BlackGold said:

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I'll continue to distrust the people on record taking money from foreign lobbies. You should too.

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ReloadAg said:

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why don't they just buy one from Pakistan? T

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LOL.
Iran is Shia.
Pakistan is Sunni.

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According to Mark Thiessen that doesn't matter and says Iran help plan 9/11 with Al-Quaeda

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To think Iran was not supporting ongoing terrorist activity prior to 09/11 would be utterly naive. Though direct material support and planning specific to the attacks may not have occurred, certainly Iran and their proxy support of terror groups would have been "supportive" and did help facilitate travel for terrorists.

Mark Thiessen is a speech writer and political commentator. He is not an intelligent asset or strategist.

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Keyno said:

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TRM said:

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Just lock this thread already.

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"There's too many posters vocally against this war! SHUT IT DOWN!"

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Queso1 said:

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The pro war people will (1) call this a lie and utter "scooby Jew" or whatever to marginalize anyone that dare question the acts of the Israeli state or (2) celebrate it as most of them seem to be mega churches evangelicals.

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flown-the-coop said:

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Republicans speechwriter says things Trump agreed with and Trump likes it on social media!

Big time breaking news and shift in policy! Or not.

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Yukon Cornelius said:

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So it's a blessing young boys will be torn apart and videoed and those videos sent to their families? Y'all have lost the plot.

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Haleyscomet50 said:

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It's a insult to everyone when people say Iran was going to nuke us. They weren't..it's a insult to say Iran was going to hit us with ballistic missiles they weren't. Sure they might have hit Israel and if you want to defend them great just say it.

I get it but as American taxpayers we pay billions a year to Israel. They should never control or dictate what we do. How do we say don't hit the gas fields and they do? How do we pause things and they bomb harder? Even the start of the war how do they get to tell us when it's going to start?

Does it not bother my fellow American taxpayers that we are the strongest country in the world and someone else is telling us what to do. A military funded by us isn't listening to our President I voted for Trump not Bibi. This is like the employees telling the bosses what to do. How and why are we in this situation? Have we ever entered a war where someone else was in charged?

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Every single thing you posted is just a wild guess over what is going on behind the scenes. You have no idea if any of this is true. I would suggest taking a step back and evaluating where these perspectives are coming from - and if it's from Tucker, Fuentes, etc remind yourself that they are being paid to say it.

No doubt Trump is impulsive, says stupid things off the cuff, and maybe he thought this would go better initially. Or maybe it's only been 2 months and no one outside of the military leadership has any clue what's going on. I'll continue to trust that our professional military leadership (reminder that it's far and away the greatest military in the history of the world) knows what they are doing. Despite what paid schills on the internet say.

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flown-the-coop said:

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Keyno said:

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Just lock this thread already.

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"There's too many posters vocally against this war! SHUT IT DOWN!"

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If you kids could make a coherent argument, this thread would be beneficial. Page after page of BiBi is leading Trump around by the perineum piercing is jot really discussing anything.

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Dan Scott said:

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flown-the-coop said:

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Dan Scott said:

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bobbranco said:

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ReloadAg said:

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why don't they just buy one from Pakistan? T

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LOL.
Iran is Shia.
Pakistan is Sunni.

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According to Mark Thiessen that doesn't matter and says Iran help plan 9/11 with Al-Quaeda

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To think Iran was not supporting ongoing terrorist activity prior to 09/11 would be utterly naive. Though direct material support and planning specific to the attacks may not have occurred, certainly Iran and their proxy support of terror groups would have been "supportive" and did help facilitate travel for terrorists.

Mark Thiessen is a speech writer and political commentator. He is not an intelligent asset or strategist.

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President Trump promoted the mark Thiessen interview with Mark Levin last night where he linked Iran to 9/11. President Trump clearly values his opinion and wants us to listen to him.

"Watch Mark Levin interview of Brilliant Marc Thiessen tonight at 8:00 P.M., on FoxNews. Will discuss the importance of hitting Iran, HARD!!! President DJT"

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BlackGold said:

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Just lock this thread already.

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Id argue what is happening on this thread is by definition, political fallout.

Lots of trolling by the war defenders crowd though.

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BlackGold said:

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Keyno said:

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Just lock this thread already.

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"There's too many posters vocally against this war! SHUT IT DOWN!"

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If you kids could make a coherent argument, this thread would be beneficial. Page after page of BiBi is leading Trump around by the perineum piercing is jot really discussing anything.

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Scooby Jew is a coherent argument though? Ha

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Trolling is when you use baseless wild theories to promote an alternate reality in order to obfuscate the truth.

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It's a insult to everyone when people say Iran was going to nuke us. They weren't..it's a insult to say Iran was going to hit us with ballistic missiles they weren't. Sure they might have hit Israel and if you want to defend them great just say it.

I get it but as American taxpayers we pay billions a year to Israel. They should never control or dictate what we do. How do we say don't hit the gas fields and they do? How do we pause things and they bomb harder? Even the start of the war how do they get to tell us when it's going to start?

Does it not bother my fellow American taxpayers that we are the strongest country in the world and someone else is telling us what to do. A military funded by us isn't listening to our President I voted for Trump not Bibi. This is like the employees telling the bosses what to do. How and why are we in this situation? Have we ever entered a war where someone else was in charged?

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Every single thing you posted is just a wild guess over what is going on behind the scenes. You have no idea if any of this is true. I would suggest taking a step back and evaluating where these perspectives are coming from - and if it's from Tucker, Fuentes, etc remind yourself that they are being paid to say it.

No doubt Trump is impulsive, says stupid things off the cuff, and maybe he thought this would go better initially. Or maybe it's only been 2 months and no one outside of the military leadership has any clue what's going on. I'll continue to trust that our professional military leadership (reminder that it's far and away the greatest military in the history of the world) knows what they are doing. Despite what paid schills on the internet say.

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Tucker has repeatedly said over and over and over he's not getting paid and said he's open to having his finances looked at - I'm sure they already have been by CIA and no FARA charges to date. You know who is getting paid by a foreign country though? Ted Cruz, Lindsay Graham, Laura Loomer, Ben Shapiro, all the politicians getting paid by AIPAC which is just about all of them. Trump got paid by Qatar and Saudi, along with Israel, but I don't see you brining any of that up. You'll parrot smears and lies from people on record getting paid by foreign counties or their agents about a guy allegedly getting paid by a foreign country. The irony of your stupidity isn't lost on many of us.

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Tucker is basically a walking billboard for Qatar at this point, even bragging about how he's about buy a house there. If you actually believe he's just doing this out of the goodness of his heart I have no idea what to tell you.

Either way, he, Fuentes and now Kent (what a miraculous run of podcasts he had scheduled immediately after his resignation) are so blatantly just fishing for attention and eyeballs from the anti Israel far right overly online minority that they're clearly monetizing that. Again, you can choose to trust a bunch of media attention *****s who have no access to what's going on behind the scenes, or you can trust our military leadership. Your choice.

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Queso1 said:

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All I see from you is personal attacks and mockery. You haven't made a coherent argument on anything, just a parroting of Mark Levin and the administration.

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OldArmy71 said:

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I would imagine that if Iran's leadership believes it is going to be overthrown, it will destroy the oil and gas and desalination infrastructure throughout the ME.

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flown-the-coop said:

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All I see from you is personal attacks and mockery. You haven't made a coherent argument on anything, just a parroting of Mark Levin and the administration.

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What personal attacks? I am going to point out ludicrous posting of false information. I don't know your motives for such, but it's well in bounds to attack the content of the post when the posts are filled with such fantasy and delusion.

I rarely watch Levin. Yes, he is Jewish first than American. I don't think he has ever been shy on that.

But I honestly could not tell you what he thinks on Iran cause i dont tune in to him during times like these because i understand his bias.

You are going to have to try again with your feeble, open-palm swipes as they simply are not landing.

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sts7049 said:

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what I posted about the strait was fact. you made no attempt to explain why it wasn't

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Not to mention we also use the E-2D which does almost the same thing and we have about 70 or so in the Navy.

Obviously losing military equipment isn’t ideal but the sensationalizing here because of their TDS is truly amazing.

— @TrickyDickPol (@trickydickpol) March 29, 2026

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I'm embarrassed by all the handwringing I see. For crying out loud, we're in a military conflict with a dangerous foe that has been actively targeting Americans for decades and trying to get a nuclear bomb. Their crazy response to this military engagement -- attacking many other countries who aren't involved -- and their economic centers at that -- just shows how deranged they are.

We don't have to invade Iran. We just have to militarily destroy their ability to harm us and others. They are fighting back, with limited success. No surprise, it's a war. Just need to sack up, carry on, and get the job done.

Yeah, this won't be good for R's in the midterms if gas price is high and inflation takes off, but some things are more important than winning an election. This is one of them.

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As long as they control the Strait of Hormuz, they arguably have won the war

As it stands now, I think the progression is likely inevitable and a bigger disaster.

Iran has all the leverage and the only way to unwind that leverage is US boots on the ground - which may or may not work (well?) in the era of drone warfare.

If we escalate further more and more key infrastructure across the Middle East will be smashed to pieces.

So it's hard to be optimistic.

Winning at this point is American blood to return to February 27th.

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Like I said, I'm embarrassed with the handwringing.

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You're welcome to address my comment with discussion of how I'm wrong, or we can just stick with magical thinking. How will we re-open the strait of Trump?

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Sit back, take a chill pill, and watch.

Also, the rest of the world needs the Strait opened much more than we do because we are oil independent, thanks to years of Republican leadership and no thanks to the Democrats. They will help out because they need it worse than we do. It will come together despite your desire to wish it into a disaster for the ages.

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I've worked in oil and gas my entire career. Politicians have had less than nothing to do with American oil and gas. Republicans have definitely offered lip service to energy independence, but politicians have had very little to do with it in reality. The oil industry's growth in America has almost entirely been driven by the market. Oil production increased at its highest rate under Obama. The oil export ban - eliminated under Obama. Oil production since Trump 2, almost entirely flat. The oil industry definitely did better under Biden because Russia invaded Ukraine. Turns out political speak doesn't pay the bills. But that's besides the point. It's a global commodity. It's not like we get to close the gates and watch the world burn (in particular the entire Middle East) and pretend that we are unaffected by the consequences. That's incredibly naive.

Why would Iran be incentivized to reopen the strait they are now charging $2MM per vessel to when select countries pay to sail through? Is this an acceptable conclusion, Iran charging a 2MM fee per ship that sailed through? Who has actually has leverage over Iran? Maybe China? Is China better off watching us continue down this path or push Iran to cave? China has some of the largest strategic petroleum reserves in the world and the largest EV manufacturing country in the world. I suspect they'd rather see high oil prices than to save us from the disaster we created.

I don't wish this was a disaster. I'm disgusted that we made it a disaster.

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sts7049 said:

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what I posted about the strait was fact. you made no attempt to explain why it wasn't

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The ships were supposedly Pakistani flagged and transited the strait of Hormuz in the days prior to March 26.

Ships were suspected to be part of Irans fleet of sanction evading ships known to carry sanctioned oil undetected through the strait, making the transits hard if not impossible to verify their transit through 3rd party sources.

Iran has not and will not enjoy sovereign control of the waterway. Any conception such is a nonstarter regarding the ending of hostilities with Iran.

Any fantasy you may have of Iran running the strait as if it were the Panama Canal are just that. Fantasy.

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— Tucker Carlson Network (@TCNetwork) March 27, 2026

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ReloadAg said:

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I voted for Trump 3 times and am beyond pissed about this war. It did not need to happen and we will end up far weaker as a result. I pray he has enough sense not to send in ground troops.

Sorry, I hate to say this, but I'm out. The Republicans and Trump deserve every ounce of electoral pain coming their way in November. F them all.

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"Youre out". Where exactly are you going?

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sts7049 said:

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state yours then. and I'll do the same

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Haleyscomet50 said:

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It's a insult to everyone when people say Iran was going to nuke us. They weren't..it's a insult to say Iran was going to hit us with ballistic missiles they weren't. Sure they might have hit Israel and if you want to defend them great just say it.

I get it but as American taxpayers we pay billions a year to Israel. They should never control or dictate what we do. How do we say don't hit the gas fields and they do? How do we pause things and they bomb harder? Even the start of the war how do they get to tell us when it's going to start?

Does it not bother my fellow American taxpayers that we are the strongest country in the world and someone else is telling us what to do. A military funded by us isn't listening to our President I voted for Trump not Bibi. This is like the employees telling the bosses what to do. How and why are we in this situation? Have we ever entered a war where someone else was in charged?

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