Political fallout and arguments regarding the US-Israeli action against Iran 022824

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ReloadAg said:

I voted for Trump 3 times and am beyond pissed about this war. It did not need to happen and we will end up far weaker as a result. I pray he has enough sense not to send in ground troops.

Sorry, I hate to say this, but I'm out. The Republicans and Trump deserve every ounce of electoral pain coming their way in November. F them all.


"Youre out". Where exactly are you going?
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Building up but yeah feels like they will be at least at Kharg or some of the other islands by Middle to end of April. Should be interesting to see the market and populaces reaction. I have a feeling it's gonna to be a bloodbath.
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Off the Trump train. Certainly not going to vote in November. All we get are more wars and more debt, regardless of Team Red or Team Blue is in charge.
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It's a insult to everyone when people say Iran was going to nuke us. They weren't..it's a insult to say Iran was going to hit us with ballistic missiles they weren't. Sure they might have hit Israel and if you want to defend them great just say it.

I get it but as American taxpayers we pay billions a year to Israel. They should never control or dictate what we do. How do we say don't hit the gas fields and they do? How do we pause things and they bomb harder? Even the start of the war how do they get to tell us when it's going to start?

Does it not bother my fellow American taxpayers that we are the strongest country in the world and someone else is telling us what to do. A military funded by us isn't listening to our President I voted for Trump not Bibi. This is like the employees telling the bosses what to do. How and why are we in this situation? Have we ever entered a war where someone else was in charged?
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ReloadAg said:

Off the Trump train. Certainly not going to vote in November. All we get are more wars and more debt, regardless of Team Red or Team Blue is in charge.


Yes, stop voting. We're not voting our way out of the Big Government Uniparty.
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Haleyscomet50 said:

Does it not bother my fellow American taxpayers that we are the strongest country in the world and someone else is telling us what to do. A military funded by us isn't listening to our President I voted for Trump not Bibi. This is like the employees telling the bosses what to do. How and why are we in this situation? Have we ever entered a war where someone else was in charged?

It would, if it were true. Definitely.

There was a thread, several months ago, lamenting the extreme control....via financial support... that "the Joos" had over Trump/U.S. and it was pointed out how little, compared to other political entities, "the Joos" actually gave in terms of financing/support.

I don't think Iran was necessary, as they're a pissant ***** of a country with no serious ability to inflict harm very far outside of their borders. I also don't think "the Joos" had a thing to do with it. I think it's typical Trump stream-of-consciousness silliness in action. But, that being said, I'd be fine with glassing the entire place, once and for all.
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Yukon Cornelius said:

This is insanely revisionist history to cope and justify something that shouldn't have happened. Alqeda was going to hold Iraq's oil hostage from Afghanistan because of 911 so we had to invade and kill a million Iraqis? You're wrong. Your position is wrong and you're coming up with absolute nonsense to justify it.

And ya when wives start getting sent Hd video of their husbands last minute of life with their body parts laying around them gasping for air it's going to mess a lot of people up. We aren't prepared mentally for the absolute horror that is drone warfare.


You someone think al-qaeda was only in the hills of Afghanistan. Now that is revisionist history. ISIS was born of osama's seeds.

If you look at my posts back then you will find my same reasoning. It was always about the oil. They told us it was wmds but it was about keeping the oil flowing. I'm pretty sure I had a post that discussed what would happen if they attacked the oil infrastructure and how it could lead to a lot of bad outcomes outside the war zone. I also said the war should have been against Iran at the time, but we did not have the resources in place to fight that war.

Now any terror group or Iran can send drones and missiles from hundreds of miles away to attack that same infrastructure. The threat is more real than back then.

And the bigger mess up will be the airliner getting hit as its wheels leave the runway and the recording of a hundreds of passengers dying on their way to Dallas or Chicago. That is what we are hoping to avoid as long as possible.

But let's do it your way, capitulate to avoid some soldiers deaths so that Iran can sell shahed drones to the cartels or build navel drones in mass to give to the houthis, so that the strait, the world's oil infrastructure, and the world in general will be in more danger.
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All captured with HD cameras. I'm telling you the American population is not ready for that kind of war over Iran.


Are they ready for a war where Tel Aviv is vaporized. Probably New York City as well?
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What a bunch of nonsense. Iran wasn't capable of that. If they really wanted a nuke, why don't they just buy one from Pakistan? They had a religious Fatwa in place forbidding them from pursuing nukes for the last 20 years. I'm sure they'll fully commit to getting one now though. Also, I thought they told us we destroyed all of the nuclear facilities in Midnight Hammer last summer.
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Haleyscomet50 said:

It's a insult to everyone when people say Iran was going to nuke us. They weren't..it's a insult to say Iran was going to hit us with ballistic missiles they weren't. Sure they might have hit Israel and if you want to defend them great just say it.

I get it but as American taxpayers we pay billions a year to Israel. They should never control or dictate what we do. How do we say don't hit the gas fields and they do? How do we pause things and they bomb harder? Even the start of the war how do they get to tell us when it's going to start?

Does it not bother my fellow American taxpayers that we are the strongest country in the world and someone else is telling us what to do. A military funded by us isn't listening to our President I voted for Trump not Bibi. This is like the employees telling the bosses what to do. How and why are we in this situation? Have we ever entered a war where someone else was in charged?


Every single thing you posted is just a wild guess over what is going on behind the scenes. You have no idea if any of this is true. I would suggest taking a step back and evaluating where these perspectives are coming from - and if it's from Tucker, Fuentes, etc remind yourself that they are being paid to say it.

No doubt Trump is impulsive, says stupid things off the cuff, and maybe he thought this would go better initially. Or maybe it's only been 2 months and no one outside of the military leadership has any clue what's going on. I'll continue to trust that our professional military leadership (reminder that it's far and away the greatest military in the history of the world) knows what they are doing. Despite what paid schills on the internet say.
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More ammo for Tucker

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I would imagine that if Iran's leadership believes it is going to be overthrown, it will destroy the oil and gas and desalination infrastructure throughout the ME.
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Who knew all we needed to ensure Iran never nukes us is to trust in the "fatwa" the Ayatollah Khomeini once declared, ignoring the fact he is the deified supreme leader of a country that was founded upon the concept of death to America, death to Israel.

Dismiss anything Trump says as he is a BiBi Putin puppet!!!

Believe the jihadist Supreme Leader of Iran when he shouts for death to you he promises to never use a nuke even if he had one.

Thats some peak ****ing delusion right there.
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OldArmy71 said:

I would imagine that if Iran's leadership believes it is going to be overthrown, it will destroy the oil and gas and desalination infrastructure throughout the ME.

That had some potential 4 weeks ago. I do not believe they have the capability much less will to do such things.
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The pro war people will (1) call this a lie and utter "scooby Jew" or whatever to marginalize anyone that dare question the acts of the Israeli state or (2) celebrate it as most of them seem to be mega churches evangelicals.
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J. Walter Weatherman said:

Haleyscomet50 said:

It's a insult to everyone when people say Iran was going to nuke us. They weren't..it's a insult to say Iran was going to hit us with ballistic missiles they weren't. Sure they might have hit Israel and if you want to defend them great just say it.

I get it but as American taxpayers we pay billions a year to Israel. They should never control or dictate what we do. How do we say don't hit the gas fields and they do? How do we pause things and they bomb harder? Even the start of the war how do they get to tell us when it's going to start?

Does it not bother my fellow American taxpayers that we are the strongest country in the world and someone else is telling us what to do. A military funded by us isn't listening to our President I voted for Trump not Bibi. This is like the employees telling the bosses what to do. How and why are we in this situation? Have we ever entered a war where someone else was in charged?


Every single thing you posted is just a wild guess over what is going on behind the scenes. You have no idea if any of this is true. I would suggest taking a step back and evaluating where these perspectives are coming from - and if it's from Tucker, Fuentes, etc remind yourself that they are being paid to say it.

No doubt Trump is impulsive, says stupid things off the cuff, and maybe he thought this would go better initially. Or maybe it's only been 2 months and no one outside of the military leadership has any clue what's going on. I'll continue to trust that our professional military leadership (reminder that it's far and away the greatest military in the history of the world) knows what they are doing. Despite what paid schills on the internet say.



Tucker has repeatedly said over and over and over he's not getting paid and said he's open to having his finances looked at - I'm sure they already have been by CIA and no FARA charges to date. You know who is getting paid by a foreign country though? Ted Cruz, Lindsay Graham, Laura Loomer, Ben Shapiro, all the politicians getting paid by AIPAC which is just about all of them. Trump got paid by Qatar and Saudi, along with Israel, but I don't see you brining any of that up. You'll parrot smears and lies from people on record getting paid by foreign counties or their agents about a guy allegedly getting paid by a foreign country. The irony of your stupidity isn't lost on many of us.
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Has Cardinal Pizzaballa informed Lord Pizza the Hutt of these atrocities?

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Yes. They love to speak in definite terms that Tucker is being paid, all the while ignoring the real $$$ that comes to Cruz and Graham.
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All you have left is mockery.
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Queso1 said:

Yes. They love to speak in definite terms that Tucker is being paid, all the while ignoring the real $$$ that comes to Cruz and Graham.

Believe Tucker! believe Candace! believe Alex Jones!
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Queso1 said:

All you have left is mockery.

Yes because you and the others are dearth of facts.
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BlackGold said:

J. Walter Weatherman said:

Haleyscomet50 said:

It's a insult to everyone when people say Iran was going to nuke us. They weren't..it's a insult to say Iran was going to hit us with ballistic missiles they weren't. Sure they might have hit Israel and if you want to defend them great just say it.

I get it but as American taxpayers we pay billions a year to Israel. They should never control or dictate what we do. How do we say don't hit the gas fields and they do? How do we pause things and they bomb harder? Even the start of the war how do they get to tell us when it's going to start?

Does it not bother my fellow American taxpayers that we are the strongest country in the world and someone else is telling us what to do. A military funded by us isn't listening to our President I voted for Trump not Bibi. This is like the employees telling the bosses what to do. How and why are we in this situation? Have we ever entered a war where someone else was in charged?


Every single thing you posted is just a wild guess over what is going on behind the scenes. You have no idea if any of this is true. I would suggest taking a step back and evaluating where these perspectives are coming from - and if it's from Tucker, Fuentes, etc remind yourself that they are being paid to say it.

No doubt Trump is impulsive, says stupid things off the cuff, and maybe he thought this would go better initially. Or maybe it's only been 2 months and no one outside of the military leadership has any clue what's going on. I'll continue to trust that our professional military leadership (reminder that it's far and away the greatest military in the history of the world) knows what they are doing. Despite what paid schills on the internet say.



Tucker has repeatedly said over and over and over he's not getting paid and said he's open to having his finances looked at - I'm sure they already have been by CIA and no FARA charges to date. You know who is getting paid by a foreign country though? Ted Cruz, Lindsay Graham, Laura Loomer, Ben Shapiro, all the politicians getting paid by AIPAC which is just about all of them. Trump got paid by Qatar and Saudi, along with Israel, but I don't see you brining any of that up. You'll parrot smears and lies from people on record getting paid by foreign counties or their agents about a guy allegedly getting paid by a foreign country. The irony of your stupidity isn't lost on many of us.



Well yeah, but Trump is God.
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flown-the-coop said:

Queso1 said:

Yes. They love to speak in definite terms that Tucker is being paid, all the while ignoring the real $$$ that comes to Cruz and Graham.

Believe Tucker! believe Candace! believe Alex Jones!


What a bizarre world we live in. We somehow listen to , and agree with, both Joe Scarborough and Tucker! It's quite a thing: in the morning I listen to Morning Joe ranting on his leftist principles and then in the evening I round it out with Tucker Carlson. Do you even consider what you are posting before doing so, or are you just lashing out?
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BigRobSA said:

Haleyscomet50 said:

Does it not bother my fellow American taxpayers that we are the strongest country in the world and someone else is telling us what to do. A military funded by us isn't listening to our President I voted for Trump not Bibi. This is like the employees telling the bosses what to do. How and why are we in this situation? Have we ever entered a war where someone else was in charged?

It would, if it were true. Definitely.

There was a thread, several months ago, lamenting the extreme control....via financial support... that "the Joos" had over Trump/U.S. and it was pointed out how little, compared to other political entities, "the Joos" actually gave in terms of financing/support.

I don't think Iran was necessary, as they're a pissant ***** of a country with no serious ability to inflict harm very far outside of their borders. I also don't think "the Joos" had a thing to do with it. I think it's typical Trump stream-of-consciousness silliness in action. But, that being said, I'd be fine with glassing the entire place, once and for all.

I would too under the right circumstances and if we were solo or with a more trusted coalition that deferred to us. Trump for all his lies can be pretty honest at times. Maybe most honest politician we have ever had. I know it's like the tallest midget but when Trump said Addledson gave him a lot a money and all she wants to talk about is Israel it can make people wonder.
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BlackGold said:

J. Walter Weatherman said:

Haleyscomet50 said:

It's a insult to everyone when people say Iran was going to nuke us. They weren't..it's a insult to say Iran was going to hit us with ballistic missiles they weren't. Sure they might have hit Israel and if you want to defend them great just say it.

I get it but as American taxpayers we pay billions a year to Israel. They should never control or dictate what we do. How do we say don't hit the gas fields and they do? How do we pause things and they bomb harder? Even the start of the war how do they get to tell us when it's going to start?

Does it not bother my fellow American taxpayers that we are the strongest country in the world and someone else is telling us what to do. A military funded by us isn't listening to our President I voted for Trump not Bibi. This is like the employees telling the bosses what to do. How and why are we in this situation? Have we ever entered a war where someone else was in charged?


Every single thing you posted is just a wild guess over what is going on behind the scenes. You have no idea if any of this is true. I would suggest taking a step back and evaluating where these perspectives are coming from - and if it's from Tucker, Fuentes, etc remind yourself that they are being paid to say it.

No doubt Trump is impulsive, says stupid things off the cuff, and maybe he thought this would go better initially. Or maybe it's only been 2 months and no one outside of the military leadership has any clue what's going on. I'll continue to trust that our professional military leadership (reminder that it's far and away the greatest military in the history of the world) knows what they are doing. Despite what paid schills on the internet say.



Tucker has repeatedly said over and over and over he's not getting paid and said he's open to having his finances looked at - I'm sure they already have been by CIA and no FARA charges to date. You know who is getting paid by a foreign country though? Ted Cruz, Lindsay Graham, Laura Loomer, Ben Shapiro, all the politicians getting paid by AIPAC which is just about all of them. Trump got paid by Qatar and Saudi, along with Israel, but I don't see you brining any of that up. You'll parrot smears and lies from people on record getting paid by foreign counties or their agents about a guy allegedly getting paid by a foreign country. The irony of your stupidity isn't lost on many of us.


Tucker is basically a walking billboard for Qatar at this point, even bragging about how he's about buy a house there. If you actually believe he's just doing this out of the goodness of his heart I have no idea what to tell you.

Either way, he, Fuentes and now Kent (what a miraculous run of podcasts he had scheduled immediately after his resignation) are so blatantly just fishing for attention and eyeballs from the anti Israel far right overly online minority that they're clearly monetizing that. Again, you can choose to trust a bunch of media attention *****s who have no access to what's going on behind the scenes, or you can trust our military leadership. Your choice.
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Queso1 said:

flown-the-coop said:

Queso1 said:

Yes. They love to speak in definite terms that Tucker is being paid, all the while ignoring the real $$$ that comes to Cruz and Graham.

Believe Tucker! believe Candace! believe Alex Jones!


What a bizarre world we live in. We somehow listen to , and agree with, both Joe Scarborough and Tucker! It's quite a thing: in the morning I listen to Morning Joe ranting on his leftist principles and then in the evening I round it out with Tucker Carlson. Do you even consider what you are posting before doing so, or are you just lashing out?

Makes sense if that is your daily listening, appreciate the honesty.

I would suggest reading other news sources not prepackaged tik tok vids in between the clips of midget wrestlers and how to put on your fake eyelashes.

I don't listen to and agree with any particular person. There are some decently unbiased sources like Geopolitical Futures and others where you can get straight information.

Others have less than official sources of information that has to be sorted through.

Again, no facts or references in the "Its got to be the Jews" rhetoric.

But none of what you guys have conjured up represents actual political fallout from Iran. You guys are posting your notes from MTP this morning.
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ReloadAg said:

why don't they just buy one from Pakistan? T



LOL.
Iran is Shia.
Pakistan is Sunni.

And Iran, same as any good muslim, operates with plenty of al-Taqiya.

LOL.
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I'll continue to distrust the people on record taking money from foreign lobbies. You should too.
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They will not stand to have facts posted.
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bobbranco said:

ReloadAg said:

why don't they just buy one from Pakistan? T



LOL.
Iran is Shia.
Pakistan is Sunni.



According to Mark Thiessen that doesn't matter and says Iran help plan 9/11 with Al-Quaeda
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Dan Scott said:

bobbranco said:

ReloadAg said:

why don't they just buy one from Pakistan? T



LOL.
Iran is Shia.
Pakistan is Sunni.



According to Mark Thiessen that doesn't matter and says Iran help plan 9/11 with Al-Quaeda


Shia would support Sunni killing Americans.

Both death cults.

Sunni have been somewhat tamed for now.
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Just lock this thread already.
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TRM said:

Just lock this thread already.


Yeah we should just have the war thread and all the propaganda over there.
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Dan Scott said:

bobbranco said:

ReloadAg said:

why don't they just buy one from Pakistan? T



LOL.
Iran is Shia.
Pakistan is Sunni.



According to Mark Thiessen that doesn't matter and says Iran help plan 9/11 with Al-Quaeda

To think Iran was not supporting ongoing terrorist activity prior to 09/11 would be utterly naive. Though direct material support and planning specific to the attacks may not have occurred, certainly Iran and their proxy support of terror groups would have been "supportive" and did help facilitate travel for terrorists.

Mark Thiessen is a speech writer and political commentator. He is not an intelligent asset or strategist.
 
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