TxAgLaw03RW said:

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"Karen" can die when the mask mandates end. Most of my life has been pretty unchanged since May, but the mask hysteria has to end.

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yukmonkey said:

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I have seen people:
- wearing masks alone in a car
- wearing masks hiking on a trail
- wearing masks riding a bike
- wearing masks generally anywhere outside
- wearing masks walking to a table and then sitting there talking loudly for 2 hours without
- yelling (with mask) at someone from 3 feet away to put on a mask

None of these have any basis in science whatsoever. Zero.

Get rid of the stupid mandate. It's killing businesses and is pointless.

Wash your hands and don't go out if you feel bad. Done.

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yukmonkey said:

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I have seen people:
- wearing masks alone in a car
So? This doesn't impact you.
- wearing masks hiking on a trail
So? This doesn't impact you.
- wearing masks riding a bike
So? This doesn't impact you.
- wearing masks generally anywhere outside
So? This doesn't impact you.
- wearing masks walking to a table and then sitting there talking loudly for 2 hours without
The restaurant stuff is weird. And I honestly don't know how effective. But if it allows the restaurants we go to be open, I'll do it.
- yelling (with mask) at someone from 3 feet away to put on a mask
Ok, you finally have a point. That's BS.

None of these have any basis in science whatsoever. Zero.
See below

Get rid of the stupid mandate. It's killing businesses and is pointless.
1) No, what is killing business is capricious government closing orders and people who would rather see businesses fail than wear a mask.
2) If you don't think that mask help, even though it has been shown to help in study after study to help prevent the spread of airborne and particle spread diseases, I don't know what to tell you.

Wash your hands and don't go out if you feel bad. Done.
Washing your hands is a good idea. Not going out when "feeling bad", while preferable, isn't realistic. You going to call in every time you have a mild cold? Not to mention asymptomatic spread.

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DFWTLR said:

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The term 'Karen' has been worse than covid, can that die now?

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yukmonkey said:

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I have seen people:
- wearing masks alone in a car
- wearing masks hiking on a trail
- wearing masks riding a bike
- wearing masks generally anywhere outside
- wearing masks walking to a table and then sitting there talking loudly for 2 hours without
- yelling (with mask) at someone from 3 feet away to put on a mask

None of these have any basis in science whatsoever. Zero.

Get rid of the stupid mandate. It's killing businesses and is pointless.

Wash your hands and don't go out if you feel bad. Done.

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Dutch public health officials and the national government are unbending with respect to what they consider to be lack of scientific evidence on the efficacy of non-medical masks in limiting the spread of the novel coronavirus. On Wednesday, July 29th, at a press conference, officials maintained the line they've adopted since March: "There's no scientific evidence for the efficacy of non-medical masks."

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Proposition Joe said:

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I find it amusing how many people love to point out how crazy/stupid people with masks on driving in their car is.

It never dawns on them that those people are likely constantly driving from place to place that require a mask, and that -- get this -- wearing a mask doesn't really bother them enough to bother to take it off in between stops.

Some people are adults and wearing a mask really isn't that big a deal.

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Proposition Joe said:

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It never dawns on either of you that they aren't wearing their mask in their car to protect others -- they are wearing their mask in their car because it doesn't bother them enough to take it off between stops.

I mean, whatever your belief on the efficacy of masks, if you can't understand that:

A) Many people have been forced into a line of work that requires them to wear masks and make multiple stops throughout the day (Uber, DoorDash, etc...)

B) Many people aren't princesses -- wearing a piece of cloth over their face really doesn't just turn their whole world upside down.


Then maybe it's not the guy in the car you're looking at that is the stupid one?

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Proposition Joe said:

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It never dawns on either of you that they aren't wearing their mask in their car to protect others -- they are wearing their mask in their car because it doesn't bother them enough to take it off between stops.

I mean, whatever your belief on the efficacy of masks, if you can't understand that:

A) Many people have been forced into a line of work that requires them to wear masks and make multiple stops throughout the day (Uber, DoorDash, etc...)

B) Many people aren't princesses -- wearing a piece of cloth over their face really doesn't just turn their whole world upside down.


Then maybe it's not the guy in the car you're looking at that is the stupid one?

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TSUAggie said:

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Proposition Joe said:

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It never dawns on either of you that they aren't wearing their mask in their car to protect others -- they are wearing their mask in their car because it doesn't bother them enough to take it off between stops.

I mean, whatever your belief on the efficacy of masks, if you can't understand that:

A) Many people have been forced into a line of work that requires them to wear masks and make multiple stops throughout the day (Uber, DoorDash, etc...)

B) Many people aren't princesses -- wearing a piece of cloth over their face really doesn't just turn their whole world upside down.


Then maybe it's not the guy in the car you're looking at that is the stupid one?

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To me it's not about wearing the actual mask, it's about a completely incompetent and inflated government mandating it when there is no hard evidence that we're doing any good while many would also argue that this isn't even an actual damn pandemic anymore. What else will they enforce next time something like this happens, especially during election years? Many lives have been wrecked by the government shutting things down and constantly moving the goal posts.

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Proposition Joe said:

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TSUAggie said:

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Proposition Joe said:

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It never dawns on either of you that they aren't wearing their mask in their car to protect others -- they are wearing their mask in their car because it doesn't bother them enough to take it off between stops.

I mean, whatever your belief on the efficacy of masks, if you can't understand that:

A) Many people have been forced into a line of work that requires them to wear masks and make multiple stops throughout the day (Uber, DoorDash, etc...)

B) Many people aren't princesses -- wearing a piece of cloth over their face really doesn't just turn their whole world upside down.


Then maybe it's not the guy in the car you're looking at that is the stupid one?

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To me it's not about wearing the actual mask, it's about a completely incompetent and inflated government mandating it when there is no hard evidence that we're doing any good while many would also argue that this isn't even an actual damn pandemic anymore. What else will they enforce next time something like this happens, especially during election years? Many lives have been wrecked by the government shutting things down and constantly moving the goal posts.

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Again, I'm not debating the efficacy of masks -- you guys have done that for months now and don't seem to really be getting anywhere.

I'm saying if your world view is so myopic that you see a guy in a car wearing a mask and laugh thinking they must be so stupid wearing it for protection instead of thinking they have a service job that requires multiple stops where they have to wear a mask (something thousands have been pushed into during the crisis) and it doesn't bother them to leave it on... Well then you're kind of an arrogant, ignorant *******.

I mean, if someone isn't smart enough to make that incredibly simple evaluation then how much weight should we really give any of their pseudo-medical input?

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