are by the little ones.They said that out of about 5000 bites, only 5 people had died. Maybe they were just trying to make me more comfortable. It did work. The God Lord watches over stupid because i only got hit by 1 fang (I was wearing flip flops picking corn)(stupid). I really feel the snake just trying to get away.
I killed many rattlesnakes and it always seemed like they were trying really hard to get away from me. Only time they really got mad was on occasion when you miss with a gun or u throw a rock at them.
At the hospital, they took blood samples every hour or so to check some sort thickening that the venom causes. This was done for about 14 hours.They said if it reached a certain point I would have to start anti venom.
I was 1 more blood test away of getting anti venom and the indicator started going down. This was good as not to have to take anti venom.
I got hit in the heel. Swelled up past my knee and bruised up to me butt.
Was on crutches for 3 weeks.It got infected and had to then go to wound doctor for 2weeks to get dead rotten skin cut off and the hole packed with some sort of silver nitrate concoction.
Besides all of this all went well.
I thought I was somewhat manly to pain. SMH this hurt as if u would have put your foot in a fire for first 4 or 5 hours. Thank goodness for morphine.
If any of y'all are around anybody that gets bit by a poisonous snake or you get bit stay as calm as possible(hard to do). don't elevate, ice or try and clean bite. Go to emergency room. they know there stuff.
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I would send picts but don't know how to
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Most of what you said is accurate, but the little snakes being more dangerous is a little off. While young snakes have less control over the amount of venom they inject and are much less likely to give a dry bite, they also have far less venom to inject than an adult snakes.

If an adult snakes gives you a full dose of venom, it is much, much more dangerous and potentially deadly.
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Also they are looking for signs of DIC (disseminated intravascular coagulation) with the blood tests. Several markers are drawn and the progress of erythema/edema (redness and swelling) from the bite site is monitored as well as the patient's vital signs. Based on all this and the clinical picture the decision to hold or give antivenin is made.

It is not a decision we take lightly as physicians. The antivenin is not only expensive, but also has a fairly high rate of allergic reaction associated with it and can make patients worse instead of better.
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Badace52 said:

Alright guys. Got a really good one here. My friend sent me this pic for ID from her house in West Austin area this AM. Snake was not harmed. Any guesses? Not you 12f... give the others a shot.






Ok, not a ribbon and not a Garter. What is the answer for us novices?
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I'll give the answer tomorrow if no one guesses between now and then.
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I am trying to remember if we've had one posted before? I'm sure we have but don't remember when.
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12f posted one in a group of snakes he submitted for everyone to ID once. It might have even been the first page post a couple years ago.
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Kingsnake?
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