FobTies said:

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Keyno said:

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This is a bizarre comment. Everything I said happened. Why are you calling me a liar?

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Accurate predictions on fallout and shifting narratives seem to be offensive.

I personally think its great that "Regime Change" has shifted from a liberation campaign, to negotiating a nuke deal with a new leader in the existing regime. I dont think there is anything wrong with acknowledging that shift, or anyone's prediction it would happen.

I genuinely think that path is the best we Americans can hope for, with least poltical fallout for Trump. Unfortunately, I think Iran realizes that too.

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Old McDonald said:

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Phatbob said:

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To be fair, it was a bunch of isolationists that were projecting onto Trump that pushed that idea during the campaign. I think most people knew from the beginning Trump was not that.

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samurai_science said:

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"Peace ticket" is fiction

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uh huh

Vote the pro-peace ticket. Vote Trump-Vance 🇺🇸 pic.twitter.com/N1TwMxivnF

— GOP (@GOP) November 4, 2024

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Keyno said:

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FobTies said:

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Keyno said:

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This is a bizarre comment. Everything I said happened. Why are you calling me a liar?

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Accurate predictions on fallout and shifting narratives seem to be offensive.

I personally think its great that "Regime Change" has shifted from a liberation campaign, to negotiating a nuke deal with a new leader in the existing regime. I dont think there is anything wrong with acknowledging that shift, or anyone's prediction it would happen.

I genuinely think that path is the best we Americans can hope for, with least poltical fallout for Trump. Unfortunately, I think Iran realizes that too.

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Yeah, that is very optimistic. I wish it were so. But Israel wants regime change. So that's what we are going to do

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Keyno said:

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FobTies said:

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Keyno said:

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This is a bizarre comment. Everything I said happened. Why are you calling me a liar?

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Accurate predictions on fallout and shifting narratives seem to be offensive.

I personally think its great that "Regime Change" has shifted from a liberation campaign, to negotiating a nuke deal with a new leader in the existing regime. I dont think there is anything wrong with acknowledging that shift, or anyone's prediction it would happen.

I genuinely think that path is the best we Americans can hope for, with least poltical fallout for Trump. Unfortunately, I think Iran realizes that too.

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Yeah, that is very optimistic. I wish it were so. But Israel wants regime change. So that's what we are going to do

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flown-the-coop said:

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Believe that some of the chatter on ground troops results from the below. My understanding of this is that this is sort of the advanced team for a larger deployment.

Trump also just mentioned that Iran has provided a "gift" to him today. Probably an airplane or golden toilet.

There are also reports that the negotiator for Iran has agreed their will drop all pursuits for a nuclear weapon in perpetuity.

Seems like Trump is absolutely losing this war just as we all predicted.

https://nypost.com/2026/03/24/us-news/pentagon-prepares-3000-troops-from-elite-82nd-airborne-for-deployment-as-iran-war-continues/

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Phatbob said:

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Anyone who paid attention to the actual details of what Trump was saying knew he was never isolationist based peace at all costs.

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bobbranco said:

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Keyno said:

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FobTies said:

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Keyno said:

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This is a bizarre comment. Everything I said happened. Why are you calling me a liar?

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Accurate predictions on fallout and shifting narratives seem to be offensive.

I personally think its great that "Regime Change" has shifted from a liberation campaign, to negotiating a nuke deal with a new leader in the existing regime. I dont think there is anything wrong with acknowledging that shift, or anyone's prediction it would happen.

I genuinely think that path is the best we Americans can hope for, with least poltical fallout for Trump. Unfortunately, I think Iran realizes that too.

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Yeah, that is very optimistic. I wish it were so. But Israel wants regime change. So that's what we are going to do

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Nice. One can only can surmise you want the the evil regime in place with nuclear weapons.

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On Tuesday, Fox News reported that the Commander of the 82nd Airborne Division, Maj. Gen. Brandon Tegtmeier, and his command element, along with members of his headquarters staff, have been ordered to deploy to the Middle East amid discussions about possible ground operations. Later in the day, The Wall Street Journal reported a written order was imminent.

Read more at: https://www.stripes.com/branches/army/2026-03-24/karag-82nd-airborne-marines-iran-21167074.html
Source - Stars and Stripes

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maverick2076 said:

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Keyno said:

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FobTies said:

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Keyno said:

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This is a bizarre comment. Everything I said happened. Why are you calling me a liar?

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Accurate predictions on fallout and shifting narratives seem to be offensive.

I personally think its great that "Regime Change" has shifted from a liberation campaign, to negotiating a nuke deal with a new leader in the existing regime. I dont think there is anything wrong with acknowledging that shift, or anyone's prediction it would happen.

I genuinely think that path is the best we Americans can hope for, with least poltical fallout for Trump. Unfortunately, I think Iran realizes that too.

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Yeah, that is very optimistic. I wish it were so. But Israel wants regime change. So that's what we are going to do

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I always find it interesting when people carry out conversations between their socks.

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flown-the-coop said:

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I have no idea if that is what's occurring or if Tucker and Candace just outed their accounts on f16.

If every bad guy in Iran had laid down their weapons on day 4 of the air strikes and Reza was brought in on a golden helicopter and paraded in the streets followed by 30 days of freedom and feasts in Tehran with Jews and former IRGC dining together, Trump would be blamed for ending things too soon, didn't do enough to bomb the country into oblivion, demand executions of IGRC leaders whilst also wanting to try BiBi on war crimes.

Their true colors keep shining through, and they ain't Red, White and Blue.

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🚨 In Amman (IDF intelligence), they note: Following air force attacks, there is low morale, desertions, and burnout among the soldiers of the ballistic missile units of the Revolutionary Guards. Unit activists are afraid and refuse to go to the launch sites due to the systematic… pic.twitter.com/L87pqSZOUy

— Raylan Givens (@JewishWarrior13) March 24, 2026

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Phatbob said:

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Anyone who paid attention to the actual details of what Trump was saying knew he was never isolationist based peace at all costs.

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this is just more backpedaling, retconning, and gaslighting. the cycle never ends:

1) trump throws out incoherent, contradictory messages
2) the sycophants cherry pick the ones that support the current party line, pretend the others don't exist
3) This Was Always the Plan and Everyone Knew it the Whole Time (TM)
4) party line changes, back to step 1

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Phatbob said:

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Old McDonald said:

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Phatbob said:

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Anyone who paid attention to the actual details of what Trump was saying knew he was never isolationist based peace at all costs.

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this is just more backpedaling, retconning, and gaslighting. the cycle never ends:

1) trump throws out incoherent, contradictory messages
2) the sycophants cherry pick the ones that support the current party line, pretend the others don't exist
3) This Was Always the Plan and Everyone Knew it the Whole Time (TM)
4) party line changes, back to step 1

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I've never said it wasn't, at best, playing both sides of the isolationism debate at the time. Still don't like Trump. Still doesn't affect that this is a stupid thing to argue over because

1) It doesn't matter what Trump does, you will hate, so this war is obviously wrong to you based on TDS
2) The merits of going to kinetic action in this case has 0 to do with what Trump ran or didn't run on
3) The performance of the current kinetic action has 0 to do with whether you or I or anyone like, love, or hate Trump, and you and half a dozen others here are already judging the outcome based on things that have yet to even happen simply because either Trump or Israel is involved.

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4stringAg said:

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Phatbob said:

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Old McDonald said:

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Phatbob said:

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Anyone who paid attention to the actual details of what Trump was saying knew he was never isolationist based peace at all costs.

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this is just more backpedaling, retconning, and gaslighting. the cycle never ends:

1) trump throws out incoherent, contradictory messages
2) the sycophants cherry pick the ones that support the current party line, pretend the others don't exist
3) This Was Always the Plan and Everyone Knew it the Whole Time (TM)
4) party line changes, back to step 1

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I've never said it wasn't, at best, playing both sides of the isolationism debate at the time. Still don't like Trump. Still doesn't affect that this is a stupid thing to argue over because

1) It doesn't matter what Trump does, you will hate, so this war is obviously wrong to you based on TDS
2) The merits of going to kinetic action in this case has 0 to do with what Trump ran or didn't run on
3) The performance of the current kinetic action has 0 to do with whether you or I or anyone like, love, or hate Trump, and you and half a dozen others here are already judging the outcome based on things that have yet to even happen simply because either Trump or Israel is involved.

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4) Nothing in Trump's history as CIC suggest he's in this for the long haul. We're a little over 3 weeks in. Comparisons to Iraq and Afghanistan are ridiculous arguments at this stage and reflect TDS.

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bobbranco said:

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One can only can surmise you want the the evil regime in place with nuclear weapons.

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BMX Bandit said:

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If you don't understand how preventing the foremost sponsor of Islamic terrorism in the world from getting nuclear weapons or conventional weapons that can reach us is in the best interest of the United States, then there isn't anything anyone can ever say to convince you this is good for America.

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hph6203 said:

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Current messaging is the same as previous messaging.

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Trump on Iran:

We have really regime changed; this is a change in the regime because the leaders are all very different than the ones we started off with. pic.twitter.com/xS4Qkqm597

— Clash Report (@clashreport) March 24, 2026

FobTies said:

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bobbranco said:

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One can only can surmise you want the the evil regime in place with nuclear weapons.

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BMX Bandit said:

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If you don't understand how preventing the foremost sponsor of Islamic terrorism in the world from getting nuclear weapons or conventional weapons that can reach us is in the best interest of the United States, then there isn't anything anyone can ever say to convince you this is good for America.

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If one truly believes any action Trump takes against Iran, or to help Israel, is to prevent a Nuclear Holocaust, then literally anything he does is justified and should not be challenged. If anyone opposes Trump under that framing, they can be perceived as wanting a Nuclear Holocaust. Then, anyone who is for "Nuke Holocaust" can be thrown out, along with any legit arguements they may have.

Like with "Climate Change" this "existential threat" can be used to batter any disagreement, in perpetuity. You can be on the winning side of any argument, if its about not wanting to die. That dynamic is why we see this tactic used so much.

*For the record this Iran war will be the 4th time Trump has saved us from a "Nuke Holocaust":

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NEW - Leader of the IRGC has "one message" for American soldiers: "Come closer." pic.twitter.com/gRgyG9FT9B

— Disclose.tv (@disclosetv) March 24, 2026

Keyno said:

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Is there any real deterrence from Israel using a nuke?

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Keyno said:

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NEW - Leader of the IRGC has "one message" for American soldiers: "Come closer." pic.twitter.com/gRgyG9FT9B

— Disclose.tv (@disclosetv) March 24, 2026

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Keyno said:

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NEW - Leader of the IRGC has "one message" for American soldiers: "Come closer." pic.twitter.com/gRgyG9FT9B

— Disclose.tv (@disclosetv) March 24, 2026

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aggiehawg said:

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Keyno said:

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NEW - Leader of the IRGC has "one message" for American soldiers: "Come closer." pic.twitter.com/gRgyG9FT9B

— Disclose.tv (@disclosetv) March 24, 2026

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Response? "Just look up. We are right there."

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.@SecWar: "Never has a modern military, been so rapidly and historically obliterated, defeated, from day one, with overwhelming firepower... that’s why we see ourselves as part of this negotiation as well. We negotiate with bombs. You have a choice, as we loiter over the top of… pic.twitter.com/hCP7hpDmqh

— Rapid Response 47 (@RapidResponse47) March 24, 2026

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We negotiate with bombs. You have a choice, as we loiter over the top of Tehran... about your future."

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Keyno said:

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NEW - Leader of the IRGC has "one message" for American soldiers: "Come closer." pic.twitter.com/gRgyG9FT9B

— Disclose.tv (@disclosetv) March 24, 2026

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Keyno said:

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aggiehawg said:

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Keyno said:

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NEW - Leader of the IRGC has "one message" for American soldiers: "Come closer." pic.twitter.com/gRgyG9FT9B

— Disclose.tv (@disclosetv) March 24, 2026

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Response? "Just look up. We are right there."

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It's fun to be coy and playful, but a ground invasion is not that. Its deadly and brutal and many of your country men will die. Iran is not Iraq or Afghanistan. Much bigger and brutal terrain. Much bigger and well trained army. Iranians have a higher average IQ. And they have been preparing to get invaded for like 3 decades.

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bobbranco said:

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Keyno said:

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aggiehawg said:

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Keyno said:

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NEW - Leader of the IRGC has "one message" for American soldiers: "Come closer." pic.twitter.com/gRgyG9FT9B

— Disclose.tv (@disclosetv) March 24, 2026

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Response? "Just look up. We are right there."

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It's fun to be coy and playful, but a ground invasion is not that. Its deadly and brutal and many of your country men will die. Iran is not Iraq or Afghanistan. Much bigger and brutal terrain. Much bigger and well trained army. Iranians have a higher average IQ. And they have been preparing to get invaded for like 3 decades.

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You misread a simple sentence.

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