Charlie Kirk Assassination Man Hunt Updates & Speculation[Staff Edit]

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agent-maroon
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AgBQ-00 said:

And all of us pointed it out when it happened that there would be violence as the result.


Feature, not a bug.
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yep
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"We're going to turn this red Prius into a soup kitchen!"
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Watch this! It will blow your mind. Forensic analysis of the Kirk assassination by a professional sniper. The rabbit hole just went deeper.
Rapier108
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Some people are so desperate to make everything into a conspiracy, and I don't mean one by a bunch of transtifa losers. That looks to be actually very possible.

They want it to be a hit by Israel, the "deep state" Russia, China, North Korea, Cuba, Iran, etc. etc. etc. and it involves hundreds if not thousands of people.
"If you will not fight for right when you can easily win without blood shed; if you will not fight when your victory is sure and not too costly; you may come to the moment when you will have to fight with all the odds against you and only a precarious chance of survival. There may even be a worse case. You may have to fight when there is no hope of victory, because it is better to perish than to live as slaves." - Sir Winston Churchill
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Does that mean Kash Patel and team are lying to us?
AgBQ-00
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everyone I've seen in the video immediately duck and look back at the roof where the shooter was and was shown on video by the kid filming on his phone and the surveillance.
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And that's how deep the rabbit hole is, they were all in on it
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Rapier108
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infinity ag said:

Does that mean Kash Patel and team are lying to us?

It means Trump would be in on it as well, which is why its a stupid conspiracy theory on its face.

Trump has his flaws, but killing a friend and ally isn't one of them and if some other country did it, even Israel, Trump would rain hell fire on them. He would not cover it up.
"If you will not fight for right when you can easily win without blood shed; if you will not fight when your victory is sure and not too costly; you may come to the moment when you will have to fight with all the odds against you and only a precarious chance of survival. There may even be a worse case. You may have to fight when there is no hope of victory, because it is better to perish than to live as slaves." - Sir Winston Churchill
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Thought this was well done and spot on:

aggiehawg
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Throwing the BS flag on that one. A cell phone camera does not have the number of frames per second to catch a bullet in midair. The one shot we know of showing a bullet in midair is from the Butler shooting of Trump and hat was a ridiculously high shutter speed on a very expensive camera. And that image has a long tail, not a single speck.

Paramount Tactical went through that guy's video and pointed out the flaws.

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Rapier108 said:

infinity ag said:

Does that mean Kash Patel and team are lying to us?

It means Trump would be in on it as well, which is why its a stupid conspiracy theory on its face.

Trump has his flaws, but killing a friend and ally isn't one of them and if some other country did it, even Israel, Trump would rain hell fire on them. He would not cover it up.

Unless it was only supposed to graze his ear, like what Trump ordered to happen in PA. /s
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drcrinum said:




Watch this! It will blow your mind. Forensic analysis of the Kirk assassination by a professional sniper. The rabbit hole just went deeper.

I call BS.

Frame rates, no reason to use laser, reflection could anything, muzzle flash to impact 8-9 frames compared to 2700FPS, crowd closest to that supposed corner doesn't look up, then the biggest ones for me......No blood splatter out into his front from an exit wound. We forget this is the carotid artery it doesn't take much of a hole to spill pints of blood in 1/4 seconds. Body movement from force also in wrong direction.

Search Richard Zednick and one other NHL player who had their carotids slashed.

If Mossad wanted CK killed they would not have done it so publicly and the risk of getting caught would far outweigh any minimal criticism that he may have had recently. Israel has been criticized by the world far more deeply, backed up by actual consequences, from around the world, for the last 50 years. CK was not an enemy of Israel and any thought of such is Ludicrous.
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aggiehawg said:

Throwing the BS flag on that one. A cell phone camera does not have the number of frames per second to catch a bullet in midair. The one shot we know of showing a bullet in midair is from the Butler shooting of Trump and hat was a ridiculously high shutter speed on a very expensive camera. And that image has a long tail, not a single speck.

Paramount Tactical went through that guy's video and pointed out the flaws.



Not to derail but it only takes 1 frame... and modern mobile shoot higher frame rates than typical production video cameras ... I don't subscribe to the theory at all; he may know all about ballistics and calibers and such, but I certainly don't highly value a sniper's opinion on the intricacies of extremely complicated physics, dynamics and kinematics.
drcrinum
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Well to be honest, I didn't pay any attention to the possible bullet frame as I doubt it's relevant. My problem is that what you see in the left neck is not an entrance wound IMO, and the chap in the video you referenced agrees that it's an unusual appearing wound to him. Then there's the much much bigger problem: IF that neck wound is the entrance wound, then where the hell is the corresponding exit wound? Even the camera view #4 from the side shows no blood/human debris flying out from the back side, and there's nothing on that white screen behind him. A high powered rifle with an entrance wound in the side of the neck and no exit wound doesn't compute for me.

Of course everything at this juncture is speculation. Let's revisit this point when we see the autopsy report (if it's not sequestered for the next 75 years by a judge).
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drcrinum said:

Well to be honest, I didn't pay any attention to the possible bullet frame as I doubt it's relevant. My problem is that what you see in the left neck is not an entrance wound IMO, and the chap in the video you referenced agrees that it's an unusual appearing wound to him. Then there's the much much bigger problem: IF that neck wound is the entrance wound, then where the hell is the corresponding exit wound? Even the camera view #4 from the side shows no blood/human debris flying out from the back side, and there's nothing on that white screen behind him. A high powered rifle with an entrance wound in the side of the neck and no exit wound doesn't compute for me.

Of course everything at this juncture is speculation. Let's revisit this point when we see the autopsy report (if it's not sequestered for the next 75 years by a judge).

BUT, if Charlie was wearing a thin curved metal breast plate (that would not cover his nipples since he's a big guy) a deflected and deformed bullet would lose enough velocity to stop it from going through the back of the skull. And if you watch the Paramount Tactical video I posted there are a few frames from Charlie's right side that seem to suggest there was movement in the back of his skull from that profile shot. It is really weird to watch and even harder to explain exactly what al of those camera angles captured or did not capture.

Wish we could read the autopsy to clear some things up.
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Just saw a report on Bret Baier (sorry don't have link) where I think an state of Utah investigator or prosecutor was saying right now it appears as if Robinson acted alone and no one had prior knowledge he was going to do this.
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A 30-06 at 200 yds has right around 2000 ft/lbs of energy at 200 yds depending on the bullet. I think people are looking to much at the body's reaction to that amount of energy impacting it. I refuse to watch the video again to try and see what some of you are seeing but imagine absorbing that amount of energy.
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I saw that too, but if a high-powered bullet had displaced a large bone fragment in the back of the skull, the overlying soft tissue would not have remained intact. Don't forget, the alleged weapon is a Mauser 98; by your theory, the bullet would have had to traverse dense bone in the base of the skull first...surely his head would have jerked upward and back instead of going forward.
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So why was he carving bullets and telling his roommate about it?
4stringAg
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jt2hunt said:

So why was he carving bullets and telling his roommate about it?


Don't know. Just reporting what the guy said. Personally I think it's bull***** His furry lover and probably local trans activists knew
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His ass needs to be in jail in chargeD
David_Puddy
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Yeah I'm not sure why the roommate isn't in custody and being questioned as an accomplice, unless I just somehow missed it.
IslanderAg04
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Anyone read up on the John Brown gun club in dfw. Looks like the plot thickens. https://www.currentrevolt.com/p/breaking-local-dfw-antifa-group-possibly
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IslanderAg04 said:

Anyone read up on the John Brown gun club in dfw. Looks like the plot thickens. https://www.currentrevolt.com/p/breaking-local-dfw-antifa-group-possibly

If you see a rainbow flag, they likely want to kill you if you're a christian.
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They're the antifa who brought long guns to protect the kid's drag show in Roanoke. And one of them got arrested at another kids drag show in Fort Worth where he was tracked on camera after pepper spraying conservative protesters. They were armed, masked up, and had umbrellas to hide their identities. Based out of Denton and one of them owns a gun store or a range or something like that.

It's all very connected to the most ardent supporters of trans ideology.
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Lot of people running with these Israel conspiracy theories.
- 12 Israeli cell phones at the gathering
- sound report states "pop" was 80 feet away (never heard of a sound report)
- slow motion video showing the bullet came from behind Charlie rather than in front. (Video looks suspect as if doctored)

Why the push to tag Isreal on this?
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How many of these "analysis videos" are Russian/Chinese/whatever disinformation campaigns? How many of these folks doing those so-called "analyses" are getting paid to do them?

I'm very, very skeptical of the claims that Charlie was shot from the rear. Was there an entry wound on the back of his neck? Why didn't the bullet hit someone in front of him after it exited his neck?

I don't trust the government at all, but I trust internet "experts" even less.
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Also why now is Israel supposed to be a big focus? Just do the math and see that the Right is as united as ever. The best opposition will be to amplify any differences.

That's why I'm skeptical if anyone tries to make this killing about Israel. We're destroying legions of progressive resistance and suddenly it's not them??? Don't take that bait. Debate Israel on its own issues.
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Any time something like this happens there are idiots that insist that the obvious answer couldn't possibly be true and that there's a deep, complex conspiracy that they are too smart to not figure out.
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JB!98 said:

A 30-06 at 200 yds has right around 2000 ft/lbs of energy at 200 yds depending on the bullet. I think people are looking to much at the body's reaction to that amount of energy impacting it. I refuse to watch the video again to try and see what some of you are seeing but imagine absorbing that amount of energy.


Honestly i watch it every day just to piss me off around what these bottom feeders are capable of.
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KingofHazor said:

How many of these "analysis videos" are Russian/Chinese/whatever disinformation campaigns? How many of these folks doing those so-called "analyses" are getting paid to do them?

I'm very, very skeptical of the claims that Charlie was shot from the rear. Was there an entry wound on the back of his neck? Why didn't the bullet hit someone in front of him after it exited his neck?

I don't trust the government at all, but I trust internet "experts" even less.


If you watch it in slow motion you see it hit his upper chest, push him up, then shrapnel pulls his collar up and goes up his neck. You can see the body armor bump up. A 30-06 direct to the neck would have done more dmg.
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IslanderAg04 said:

KingofHazor said:

How many of these "analysis videos" are Russian/Chinese/whatever disinformation campaigns? How many of these folks doing those so-called "analyses" are getting paid to do them?

I'm very, very skeptical of the claims that Charlie was shot from the rear. Was there an entry wound on the back of his neck? Why didn't the bullet hit someone in front of him after it exited his neck?

I don't trust the government at all, but I trust internet "experts" even less.


If you watch it in slow motion you see it hit his upper chest, push him up, then shrapnel pulls his collar up and goes up his neck. You can see the body armor bump up. A 30-06 direct to the neck would have done more dmg.


Seriously stop with the body armor. He. Was. Not. Wearing. Any.

A solid plate would never show his "moobs" (apologies for lack of a better word) as is seen in multiple photo and video angles immediately before he is shot.

Have you ever been hunting? Serious question.

If you have, then you know that you can hear the report of the impact on an animal before the rifle report. There was no "thud" or "ding" from hitting a solid plate. He was shot directly in the neck.


And I say all that as someone who originally thought he was shot from his right side due to the nature of bleeding and the way he slumped to his left. But I was wrong. He was shot almost directly straight on…in the neck.
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Above is a followup video from the earlier one I posted about the shooter being located on the upper-right side of Charlie; that original 20 min video has been removed from X...apparently there were complaints about it being too graphic.

I know this is not a popular view on this board, and I admit my expertise in examining gunshot wounds is up close and after the fact, but IMO, I fear something is wrong with the standard MSM narrative:

1) I cannot find a single credible news source reporting Charlie was wearing a bullet proof vest. Maybe someone here can locate a police/FBI report confirming it. The charging document states the bullet struck him in the neck with the trajectory passing close to observers standing near him; no mention of ricocheting off a bullet proof vest. (https://utahnewsdispatch.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/09/TJR-Information-1.pdf)

2) The alleged shooting trajectory was downward and came slightly from Charlie's left. The alleged weapon was a Mauser 98, a military grade weapon. 8mm FMJ bullets don't ricochet off body armor; they significantly disrupt the outer surface layers and can be somewhat deflected if striking along the edges, but I've seen nothing in any video of a disruptive effect in Charlie's tee shirt to show this has happened. (There are plenty of videos on Youtube about shooting at various bullet proof vests with high velocity rifles.)

3) Charlie's body motion-momentum in the shooting carried him to his left and forward, not backward and to his right.

4) No videos, including side videos, show a corresponding second wound for the complete entrance-exit wound scenario...not that there isn't a second wound, although entrance wounds can be very small. 8mm Mauser/30.06 shootings are most often through and through wounds; in the neck there should be a blowout injury in the back of the neck with evidence of debris/bullet on the white canopy immediately behind him; I doubt a vertebrae could completely stop it. Even if you want to believe in a deflected bullet off a B-P vest, a downward trajectory converted to a near vertical one to take the bullet thru the neck into the skull would involve some unimaginable physics IMO.

5) It is unbelievable that the shooting scene was not protected as a crime scene; the tent was quickly dismantled and the site significantly altered shortly thereafter. If they don't have a bullet in their possession (from inside the body), there's a major problem for the prosecution.

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