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Some guy plans to travel Africa in modded Jeep

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FHKChE07 said:

And apparently he does it all the time. I can't figure out why though...
duh

keep power to all four wheels to prevent getting stuck while stopped
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The couple driving through DRC was the best part of this thread. Dan should have taken the time to read it. Of course they were in a proper vehicle for the trip. Dan is in a Jeep that stays on paved roads. Perhaps the Jeep is not expected to hold up to rolling onto its side as well as their Toyota.
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Ark03 said:

AggieChemist said:

I'm trying to wrap my head around what kind of moron it takes to PURPOSELY leave a vehicle in gear, relying solely on the handbrake.

I have been driving for 37 years and have never done this, nor has it ever occurred to me to do this.
I just assumed he was driving a standard transmission. In that case, leaving it in gear is better than leaving it in neutral (although if my ebrake wasn't working, I'd have something to chock the wheels on the seat next to me).

But yes, people who do this in an automatic are morons.

Edit: Yup, he's driving a 6-speed manual transmission. Leaving it in first was the right thing to do, but relying on that alone was stupid.

As fast as he claimed it rolled away, I think it must have slipped out of gear.

Also, he sure seems to freak out a lot about his jeep on its side. When you read the account of the couple that did a real overland trip, the number of times they rolled over on really rough roads is almost comical, and it barely phases them: https://www.expeditionportal.com/forum/threads/democratic-republic-of-congo-lubumbashi-to-kinshasa.50799/

Why 1st instead of taking it out of gear?
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When driving a standard I always parked mine in reverse.
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Naveronski said:

Ark03 said:

AggieChemist said:

I'm trying to wrap my head around what kind of moron it takes to PURPOSELY leave a vehicle in gear, relying solely on the handbrake.

I have been driving for 37 years and have never done this, nor has it ever occurred to me to do this.
I just assumed he was driving a standard transmission. In that case, leaving it in gear is better than leaving it in neutral (although if my ebrake wasn't working, I'd have something to chock the wheels on the seat next to me).

But yes, people who do this in an automatic are morons.

Edit: Yup, he's driving a 6-speed manual transmission. Leaving it in first was the right thing to do, but relying on that alone was stupid.

As fast as he claimed it rolled away, I think it must have slipped out of gear.

Also, he sure seems to freak out a lot about his jeep on its side. When you read the account of the couple that did a real overland trip, the number of times they rolled over on really rough roads is almost comical, and it barely phases them: https://www.expeditionportal.com/forum/threads/democratic-republic-of-congo-lubumbashi-to-kinshasa.50799/

Why 1st instead of taking it out of gear?
Out of gear is neutral. Then you have no resistance if the vehicle wants to roll. Some resistance (ie 1st gear) means that it at least has to overcome the inertia of the gear that's hardest to turn before rolling.
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Texmid said:

When driving a standard I always parked mine in reverse.
That's fine if you're parked on an incline where the vehicle may roll backwards. You don't ever want the engine to turn backwards - if that happens your valves can hit the pistons if the timing is wrong, screwing up your engine.

If you're parked an a hill where you may roll forwards, use 1st. If you're parked on a relatively flat incline use 1st: Reverse is generally geared between 1st and 2nd, so you actually get more resistance out of 1st than you do out of R.
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Ark03 said:

AggieChemist said:

I'm trying to wrap my head around what kind of moron it takes to PURPOSELY leave a vehicle in gear, relying solely on the handbrake.

I have been driving for 37 years and have never done this, nor has it ever occurred to me to do this.
I just assumed he was driving a standard transmission. In that case, leaving it in gear is better than leaving it in neutral (although if my ebrake wasn't working, I'd have something to chock the wheels on the seat next to me).

But yes, people who do this in an automatic are morons.

Edit: Yup, he's driving a 6-speed manual transmission. Leaving it in first was the right thing to do, but relying on that alone was stupid.

As fast as he claimed it rolled away, I think it must have slipped out of gear.

Also, he sure seems to freak out a lot about his jeep on its side. When you read the account of the couple that did a real overland trip, the number of times they rolled over on really rough roads is almost comical, and it barely phases them: https://www.expeditionportal.com/forum/threads/democratic-republic-of-congo-lubumbashi-to-kinshasa.50799/

That's because their mamas didn't raise no *****
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Upon first read I thought the engine was running. He must have a serious loss of compression issue if he's rolling over a stopped engine.
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Or he's just an idiot and doesn't want to admit it wasn't even in gear.
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ellebee said:




This picture actually confirms that this d**cher really doesn't know left from right. In order to see the rest of the photos on his Instagram, you start by swiping LEFT when on the first photo, and then continue swiping left to see the rest. If you want to go back towards the original photo, then you swipe RIGHT.
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You don't ever want the engine to turn backwards - if that happens your valves can hit the pistons if the timing is wrong, screwing up your engine.
Disagree. If they don't hit rolling forward, they won't hit in reverse.

The only possible scenario I could see this happening was if you had extremely close clearances between the piston and valve train and you had a really worn timing chain.

Some engines are "interference" engines, some are not. On an interference engine, if you throw a timing chain or belt, and the valve train stops moving, the pistons and valves can hit. Honda and Acura V-6s for example. Some engines are not, the valve and the piston never occupy the same spot. A flathead engine would be the extreme example of this.
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CanyonAg77 said:

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You don't ever want the engine to turn backwards - if that happens your valves can hit the pistons if the timing is wrong, screwing up your engine.
Disagree. If they don't hit rolling forward, they won't hit in reverse.

The only possible scenario I could see this happening was if you had extremely close clearances between the piston and valve train and you had a really worn timing chain.

Some engines are "interference" engines, some are not. On an interference engine, if you throw a timing chain or belt, and the valve train stops moving, the pistons and valves can hit. Honda and Acura V-6s for example. Some engines are not, the valve and the piston never occupy the same spot. A flathead engine would be the extreme example of this.
I won't argue with you regarding the likelihood of screwing up the timing. I realize that you'd have to get it spinning pretty fast, which would be hard from a dead stop. That said, if the vehicle is in reverse and it is rolling forward down a hill, you might as well have a broken timing chain - it can't do its job if the car is in reverse but the car is pushed forward. Still unlikely to do damage coming from a dead stop. That's much more likely when you throw the timing chain at highway speeds.

However, given that reverse is generally geared higher than first gear, why wouldn't you just leave it in first?
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Valves hitting pistons has nothing to do with engine rotation direction or speed, except at extremely high RPM where you get valve "float" and the springs can't return the valves quickly enough.

I agree that you should put the manual trans in the lowest gear, forward or reverse, whichever it is.

Back to our intrepid Jeep guy, it must have been a hell of a slope. And he was stupid to not chock the wheels if the parking brake was bad.
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How about, if you're going to drive a manual transmission vehicle and park it on anything but perfectly level ground you should really take the time to adjust your parking brake to actually work and use some wheel chocks if you're parking on a slope big enough to turn the engine over in 1st.
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Mantis Toboggan MD said:

ellebee said:




This picture actually confirms that this d**cher really doesn't know left from right. In order to see the rest of the photos on his Instagram, you start by swiping LEFT when on the first photo, and then continue swiping left to see the rest. If you want to go back towards the original photo, then you swipe RIGHT.

HAAAA!!
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Is he dead yet?
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Can not believe I read through all 88 pages of this nonsense. Can someone on the first page of the thread just edit their post with a quick summary so that no one else wastes their time reading this? Something along the lines of:
This guy is a total fraud; not traveling alone, definitely ain't doing it in 2 years, hypocritical, ******nozzle, etc.
Read the Congo couples trip for a real African adventure (link)
Is he dead yet? NO, he's not dead yet cause he's a lil ***** who skimped out on anything and everything he originally said his trip was about (and that made the entire thing worth following).
DO NOT READ!

Thanks.
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Read the story about the couple in the Congo. That one is a good read.
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Does he qualify as a celebrity so I can add him to my death watch list?
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You just gave a great summary. But you really should let others waist their time reading all 88 pages if they cannot figure out that Dan is a fraud early in the thread.
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He's not dead yet?
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http://theroadchoseme.com/disaster-aftermath

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A few days later I notice the front axle is now leaking a little bit of oil out the end of the axle tube on the drivers side so I wonder if hitting the bank so violently on that side has caused one of the axle seals to unseat a little. It's barely a weep at this point, though it's the first time this Jeep has ever leaked anything, so I'll keep a close eye on it.
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TexasAggie_02 said:

http://theroadchoseme.com/disaster-aftermath

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A few days later I notice the front axle is now leaking a little bit of oil out the end of the axle tube on the drivers side so I wonder if hitting the bank so violently on that side has caused one of the axle seals to unseat a little. It's barely a weep at this point, though it's the first time this Jeep has ever leaked anything, so I'll keep a close eye on it.

I knew there was a reason he was sticking to the paved roads...
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Still in it to win it!!!!!!

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I stopped following the fraud a while back but for some reason, and not sure why, I started wondering..

Is he dead yet?
The trouble with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.
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Dammit, fifth time now I've said I'll never open that thread again!!!!!
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Did his girlfriend give birth to the baby of the Tribal King he sold her to?
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So he's not dead yet?

Bummer
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Update: he's made it to Egypt alive and apparently isn't going to try to drive into Libya; therefore, his Africa journey is over.

Whoever picked "not going to die" in the death pool looks like the winner.
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TresPuertas said:

I've got a bottle of 15 year old pappy that I'll send the guy if he pulls this off. No lie

I have a feeling I'll be drinking that bottle myself.
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spud1910 said:

I'll buck the trend and say he completes the journey in 2-20-20. Stranger things have happened. It won't be the route he painted on the Jeep, but close enough we will give him credit.
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wessimo said:

Update: he's made it to Egypt alive and apparently isn't going to try to drive into Libya; therefore, his Africa journey is over.

Whoever picked "not going to die" in the death pool looks like the winner.


I not sure about your conclusion. He did not die, but he gave up and did not finish.

Although he gave up later, what is the difference between him giving up in Egypt or Mauritania?

Once OB lost interest he lost all of his clicks and probably lost many of his sponsors. I am surprised that he was not forced to quit from lack of funds earlier. I also didn't think that he would find paved roads the entire trip. He could have done the same trip in a Civic.
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wessimo said:

Update: he's made it to Egypt alive and apparently isn't going to try to drive into Libya; therefore, his Africa journey is over.

Whoever picked "not going to die" in the death pool looks like the winner.



He couldn't get a visa into Libya
http://reddit.com/r/Jeep/comments/bj4vac/the_hood_of_my_jk_after_999_days_53500_miles_and/em9bwso
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AggieChemE09 said:

wessimo said:

Update: he's made it to Egypt alive and apparently isn't going to try to drive into Libya; therefore, his Africa journey is over.

Whoever picked "not going to die" in the death pool looks like the winner.



He couldn't get a visa into Libya
http://reddit.com/r/Jeep/comments/bj4vac/the_hood_of_my_jk_after_999_days_53500_miles_and/em9bwso

Looks like he's doing a post-trip AMA next week.

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