South Platte said:Really? So now we need a rule for everything?Charlie Kelley said:It was not illegal until 2019....Doug Ross said:
the astros cheated with cameras, they got caught, it is illegal per MLB, and they should pay the price
Not true. Hence the penalties for both the Red Sox and Yankees. It was always against the rules, they just put in place stricter rules regarding placement of cameras and an emphasis on enforcing it.Charlie Kelley said:It was not illegal until 2019....Doug Ross said:the astros cheated with cameras, they got caught, it is illegal per MLB, and they should pay the priceMelvinUdall said:ORAggieFan said:MelvinUdall said:ORAggieFan said:MelvinUdall said:ORAggieFan said:
Yeah, I mean the tipping of pitches in the World Series was just good hitters hitting, right?
Jesus, the tipping of pitches was the pitchers actually tipping their pitches. So Yu tipping his pitches in game 7 of the 2017 WS was the Astros having a camera in CF of the Chavez Ravine?
Y'all are idiots.
I know this and you just proved my point. I'm not saying them picking up on the pitches was wrong of them. I'm proving if an MLB hitter knows they pitch they are at a massive advantage.
No, you moved the goalpost from stealing signs to tipping pitchers.
It is the batter knowing the pitch and nearly the same time. No matter how they get it, that is an advantage.
Again, are the Astros the only one? Or do the Astros, with above average talent, succeed because of the talent and technology?
I will hang up and listen.
Baseball has long since been a sport littered with unwritten rules. But apparently those days are over.Ag_07 said:South Platte said:Really? So now we need a rule for everything?Charlie Kelley said:It was not illegal until 2019....Doug Ross said:
the astros cheated with cameras, they got caught, it is illegal per MLB, and they should pay the price
Well...Yeah. This is stupid comment/argument
As technology improves and as the game adapts yes the rules need to be amended.
Just like they were with PEDs, mound visits, warmup time, etc etc.
Rules changing is nothing new to any sport.
This sums it up.Ag_07 said:
Wait...So you want this to be an unwritten rule?
Fine by me since the league doesn't hand out punishment for breaking those.
Carry on!!
Ha, you really want to tie the Astros and Lyle Alzado together? That deserves an asterisk.Bregxit said:You know what wasn't against the rules per se until 1982 in the NFL? Ripping someone's helmet off and hitting them with it. Lyle Alzado did it and just got a 15 yard UC penalty. Then the "Lyle Alzado rule" was created and it became an auto-ejection plus suspension.South Platte said:Really? So now we need a rule for everything?Charlie Kelley said:It was not illegal until 2019....Doug Ross said:
the astros cheated with cameras, they got caught, it is illegal per MLB, and they should pay the price
Yes, you must have rules for anything you want to enforce. Especially in sports leagues with owner groups and player unions.
I was about to post about it as well... Under the impression the guy was really happy with how "clever" he is and plans on beating the comment like a dead horse.03_Aggie said:
Does this asterisk schtick actually work on people? Has to be one of the dumbest points that gets repeatedly used.
And many batters prefer they do for their own safety, especially in cold weather.Charlie Kelley said:
Wah wah wah. He did the same **** this year on the a's. Newsflash, pitchers use pine tar.
03_Aggie said:
Does this asterisk schtick actually work on people? Has to be one of the dumbest points that gets repeatedly used.
Oh, yeah.Danny Vermin said:03_Aggie said:
Does this asterisk schtick actually work on people? Has to be one of the dumbest points that gets repeatedly used.
Really? So you are calling every aggie dumb ? You must have forgot that " asterisk " was the the battle cry here when VYs knee was touching on that flip to Selvin Young in the National Championship game.
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"It just goes to the story, for 2017, we were asked to electronically cheat in the playoffs," one scout said
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"One thing in specific we are looking for is picking up signs coming out of the dugout," the email's sender wrote in a message from August of 2017. "What we are looking for is how much we can see, how we would log things, if we need cameras/binoculars, etc. So go to game, see what you can (or can't) do and report back your findings."
Proposition Joe said:Quote:
"One thing in specific we are looking for is picking up signs coming out of the dugout," the email's sender wrote in a message from August of 2017. "What we are looking for is how much we can see, how we would log things, if we need cameras/binoculars, etc. So go to game, see what you can (or can't) do and report back your findings."
Fellas, this is just butthurt Rangers fans, nothing to see here.
03_Aggie said:Proposition Joe said:Quote:
"One thing in specific we are looking for is picking up signs coming out of the dugout," the email's sender wrote in a message from August of 2017. "What we are looking for is how much we can see, how we would log things, if we need cameras/binoculars, etc. So go to game, see what you can (or can't) do and report back your findings."
Fellas, this is just butthurt Rangers fans, nothing to see here.
So now they were doing it all of 2017 but they needed scouts to figure out how to steal signs for the playoffs? Seems like they would already have the process down by then.
Or are we shifting from stealing signs all season to trying to steal signs just when the playoffs came?
03_Aggie said:
So sequences are only used in the playoffs? They stick to "easy signs" during the regular season? I mean I suspect any team that feels like someone is stealing signs will switch to a sequence no matter what point in the season the game is taking place.
Or were they asking scouts to spread out and scout potential playoff opponents to try and record their signals? If that's the case, what exactly is against the rules in that instance?
There's definitely someone dumb here but it probably isn't who you think. These two writers are so hard up to break some huge story they aren't stopping to think how some of their "evidence" just discredits some of their other claims. But they do because, as evidenced here, some people just eat it up.
TexasRebel said:
What part is cheating?
Y'all keep using that word when you don't know what it means.
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"It just goes to the story, for 2017, we were asked to electronically cheat in the playoffs," one scout said
ontheedge said:
Ignorant thread. Original Texas team won the WS in 2017, get over it.
