It'll be interesting to see if the Brotherhood without Banners and the Red Priestess Lady are connected.
They both worship the Lord of Light.
They both worship the Lord of Light.
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Or maybe that's just to emphasize the shift in power?
Once I'd understand, but they've focused in on it a few different times now. I'd be surprised if it's not a plot point down the road.
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Once I'd understand, but they've focused in on it a few different times now. I'd be surprised if it's not a plot point down the road
Are you referring to the sharp point of it? Or something else? I know what you mean in them showing it up close multiple times, just trying to clarify what you're implying.
I'm referencing the seal (that the official letters are sealed with), not the pendant.
Just seems like they've lingered on it a few different times, which makes me think someone is going to forge a letter using the official seal.
Just seems like they've lingered on it a few different times, which makes me think someone is going to forge a letter using the official seal.
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I'm referencing the seal (that the official letters are sealed with), not the pendant.
Just seems like they've lingered on it a few different times, which makes me think someone is going to forge a letter using the official seal.
In before this scene happens on the show and free_mhayden is blasted for including spoilers.
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Once I'd understand, but they've focused in on it a few different times now. I'd be surprised if it's not a plot point down the road
I think the emphasis is more on the letters rather than the stamp. Showing Tywin seal the letters just shows that no one knows what he is writing or what is true plan is.
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I think it's just to show that he is running stuff despite cersei or tyrion wanting to be in charge
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I think it's just to show that he is running stuff despite cersei or tyrion wanting to be in charge
Agreed. Especially after what he had just said to Cersei.
really though, what's to stop cersei or tyrion from writing their own letters? fear of daddy or the knowledge no one will take them seriously? cersei is the friggin queen for crying out loud. b tch that she is.
Queen Regent. When Joff marries Marj, she will be queen.
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Ditto the above, she is only queen regent. And Tywin is pissed she can't/doesn't control Joffery better than she does.
Tywin hates his own children (or at the very least, does not respect them).
He called out Jaime ("say something clever"). He abhors Tyrion and has now told Cersei that she isn't smart enough to do what is needed. He clearly doesn't like Joffrey (he told Tyrion to bring "that boy king to heel").
Am I wrong to like Tywin? Because I kind of do!
He called out Jaime ("say something clever"). He abhors Tyrion and has now told Cersei that she isn't smart enough to do what is needed. He clearly doesn't like Joffrey (he told Tyrion to bring "that boy king to heel").
Am I wrong to like Tywin? Because I kind of do!
No. He is a very strong character, and the actor is also strong.
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Queen Regent. When Joff marries Marj, she will be queen
I know this. You don't think the Queen regent's name doesn't still carry some weight in the meantime?
Debt, I think you should learn from your last timeout.
we knew it wasn't hocus pocus when Melisandre gave birth to a shadow ninja
And Varys never said he was afraid of anything, just that he hated magic.
quote:I think her weight is just her spies, her Lannister guards (which just got reinforced after the big battle, while the city guard are pretty diminished after the battle), and she still sits on the small council (for what thats worth).
You don't think the Queen regent's name doesn't still carry some weight in the meantime?
Does she set policy? Not really. She has an opinion and sometimes she makes points her father agrees with. So whats her purpose? Look after the prince? Yah, she seems pretty occupied doing that lol.
Did I watch next weeks episode or something?
He said is was very disturbed by the voice that came out of the fire (sacrifice of his dangle).
He said is was very disturbed by the voice that came out of the fire (sacrifice of his dangle).
quote:Thats fair. I mean we saw the sorcerers of Qarth do some multiplicity magic. But to say a god, demon or whatever can speak in an audible voice is pretty cool. Its not just some intuition a prophet gets, but a voice from a burning bush...
we knew it wasn't hocus pocus when Melisandre gave birth to a shadow ninja
He mentioned the voice that spoke to the magic man.....where/when did he say anything about Lord of Light?
no he didn't say that. watch it again. he says "since that day I have hated magic and all who practice it." I just watched on HBO go for verification.
also, don't forget all the crazy ish going on inside of Drogo's tent
The Lord of Light demands a real sacrifice, as demonstrated multiple times on the show. Not just bangers and mash. "Only death can pay for life."
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quote:I guess he didnt, but who else do we know speaks through fire? Perhaps I deduced incorrectly, but he did mention Stannis's Red Priestess who likes fire, etc etc.
.where/when did he say anything about Lord of Light?
It may not be the Lord of Light that has Varys's dangle, I guess we will never know.
quote:So how do you explain Renly's death?
The Lord of Light demands a real sacrifice, as demonstrated multiple times on the show. Not just bangers and mash. "Only death can pay for life."
And we arent talking consuming armies, we are talking about message from a god.
If semen is enough for killing a king, imagine what a twig and berries is worth.
I think the key is (as far as we know) Melisandre doesn't need to burn human flesh to see things in the fires. She's also never mentioned hearing anything come from them.
The sorcerer who cut Varys isn't a priest of the same god as Melisandre, he could have been calling anything.
The sorcerer who cut Varys isn't a priest of the same god as Melisandre, he could have been calling anything.
Melisandre is a full priestess.
Some sorcerer trying to have congress with a god may need different avenues.
Some sorcerer trying to have congress with a god may need different avenues.
we don't know that it was a god. Like I said, Melisandre has always mentioned seeing in the flames. not speaking to or hearing anything in them.
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So how do you explain Renly's death?
Quite easily. Renly's death paid the price required to spawn the smoke ninja baby.
the smoke ninja was spawned prior to his death, though. did mel buy it on lay away?
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did mel buy it on lay away?
Well played, sir. Well played.
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When Stannis asked for another baby though Melisandre said it would kill Stannis... I took that to mean some part of Stannis was already sacrificed with the first smoke baby.
That's how I took it as well. Stamina gave a part of himself (sperm?) to make the smoke baby.
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