Fore Left! said:

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Agree about how his game should age (or not age). Unlike Jordan, Lebron, Kobe, etc, he's also a guy I look at and think "why can't more guys do this or at least some % of it?" He's not a particularly gifted outside shooter. Not explosive. But what he does have is solid handles for a bigger dude, and most importantly, he knows how to position his body relative to the defender to then generate opportunities (for himself and others). But that's where I think "why can't more guys figure that out and how is he so other worldly at it?" He puts these guys on his hip and then plays them like a fiddle

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Infection_Ag11 said:

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zgolfz85 said:

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Infection_Ag11 said:

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aggiedadofpanda said:

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Infection_Ag11 said:

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When his shot is falling Luka is akin to peak Harden offensively, insanely efficient and essentially unguardable. His step back jumper is unstoppable if have any intention of keeping him in front of you. If you don't, he'll just go right by you. Nobody in the NBA has the height/length/agility combo to defend all of that without giving something up.

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Luka is much more efficient and progressive on offense than Harden. He's 10x the player that Harden is. Sorry for all you long time Rockets fans. I now understand how the Spurs fans felt about Tim Duncan all these years - everyone that wasn't a Spurs fan hated him, Spurs fans loved him. Just too good.

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At his peak in Houston Harden was the most efficient scorer in the history of basketball, statistically speaking. He choked in big moments but he was the benchmark for efficient offensive output.

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nah sorry, you're wrong per the usual. james was a better shooter, but had nowhere near the driving skills or in lane trickeration skills luka has. also f james harden. even rockets fans should have deleted any happiness he brought you guys by now. maybe the biggest dickbag in the history of the association

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I mean, it's not an opinion. It's a statistical fact. His 2018-2019 season was the most efficient single season offensive showing in the history of the sport.

https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/h/hardeja01.html

He was the only player in league history to average 35/7 for a season, had the fewest shots per game of any player to ever average 35 or more points in a season and had (by a decent margin) the highest adjusted offensive efficiency rating in NBA history. For reference, in the one season MJ averaged over 35 PPG he needed over 3 more shots per game to do it.

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Infection_Ag11 said:

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zgolfz85 said:

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Infection_Ag11 said:

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aggiedadofpanda said:

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Infection_Ag11 said:

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When his shot is falling Luka is akin to peak Harden offensively, insanely efficient and essentially unguardable. His step back jumper is unstoppable if have any intention of keeping him in front of you. If you don't, he'll just go right by you. Nobody in the NBA has the height/length/agility combo to defend all of that without giving something up.

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Luka is much more efficient and progressive on offense than Harden. He's 10x the player that Harden is. Sorry for all you long time Rockets fans. I now understand how the Spurs fans felt about Tim Duncan all these years - everyone that wasn't a Spurs fan hated him, Spurs fans loved him. Just too good.

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At his peak in Houston Harden was the most efficient scorer in the history of basketball, statistically speaking. He choked in big moments but he was the benchmark for efficient offensive output.

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nah sorry, you're wrong per the usual. james was a better shooter, but had nowhere near the driving skills or in lane trickeration skills luka has. also f james harden. even rockets fans should have deleted any happiness he brought you guys by now. maybe the biggest dickbag in the history of the association

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I mean, it's not an opinion. It's a statistical fact. His 2018-2019 season was the most efficient single season offensive showing in the history of the sport.

https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/h/hardeja01.html

He was the only player in league history to average 35/7 for a season, had the fewest shots per game of any player to ever average 35 or more points in a season and had (by a decent margin) the highest adjusted offensive efficiency rating in NBA history. For reference, in the one season MJ averaged over 35 PPG he needed over 3 more shots per game to do it.

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500,000ags said:

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Part of the issue is that D'Antoni's offense can make the primary ball handler look like a world beater statistically when he really isn't. So when the playoffs come and good opponents game plan for a 7 game series, you get a real glimpse of that player's game.

So when Luka hits game 6 and 7 and he elevates, D'Antoni's ball handler hits game 6 and 7 and can actually look worse.

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M.C. Swag said:

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Infection_Ag11 said:

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When his shot is falling Luka is akin to peak Harden offensively, insanely efficient and essentially unguardable. His step back jumper is unstoppable if have any intention of keeping him in front of you. If you don't, he'll just go right by you. Nobody in the NBA has the height/length/agility combo to defend all of that without giving something up.

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And his strength. "Gods, he's strong" *Robert Baratheon voice* Even if you have the footspeed and length to match Luka; that's only half the battle. He'll bully tf out of you if you don't have the force to match.

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M.C. Swag said:

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Yea the solution is simply dont let him foul bait you. Harden's 'efficiency' is lauded because he mostly grifted TWELVE free throws per game. Stat nerds love to look at his 'low FG attempts' without contextualizing the abject disgusting method he used to achieve that. Fortunately for Luka, his game isn't predicated on freebies and is why his production in the playoffs don't decline.

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M.C. Swag said:

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Yea the solution is simply dont let him foul bait you. Harden's 'efficiency' is lauded because he mostly grifted TWELVE free throws per game. Stat nerds love to look at his 'low FG attempts' without contextualizing the abject disgusting method he used to achieve that. Fortunately for Luka, his game isn't predicated on freebies and is why his production in the playoffs don't decline.

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jograki said:

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Has anyone done the watch parties at AAC? Figured it might be fun for one of the next two games

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PatAg said:

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One thing we have seen as this year has gone by, and even more so in this playoffs, is Luka is having less of those sequences of possessions where he just completely bogs the game down.

When we get into our offense and movement early, it just makes the rest of the possession so much more effective. Even if it ends with Luka in a mismatch and slowing it down, we are so much more effective when we make them defend early and often. It looks so good when its clicking.

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M.C. Swag said:

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Yea the solution is simply dont let him foul bait you. Harden's 'efficiency' is lauded because he mostly grifted TWELVE free throws per game. Stat nerds love to look at his 'low FG attempts' without contextualizing the abject disgusting method he used to achieve that. Fortunately for Luka, his game isn't predicated on freebies and is why his production in the playoffs don't decline.

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I'LL SAY IT AGAIN: JIMMY BUTLER IS THE BEST PLAYER LEFT IN THE PLAYOFFS ... AND HE WAS EASILY THE BEST PLAYER ON THE FLOOR TONIGHT.

— Skip Bayless (@RealSkipBayless) May 18, 2022