Charlie Kirk Assassination Man Hunt Updates & Speculation[Staff Edit]

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1:07p, 9/11/25
Credit SeaSpeed on the other thread...



This guy apparently denying he had anything to do with it, but looks like a match.
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In reply to JobSecurity • 1:07p, 9/11/25
JobSecurity said:
Keyno said:


They made it seem like they'd only release this if facial recognition didn't work.

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In reply to aggiez03 • 1:08p, 9/11/25
aggiez03 said:
Credit SeaSpeed on the other thread...



This guy apparently denying he had anything to do with it, but looks like a match.

Still worthy of a FBI visit.
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1:08p, 9/11/25
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In reply to Gnome Sayin • 1:10p, 9/11/25
Gnome Sayin said:

Doesn't look like a match to me
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1:10p, 9/11/25
Yes - somebody knows this guy!
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1:10p, 9/11/25
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In reply to FobTies • 1:11p, 9/11/25
Yeah, the noses aren't even relatively close
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1:13p, 9/11/25
Looks like a trans man.
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In reply to aggiez03 • 1:13p, 9/11/25
aggiez03 said:
Credit SeaSpeed on the other thread...



This guy apparently denying he had anything to do with it, but looks like a match.

This is gaining traction on numerous channels.....
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1:13p, 9/11/25
The enhanced photo is AI. Even though grainy, the photo of an eagle over the American flag T Shirt should not look like a Japanese prairie chicken dry humping a Yellowstone cutthroat trout.
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1:14p, 9/11/25
This could be something…
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In reply to TeddyAg0422 • 1:15p, 9/11/25
TeddyAg0422 said:
Yeah, the noses aren't even relatively close

Be careful trying to face match off bad photos…
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In reply to FobTies • 1:16p, 9/11/25
FobTies said:
Gnome Sayin said:

Doesn't look like a match to me

Well this is all comparing to an AI picture, no? The photos the FBI released are far too grainy to know those features of his nose
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In reply to HTownAg98 • 1:16p, 9/11/25
HTownAg98 said:
This could be something…

Yeah…they were getting ready to go live and then made a big deal about postponing it…

Something of significance has probably come to light…
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In reply to Kvetch • 1:18p, 9/11/25
Kvetch said:
Omperlodge said:
Who?mikejones! said:
Shooter was "of college age" and blended in well with a college setting.

It was a student, my guess

They know who it is. If they didn't they would put the picture out to the public to id him in like 5 minutes.


If they have the gun, they know who it is registered to. Combined with the video evidence, I'm sure it's just a matter of determining where he might have gone.

Sigh. When will people realize there's no big registration system out there for firearms? FBI can do their FBI thing and try to track from seller to seller, but there's no place they can all go be looked up. Even for those only sold by an FFL to a single individual, that never changed hands again.
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In reply to Prince_Ahmed • 1:20p, 9/11/25
Prince_Ahmed said:
Kvetch said:
Omperlodge said:
Who?mikejones! said:
Shooter was "of college age" and blended in well with a college setting.

It was a student, my guess

They know who it is. If they didn't they would put the picture out to the public to id him in like 5 minutes.


If they have the gun, they know who it is registered to. Combined with the video evidence, I'm sure it's just a matter of determining where he might have gone.

Sigh. When will people realize there's no big registration system out there for firearms? FBI can do their FBI thing and try to track from seller to seller, but there's no place they can all go be looked up. Even for those only sold by an FFL to a single individual, that never changed hands again.


I bet it was a 22 from 200 yards
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In reply to FireAg • 1:21p, 9/11/25
FireAg said:
HTownAg98 said:
This could be something…

Yeah…they were getting ready to go live and then made a big deal about postponing it…

Something of significance has probably come to light…

Self inflicted gunshot to the assassin's dome?
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In reply to pdc093 • 1:22p, 9/11/25
That's my bet.
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In reply to Prince_Ahmed • 1:22p, 9/11/25
Prince_Ahmed said:
Kvetch said:
Omperlodge said:
Who?mikejones! said:
Shooter was "of college age" and blended in well with a college setting.

It was a student, my guess

They know who it is. If they didn't they would put the picture out to the public to id him in like 5 minutes.


If they have the gun, they know who it is registered to. Combined with the video evidence, I'm sure it's just a matter of determining where he might have gone.

Sigh. When will people realize there's no big registration system out there for firearms? FBI can do their FBI thing and try to track from seller to seller, but there's no place they can all go be looked up. Even for those only sold by an FFL to a single individual, that never changed hands again.

If they have the gun, they have the serial number (unless it was removed). If they have the serial, they can contact the manufacturer/distributor and find out what retailer it went to. From there its a simple matter to ask for the paperwork to find the buyer which every seller is required to keep.
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In reply to pdc093 • 1:22p, 9/11/25
Could be anything from they now have a name because they got enough reliable tips, or they found the body.
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In reply to javajaws • 1:23p, 9/11/25
javajaws said:
Prince_Ahmed said:
Kvetch said:
Omperlodge said:
Who?mikejones! said:
Shooter was "of college age" and blended in well with a college setting.

It was a student, my guess

They know who it is. If they didn't they would put the picture out to the public to id him in like 5 minutes.


If they have the gun, they know who it is registered to. Combined with the video evidence, I'm sure it's just a matter of determining where he might have gone.

Sigh. When will people realize there's no big registration system out there for firearms? FBI can do their FBI thing and try to track from seller to seller, but there's no place they can all go be looked up. Even for those only sold by an FFL to a single individual, that never changed hands again.

If they have the gun, they have the serial number (unless it was removed). If they have the serial, they can contact the manufacturer/distributor and find out what retailer it went to. From there its a simple matter to ask for the paperwork to find the buyer which every seller is required to keep.

Unless it's changed hands in private party sales since then. Ever bought a gun with cash?
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In reply to javajaws • 1:24p, 9/11/25
javajaws said:
Prince_Ahmed said:
Kvetch said:
Omperlodge said:
Who?mikejones! said:
Shooter was "of college age" and blended in well with a college setting.

It was a student, my guess

They know who it is. If they didn't they would put the picture out to the public to id him in like 5 minutes.


If they have the gun, they know who it is registered to. Combined with the video evidence, I'm sure it's just a matter of determining where he might have gone.

Sigh. When will people realize there's no big registration system out there for firearms? FBI can do their FBI thing and try to track from seller to seller, but there's no place they can all go be looked up. Even for those only sold by an FFL to a single individual, that never changed hands again.

If they have the gun, they have the serial number (unless it was removed). If they have the serial, they can contact the manufacturer/distributor and find out what retailer it went to. From there it's a simple matter to ask for the paperwork to find the buyer which every seller is required to keep.

That all works if there isn't a private transfer somewhere in that chain of possession.
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In reply to Prince_Ahmed • 1:25p, 9/11/25
Prince_Ahmed said:
Kvetch said:
Omperlodge said:
Who?mikejones! said:
Shooter was "of college age" and blended in well with a college setting.

It was a student, my guess

They know who it is. If they didn't they would put the picture out to the public to id him in like 5 minutes.


If they have the gun, they know who it is registered to. Combined with the video evidence, I'm sure it's just a matter of determining where he might have gone.

Sigh. When will people realize there's no big registration system out there for firearms? FBI can do their FBI thing and try to track from seller to seller, but there's no place they can all go be looked up. Even for those only sold by an FFL to a single individual, that never changed hands again.

I was an FFL for a decade. You're partially correct. Last statement is more nuanced. If it's a brand new gun never sold before, and you buy it and never sell it, the feds will find you. They'll go manufacturer> distributor> selling FFL and the 4473 will give you away.

If you buy a used gun from an FFL, there's less of a trail since they'll have to go to the original owner and start tracing from that point. Private party sales are nearly untraceable.
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1:26p, 9/11/25
They say presser "has been suspended" due to rapid movements in the investigation…

Sure makes it sound like they have something substantial they are onto…
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In reply to Prince_Ahmed • 1:26p, 9/11/25
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Sigh. When will people realize there's no big registration system out there for firearms? FBI can do their FBI thing and try to track from seller to seller, but there's no place they can all go be looked up. Even for those only sold by an FFL to a single individual, that never changed hands again.

That's not what we were told when they identified Thomas Crooks as the Butler shooter.
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In reply to javajaws • 1:29p, 9/11/25
javajaws said:
Prince_Ahmed said:
Kvetch said:
Omperlodge said:
Who?mikejones! said:
Shooter was "of college age" and blended in well with a college setting.

It was a student, my guess

They know who it is. If they didn't they would put the picture out to the public to id him in like 5 minutes.


If they have the gun, they know who it is registered to. Combined with the video evidence, I'm sure it's just a matter of determining where he might have gone.

Sigh. When will people realize there's no big registration system out there for firearms? FBI can do their FBI thing and try to track from seller to seller, but there's no place they can all go be looked up. Even for those only sold by an FFL to a single individual, that never changed hands again.

If they have the gun, they have the serial number (unless it was removed). If they have the serial, they can contact the manufacturer/distributor and find out what retailer it went to. From there its a simple matter to ask for the paperwork to find the buyer which every seller is required to keep.

They only have to keep it for 20 years. It doesn't track who sold it and bought it afterwards, unless it was done through another FFL transaction.
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In reply to javajaws • 1:29p, 9/11/25
javajaws said:
Prince_Ahmed said:
Kvetch said:
Omperlodge said:
Who?mikejones! said:
Shooter was "of college age" and blended in well with a college setting.

It was a student, my guess

They know who it is. If they didn't they would put the picture out to the public to id him in like 5 minutes.


If they have the gun, they know who it is registered to. Combined with the video evidence, I'm sure it's just a matter of determining where he might have gone.

Sigh. When will people realize there's no big registration system out there for firearms? FBI can do their FBI thing and try to track from seller to seller, but there's no place they can all go be looked up. Even for those only sold by an FFL to a single individual, that never changed hands again.

If they have the gun, they have the serial number (unless it was removed). If they have the serial, they can contact the manufacturer/distributor and find out what retailer it went to. From there its a simple matter to ask for the paperwork to find the buyer which every seller is required to keep.


No one actually does this right?
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1:29p, 9/11/25
Wrong thread
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In reply to javajaws • 1:30p, 9/11/25
javajaws said:
Prince_Ahmed said:
Kvetch said:
Omperlodge said:
Who?mikejones! said:
Shooter was "of college age" and blended in well with a college setting.

It was a student, my guess

They know who it is. If they didn't they would put the picture out to the public to id him in like 5 minutes.


If they have the gun, they know who it is registered to. Combined with the video evidence, I'm sure it's just a matter of determining where he might have gone.

Sigh. When will people realize there's no big registration system out there for firearms? FBI can do their FBI thing and try to track from seller to seller, but there's no place they can all go be looked up. Even for those only sold by an FFL to a single individual, that never changed hands again.

If they have the gun, they have the serial number (unless it was removed). If they have the serial, they can contact the manufacturer/distributor and find out what retailer it went to. From there its a simple matter to ask for the paperwork to find the buyer which every seller is required to keep.

That's what I meant by saying the FBI can do their FBI thing. But it's old fashioned police work and not "looking to see who it's registered to." It's not registered to anyone. That's not a thing. But there could be a trail to follow.

But also, private sellers aren't required to keep anything. It may be prudent to, but there's no requirement unless you're an FFL.
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In reply to Swan Song • 1:31p, 9/11/25
This is a very good point, but running with a gun for a long distance isn't really a run-away strategy during a manhunt.
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In reply to Prince_Ahmed • 1:33p, 9/11/25
Prince_Ahmed said:
javajaws said:
Prince_Ahmed said:
Kvetch said:
Omperlodge said:
Who?mikejones! said:
Shooter was "of college age" and blended in well with a college setting.

It was a student, my guess

They know who it is. If they didn't they would put the picture out to the public to id him in like 5 minutes.


If they have the gun, they know who it is registered to. Combined with the video evidence, I'm sure it's just a matter of determining where he might have gone.

Sigh. When will people realize there's no big registration system out there for firearms? FBI can do their FBI thing and try to track from seller to seller, but there's no place they can all go be looked up. Even for those only sold by an FFL to a single individual, that never changed hands again.

If they have the gun, they have the serial number (unless it was removed). If they have the serial, they can contact the manufacturer/distributor and find out what retailer it went to. From there its a simple matter to ask for the paperwork to find the buyer which every seller is required to keep.

That's what I meant by saying the FBI can do their FBI thing. But it's old fashioned police work and not "looking to see who it's registered to." It's not registered to anyone. That's not a thing. But there could be a trail to follow.

But also, private sellers aren't required to keep anything. It may be prudent to, but there's no requirement unless you're an FFL.


Exactly
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In reply to HTownAg98 • 1:35p, 9/11/25
HTownAg98 said:
This could be something…

Both hands are closed like he is carrying something in each hand. Not sure what that would be.
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1:37p, 9/11/25
Shooter is probably the son/trans of the older white guy that was originally arrested yesterday. I'd love more info on that guy and why he was initially arrested.
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1:38p, 9/11/25
I hope when they do find him, he is not given a chance to speak. It will only make things worse.
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