Charlie Kirk Assassination Man Hunt Updates & Speculation[Staff Edit]

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Aggiew00d
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"Charlie wasn't conservative enough" is the new Russia hoax.

I can't believe Aggies are on here spewing that bull*****
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Daddy-O5
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This got posted before. Former MSNBC anchor with 100k followers on X. I'm sure he's the guy we need to be listening to.
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FTA011 said:

Grok Summary

Based on available reports from police interviews, family statements, and social media analysis following Tyler Robinson's arrest, he appears to have been a follower of Nick Fuentes and aligned with far-right conservative ideologiesspecifically, the white nationalist "Groyper" movement that Fuentes leads. Robinson, a 22-year-old from Utah raised in a Republican family, had reportedly grown "more political" in recent years and expressed admiration for Fuentes during family discussions, viewing Charlie Kirk (the conservative activist he is accused of assassinating) as insufficiently radical or "not conservative enough." This sentiment aligns with the Groypers' long-standing public feuds against Kirk and Turning Point USA for being too mainstream or "fake conservatives."
Key indicators include:
Social media evidence: Photos and posts linked to Robinson reference Groyper memes (e.g., a variant of the Pepe the Frog symbol used by Fuentes' followers), leading to speculation that he was part of the online "Groyper Army," which promotes ultranationalist, white supremacist views under the guise of ironic humor. Classmates described him as a "Reddit kid," consistent with immersion in far-right online spaces like 4chan and Discord servers where Groypers congregate.
Reported motivations: According to Utah officials and family interviews, Robinson hated Kirk for allegedly spreading "hate" but from a far-right perspectivebelieving Kirk diluted Trump's "America First" message and was a "fascist" gatekeeper, echoing Fuentes' criticisms. This intra-conservative rift, known as the "Groyper Wars," dates back to 2019 when Fuentes' followers disrupted Kirk's events.
Background context: Robinson was not formally affiliated with a political party (though his parents are registered Republicans) and had no prior criminal history, but his online activity and engravings on bullet casings (initially misinterpreted as anti-fascist but later tied to satirical far-right video game memes co-opted by Groypers) point to far-right radicalization. He was active in Discord, where he planned the shooting, and sources confirm he "reportedly admired Nick Fuentes."
While investigations are ongoing and some details (like exact Discord contacts) remain under review, the consensus from law enforcement, journalists, and public analysis is that Robinson's actions stemmed from far-right extremism, not left-wing or unrelated motives. Fuentes himself has denied direct ties but condemned the violence, amid deleted posts from far-right figures distancing themselves.
You fabricated all of that. Just like you Demtards said the Walz-appointed MN senator assassin was a "Trump supporter". The whole nation knows that Democrats are hateful, perverted, violent animals.
MouthBQ98
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My hard left cousin is currently parroting the Fuentes supporter narrative…the left is very eff five at feeding its base bull*****
backintexas2013
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Oh he has some great takes. He said Kamala was going to win and this was on election night. There was a poster who used his tweet about record turnout in Philly was going to win it for Kamala. The poster never returned. Unfortunately this idiot still has a job at MSNBC
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Are they afraid?

You better believe it.

They wanted blood. They wanted political killings. They wanted death.

On the 10th, they were congratulating themselves.

By the 12th, they were distancing themselves.

Robinson is the product of a bloodlust they wanted and now seek to disclaim.

Not even the socialists at The Guardian buy their canned excuses.



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4stringAg said:

FTA011 said:

Grok Summary

Based on available reports from police interviews, family statements, and social media analysis following Tyler Robinson's arrest, he appears to have been a follower of Nick Fuentes and aligned with far-right conservative ideologiesspecifically, the white nationalist "Groyper" movement that Fuentes leads. Robinson, a 22-year-old from Utah raised in a Republican family, had reportedly grown "more political" in recent years and expressed admiration for Fuentes during family discussions, viewing Charlie Kirk (the conservative activist he is accused of assassinating) as insufficiently radical or "not conservative enough." This sentiment aligns with the Groypers' long-standing public feuds against Kirk and Turning Point USA for being too mainstream or "fake conservatives."
Key indicators include:
Social media evidence: Photos and posts linked to Robinson reference Groyper memes (e.g., a variant of the Pepe the Frog symbol used by Fuentes' followers), leading to speculation that he was part of the online "Groyper Army," which promotes ultranationalist, white supremacist views under the guise of ironic humor. Classmates described him as a "Reddit kid," consistent with immersion in far-right online spaces like 4chan and Discord servers where Groypers congregate.
Reported motivations: According to Utah officials and family interviews, Robinson hated Kirk for allegedly spreading "hate" but from a far-right perspectivebelieving Kirk diluted Trump's "America First" message and was a "fascist" gatekeeper, echoing Fuentes' criticisms. This intra-conservative rift, known as the "Groyper Wars," dates back to 2019 when Fuentes' followers disrupted Kirk's events.
Background context: Robinson was not formally affiliated with a political party (though his parents are registered Republicans) and had no prior criminal history, but his online activity and engravings on bullet casings (initially misinterpreted as anti-fascist but later tied to satirical far-right video game memes co-opted by Groypers) point to far-right radicalization. He was active in Discord, where he planned the shooting, and sources confirm he "reportedly admired Nick Fuentes."
While investigations are ongoing and some details (like exact Discord contacts) remain under review, the consensus from law enforcement, journalists, and public analysis is that Robinson's actions stemmed from far-right extremism, not left-wing or unrelated motives. Fuentes himself has denied direct ties but condemned the violence, amid deleted posts from far-right figures distancing themselves.


lol. Grok is full of *****

Robinson believed Kirk was full of hate but from a far right perspective. Wtf? That makes no sense at all. Where does Grok pull its AI info from? Directly from Reddit?

Grok pulls from Twitter and all day long the left is blasting out the claims that Robinson follows Fuentes and is a right wing nutjob so garbage in, garbage out.

Just like the time Grok went on an anti-Semite rant and praised Hitler. Twitter was being flooded with those kinds of tweets by tons of pro-Hamas people.
"If you will not fight for right when you can easily win without blood shed; if you will not fight when your victory is sure and not too costly; you may come to the moment when you will have to fight with all the odds against you and only a precarious chance of survival. There may even be a worse case. You may have to fight when there is no hope of victory, because it is better to perish than to live as slaves." - Sir Winston Churchill
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None of that is wrong. But who's "they"?

"They" also did it with ai photos to make it seem like the fbi suspect was one of a few people that debated Charlie before.
Psycho Bunny
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Until the radicals on NBC, ABC, CBS, MSNBC, CNN, The View, and even some on Foxnews are fired and dealt with. Legacy media is dead and have 0 credibility.
When you tear out a man's tongue, you are not proving him a liar, you're only telling the world that you fear what he might say.
Mr.Milkshake
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Haven't been able to keep up. Was there an explanation for no rifle in the stairwell pics, and no rifle on the rooftop run and jump video?

You cannot break that gun down in seconds, and if you could was it reassembled in the woods?
Ryan the Temp
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Mr.Milkshake said:

Haven't been able to keep up. Was there an explanation for no rifle in the stairwell pics, and no rifle on the rooftop run and jump video?

You cannot break that gun down in seconds, and if you could was it reassembled in the woods?

I saw reporting within a few hours that law enforcement said they found a screwdriver that was associated with the shooter, and the speculation was the rifle was assembled on the roof.
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Ryan the Temp said:

Mr.Milkshake said:

Haven't been able to keep up. Was there an explanation for no rifle in the stairwell pics, and no rifle on the rooftop run and jump video?

You cannot break that gun down in seconds, and if you could was it reassembled in the woods?

I saw reporting within a few hours that law enforcement said they found a screwdriver that was associated with the shooter, and the speculation was the rifle was assembled on the roof.


There is 0% a Mauser 98 was assembled on the roof. That is a bolt action rifle that is absolutely not easy to be broken down. He was limping towards the building. Speculation is he had the rifle concealed down his right leg.


Again, no way he broke that rifle down and reassembled it in the 1 minute the video showed he arrived on the roof and fired the shot. As a Mauser 98 owner there is no way. Absolutely improbable.
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MouthBQ98 said:

My hard left cousin is currently parroting the Fuentes supporter narrative…the left is very eff five at feeding its base bull*****

They have a history of effectively doing that. How many dems do you know that the "parties switched in the 60's" believe that bull*****
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Mr.Milkshake said:

Haven't been able to keep up. Was there an explanation for no rifle in the stairwell pics, and no rifle on the rooftop run and jump video?

You cannot break that gun down in seconds, and if you could was it reassembled in the woods?

I was wondering the very same thing about the running across the roof and jumping down from the roof, as it did not seem like he was carrying the rifle when performing those two acts after the heinous act. However, I saw a recently released video (as of today) sometime where there seems to be enough footage to be able to make out the rifle wrapped in a dark towel as he is jumping off the roof. The footage seems to show the parts of the towel loosely flapping.
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Mr.Milkshake said:

Haven't been able to keep up. Was there an explanation for no rifle in the stairwell pics, and no rifle on the rooftop run and jump video?

You cannot break that gun down in seconds, and if you could was it reassembled in the woods?

Regarding the no rifle in stairwell pic, there is footage out there prior to the act of him walking down the street with a right leg foot drag and that right leg stays straight in the stairwell picture. Believed that he hid the rifle in his pants down his right leg and you can kind of see a bulge (in the stairwell picture) in his midsection/belly button area where the buttstock of the rifle probably was.
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WC87 said:

Ryan the Temp said:

Mr.Milkshake said:

Haven't been able to keep up. Was there an explanation for no rifle in the stairwell pics, and no rifle on the rooftop run and jump video?

You cannot break that gun down in seconds, and if you could was it reassembled in the woods?

I saw reporting within a few hours that law enforcement said they found a screwdriver that was associated with the shooter, and the speculation was the rifle was assembled on the roof.


There is 0% a Mauser 98 was assembled on the roof. That is a bolt action rifle that is absolutely not easy to be broken down. He was limping towards the building. Speculation is he had the rifle concealed down his right leg.


Again, no way he broke that rifle down and reassembled it in the 1 minute the video showed he arrived on the roof and fired the shot. As a Mauser 98 owner there is no way. Absolutely improbable.
Good to know. Thanks for the info.
backintexas2013
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Yep. There is zero information supporting that he was a NF believer. None whatsoever but that doesn't keep the liberal on here to make that accusation. Notice he can't back it up but other than some random idiot's tweet.

backintexas2013
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You going to come back and discuss this? Of course not. Drive by posting is such a lib thing.
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Wait... what is the current narrative? Is this puke kid a hero to the left for ridding the world of hitler 2.0 or Is the kid hitler 2.0? Are we supposed to believe these people actually care either way since the "bad guy" is gone?

So much I want to type, but I don't want to catch a ban on a day full of some great college football match ups.
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MS08 said:

Mr.Milkshake said:

Haven't been able to keep up. Was there an explanation for no rifle in the stairwell pics, and no rifle on the rooftop run and jump video?

You cannot break that gun down in seconds, and if you could was it reassembled in the woods?

I was wondering the very same thing about the running across the roof and jumping down from the roof, as it did not seem like he was carrying the rifle when performing those two acts after the heinous act. However, I saw a recently released video (as of today) sometime where there seems to be enough footage to be able to make out the rifle wrapped in a dark towel as he is jumping off the roof. The footage seems to show the parts of the towel loosely flapping.


He absolutely had the rifle wrapped in a towel in his hands when he jumped off the roof. You can see the towel in his hand. As he's coming over the side of the wall the towel/gun goes over his head and down to his side, and after he hits the ground you can see him running away with the towel/gun in his hand.
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I really don't understand people.

"We the people are the rightful masters of both Congress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution."

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MS08 said:

Mr.Milkshake said:

Haven't been able to keep up. Was there an explanation for no rifle in the stairwell pics, and no rifle on the rooftop run and jump video?

You cannot break that gun down in seconds, and if you could was it reassembled in the woods?

Regarding the no rifle in stairwell pic, there is footage out there prior to the act of him walking down the street with a right leg foot drag and that right leg stays straight in the stairwell picture. Believed that he hid the rifle in his pants down his right leg and you can kind of see a bulge (in the stairwell picture) in his midsection/belly button area where the buttstock of the rifle probably was.

There are separate pictures in the stairwell showing him able to bend both knees. You would not be able to do this with the barrel down the jeans. Furthermore, he is wearing skinny jeans and a tight fitting shirt. The rifle would be unquestionably visible, and it just is not.
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Even the footage of Robinson jumping down from roof shows a towel or a shirt. Hard to see how a scoped rifle is wrapped up in that.
txaggie_08
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Given the quality of the video I think it's pretty easily to see the rifle. The towel is erect when he's jumping off the roof.
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A question I've been pondering about the murder weapon…..

The liberals finally got a genuine "weapon of war" used in a high profile killing, but no peeps about it. I wonder why? Not scary enough looking?
Being in TexAgs jail changes a man……..no, not really
MouthBQ98
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Bolt action?

I imagine he had it pre-positioned.
MS08
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Keyno said:

MS08 said:

Mr.Milkshake said:

Haven't been able to keep up. Was there an explanation for no rifle in the stairwell pics, and no rifle on the rooftop run and jump video?

You cannot break that gun down in seconds, and if you could was it reassembled in the woods?

Regarding the no rifle in stairwell pic, there is footage out there prior to the act of him walking down the street with a right leg foot drag and that right leg stays straight in the stairwell picture. Believed that he hid the rifle in his pants down his right leg and you can kind of see a bulge (in the stairwell picture) in his midsection/belly button area where the buttstock of the rifle probably was.

There are separate pictures in the stairwell showing him able to bend both knees. You would not be able to do this with the barrel down the jeans. Furthermore, he is wearing skinny jeans and a tight fitting shirt. The rifle would be unquestionably visible, and it just is not.


Fair enough and reasonable take.

But, the one video of him walking down the street dragging his right leg seems to indicate that, yes, it is more possible that he could have had the rifle pre-positioned. Because it seems obvious that the only reason he would be waking with a leg drag is to conceal something in his pants down his leg. No running or jumping off a building indicates he had a bum leg.
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If he's got a 30.06 hidden in those jeans and black shirt in these stair pics, guy must have a massive bunghole.

Have they released anything abt whoever he was talking to on Discord post shoot?
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MS08 said:

Keyno said:

MS08 said:

Mr.Milkshake said:

Haven't been able to keep up. Was there an explanation for no rifle in the stairwell pics, and no rifle on the rooftop run and jump video?

You cannot break that gun down in seconds, and if you could was it reassembled in the woods?

Regarding the no rifle in stairwell pic, there is footage out there prior to the act of him walking down the street with a right leg foot drag and that right leg stays straight in the stairwell picture. Believed that he hid the rifle in his pants down his right leg and you can kind of see a bulge (in the stairwell picture) in his midsection/belly button area where the buttstock of the rifle probably was.

There are separate pictures in the stairwell showing him able to bend both knees. You would not be able to do this with the barrel down the jeans. Furthermore, he is wearing skinny jeans and a tight fitting shirt. The rifle would be unquestionably visible, and it just is not.


Fair enough and reasonable take.

But, the one video of him walking down the street dragging his right leg seems to indicate that, yes, it is more possible that he could have had the rifle pre-positioned. Because it seems obvious that the only reason he would be waking with a leg drag is to conceal something in his pants down his leg. No running or jumping off a building indicates he had a bum leg.

Right and thats another problem with the story/timeline. That TMZ video allegedly showing the shooter walking toward campus with the limp was time stamped around 11:50 AM. Everyone sees the limp and assume hes got a rifle in his jeans.

However, in the "we got him" press conference, Utah Governor Spencer Cox claims Robinson arrived on campus at appx 8:30 AM wearing a maroon tshirt and light colored shorts. He arrived in a Dodge Challenger, according the surveillance video.

Lots of inconsistencies.
92AG10
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He was there earlier but returned for the actual shooting.
MS08
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Agreed on the inconsistencies and questions that still exist. Hoping they are much farther along in piecing it all together and making better sense of how it went down.
Keyno
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92AG10 said:

He was there earlier but returned for the actual shooting.

I guess the explanation for that would be he arrives early at 830 AM I guess to figure out where he was going to set up. I'm not sure he'd be able to know before the day of exactly where Kirk would be positioned. But on the morning of, the stage may be set up. And he then is I guess luckily able to find an easily accessible roof with direct line of sight. Tyler Robinson was never a student of Utah Valley, so this is extremely lucky for him.

Then I guess he leaves to position his car in that neighborhood, changes into the black shirt and jeans we see in the FBI photos and TMZ video, and walks back to campus. But this brings up another inconsistency. In the Q&A portion of the "we got him" press conference, Governor Spencer Cox claims Robinson changed clothing ON THE ROOF.

Extremely weird timeline
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Keyno said:

MS08 said:

Keyno said:

MS08 said:

Mr.Milkshake said:

Haven't been able to keep up. Was there an explanation for no rifle in the stairwell pics, and no rifle on the rooftop run and jump video?

You cannot break that gun down in seconds, and if you could was it reassembled in the woods?

Regarding the no rifle in stairwell pic, there is footage out there prior to the act of him walking down the street with a right leg foot drag and that right leg stays straight in the stairwell picture. Believed that he hid the rifle in his pants down his right leg and you can kind of see a bulge (in the stairwell picture) in his midsection/belly button area where the buttstock of the rifle probably was.

There are separate pictures in the stairwell showing him able to bend both knees. You would not be able to do this with the barrel down the jeans. Furthermore, he is wearing skinny jeans and a tight fitting shirt. The rifle would be unquestionably visible, and it just is not.


Fair enough and reasonable take.

But, the one video of him walking down the street dragging his right leg seems to indicate that, yes, it is more possible that he could have had the rifle pre-positioned. Because it seems obvious that the only reason he would be waking with a leg drag is to conceal something in his pants down his leg. No running or jumping off a building indicates he had a bum leg.

Right and thats another problem with the story/timeline. That TMZ video allegedly showing the shooter walking toward campus with the limp was time stamped around 11:50 AM. Everyone sees the limp and assume hes got a rifle in his jeans.

However, in the "we got him" press conference, Utah Governor Spencer Cox claims Robinson arrived on campus at appx 8:30 AM wearing a maroon tshirt and light colored shorts. He arrived in a Dodge Challenger, according the surveillance video.

Lots of inconsistencies.

There aren't inconsistencies in the official story...
“It was miraculous. It was almost no trick at all, he saw, to turn vice into virtue and slander into truth, impotence into abstinence, arrogance into humility, plunder into philanthropy, thievery into honor, blasphemy into wisdom, brutality into patriotism, and sadism into justice. Anybody could do it; it required no brains at all. It merely required no character.”
Joseph Heller, Catch 22
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What is the official story?
Ellis Wyatt
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Exactly. People confuse the facts that they know and the assumptions they've made with what the police know. They're released very little information. And they haven't needed to.

We watched the assassination. The assassin's family turned him in. And he is exactly who we all knew he would be, an intolerant Marxist.
 
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