BlackGold said:Phatbob said:
Israel was not the only source is the point. We didn't go to war because Israel told us to. That's just dumb.
Giving the order of going to war and providing fake bs intelligence are two separate things, but you can see how one would impact the other.
Phatbob said:BlackGold said:Phatbob said:
Israel was not the only source is the point. We didn't go to war because Israel told us to. That's just dumb.
Giving the order of going to war and providing fake bs intelligence are two separate things, but you can see how one would impact the other.
So your assertion is they made it all up? And the other sources did too? It was all a conspiracy, then?
BlackGold said:Phatbob said:BlackGold said:Phatbob said:
Israel was not the only source is the point. We didn't go to war because Israel told us to. That's just dumb.
Giving the order of going to war and providing fake bs intelligence are two separate things, but you can see how one would impact the other.
So your assertion is they made it all up? And the other sources did too? It was all a conspiracy, then?
My assertion and something we should all understand now, is that there were NO WMDS IN IRAQ. I'm also saying that Israel and its representatives came before the US Congress (see the video) and stated with 100% certainty, there were WMDs in Iraq. The whole pretense for us invading Iraq was that were WMDs and that was very clearly a LIE. What do you conclude from that? Just bad intel? No, it was more seditious than that.
Phatbob said:
Israel was not the only source is the point. We didn't go to war because Israel told us to. That's just dumb.
TRM said:
Y'all are derailing this thread
Keyno said:
I'll get us back on track in regards to the thread topic by stating my view.
The political ramifications for this conflict depend on the outcome. Israel's goal is to topple the regime, because they have a policy of taking out all their regional enemies as outlined in the Oded Yinon Plan and the Clean Break Report.
Politically, if this happens, then Israel will become a defacto worldwide superpower. They would control regional oil shipping lanes, trade routes, have military superiority over the region, and have a huge stockpile of nukes (while no one else in the region has them). America will have effectively created a rival superpower.
It is problematic for America, politically, because our government is littered with men and women of questionable loyalty (Ted Cruz- "If you will not stand with Israel, I will not stand with you" comes to mind).
Politically, this war is going to wreck the GOP in the midterms. Nobody wanted or voted for this and the Strait of Hormuz is going to remain closed- so everyday Americans are going to be eating the costs of that.
Keyno said:
I'll get us back on track in regards to the thread topic by stating my view.
The political ramifications for this conflict depend on the outcome. Israel's goal is to topple the regime, because they have a policy of taking out all their regional enemies as outlined in the Oded Yinon Plan and the Clean Break Report.
Politically, if this happens, then Israel will become a defacto worldwide superpower. They would control regional oil shipping lanes, trade routes, have military superiority over the region, and have a huge stockpile of nukes (while no one else in the region has them). America will have effectively created a rival superpower.
It is problematic for America, politically, because our government is littered with men and women of questionable loyalty (Ted Cruz- "If you will not stand with Israel, I will not stand with you" comes to mind).
Politically, this war is going to wreck the GOP in the midterms. Nobody wanted or voted for this and the Strait of Hormuz is going to remain closed- so everyday Americans are going to be eating the costs of that.
Phatbob said:Keyno said:
I'll get us back on track in regards to the thread topic by stating my view.
The political ramifications for this conflict depend on the outcome. Israel's goal is to topple the regime, because they have a policy of taking out all their regional enemies as outlined in the Oded Yinon Plan and the Clean Break Report.
Politically, if this happens, then Israel will become a defacto worldwide superpower. They would control regional oil shipping lanes, trade routes, have military superiority over the region, and have a huge stockpile of nukes (while no one else in the region has them). America will have effectively created a rival superpower.
It is problematic for America, politically, because our government is littered with men and women of questionable loyalty (Ted Cruz- "If you will not stand with Israel, I will not stand with you" comes to mind).
Politically, this war is going to wreck the GOP in the midterms. Nobody wanted or voted for this and the Strait of Hormuz is going to remain closed- so everyday Americans are going to be eating the costs of that.
You think this is "getting back on track"? This is one of the most outlandish posts I've seen in a while
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Reports from Oman claim the Islamic Republic's elite families are relocating there as the crisis deepens.
A message circulating from an Iranian in Muscat, Oman, alleges that the families of senior regime figures including Ali Larijani, Abbas Araghchi, and Gholam-Hossein Mohseni-Ejei are currently staying in two major hotels in the city.
The message also claims that others who managed to leave Iran through the Van border crossing into Turkey have been moved into safe houses connected to the Iranian embassy in Muscat.
According to the account, shopping centers in Muscat are now filled with chador-wearing women and men with clerical appearances, believed to be families connected to regime officials.
It further alleges that the family of police commander Ahmad Reza Radan also arrived in Oman via Turkey.
The message also claims that figures involved in financial networks linked to the regime, including the Shamkhani family, have long maintained offices in Oman, allegedly overseen by Naji Shamkhani, a cousin of Ali Shamkhani.
🚨 Reports from Oman claim the Islamic Republic’s elite families are relocating there as the crisis deepens.
— The Iran Watcher 🇮🇷 (@TheIranWatcher) March 15, 2026
A message circulating from an Iranian in Muscat, Oman, alleges that the families of senior regime figures including Ali Larijani, Abbas Araghchi, and Gholam-Hossein… https://t.co/l4qU1oWRo5 pic.twitter.com/sJb0cO6VDw
Instead of fighting over a 21-mile-wide bottleneck forever, we cut a new channel through friendly territory. A dozen thermonuclear detonations and you’ve got a waterway wider than the Panama Canal, deeper than the Suez, and safe from Iranian attacks. https://t.co/Et21kHCiAw
— Newt Gingrich (@newtgingrich) March 15, 2026
ChrisTAMU said:Keyno said:
I'll get us back on track in regards to the thread topic by stating my view.
The political ramifications for this conflict depend on the outcome. Israel's goal is to topple the regime, because they have a policy of taking out all their regional enemies as outlined in the Oded Yinon Plan and the Clean Break Report.
Politically, if this happens, then Israel will become a defacto worldwide superpower. They would control regional oil shipping lanes, trade routes, have military superiority over the region, and have a huge stockpile of nukes (while no one else in the region has them). America will have effectively created a rival superpower.
It is problematic for America, politically, because our government is littered with men and women of questionable loyalty (Ted Cruz- "If you will not stand with Israel, I will not stand with you" comes to mind).
Politically, this war is going to wreck the GOP in the midterms. Nobody wanted or voted for this and the Strait of Hormuz is going to remain closed- so everyday Americans are going to be eating the costs of that.
How do you know the strait will remain closed?
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Looking at the current state of affairs, the US cannot reopen the Strait. Obviously things can change in war. It would probably require troops and a sustained naval presence. Which would be constantly attacked by missiles. Trump recently sent out a "truth" (which was reposted to twitter because nobody reads truth social) calling for more countries to come help him secure the Strait. Which conveys that currently he has no idea how to reopen it.
aggiehawg said:Quote:
Looking at the current state of affairs, the US cannot reopen the Strait. Obviously things can change in war. It would probably require troops and a sustained naval presence. Which would be constantly attacked by missiles. Trump recently sent out a "truth" (which was reposted to twitter because nobody reads truth social) calling for more countries to come help him secure the Strait. Which conveys that currently he has no idea how to reopen it.
You obviously have not been watching closely, nor watching the streams I post that explain what is really happening. LOL.
Keyno said:ChrisTAMU said:Keyno said:
I'll get us back on track in regards to the thread topic by stating my view.
The political ramifications for this conflict depend on the outcome. Israel's goal is to topple the regime, because they have a policy of taking out all their regional enemies as outlined in the Oded Yinon Plan and the Clean Break Report.
Politically, if this happens, then Israel will become a defacto worldwide superpower. They would control regional oil shipping lanes, trade routes, have military superiority over the region, and have a huge stockpile of nukes (while no one else in the region has them). America will have effectively created a rival superpower.
It is problematic for America, politically, because our government is littered with men and women of questionable loyalty (Ted Cruz- "If you will not stand with Israel, I will not stand with you" comes to mind).
Politically, this war is going to wreck the GOP in the midterms. Nobody wanted or voted for this and the Strait of Hormuz is going to remain closed- so everyday Americans are going to be eating the costs of that.
How do you know the strait will remain closed?
Looking at the current state of affairs, the US cannot reopen the Strait. Obviously things can change in war. It would probably require troops and a sustained naval presence. Which would be constantly attacked by missiles. Trump recently sent out a "truth" (which was reposted to twitter because nobody reads truth social) calling for more countries to come help him secure the Strait. Which conveys that currently he has no idea how to reopen it.
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Link them- I'd be happy to watch them and discuss (but not if they are hours long, I do not have time for that)
If you'd like to make your own point with your own words, that may be better
Trump warns NATO countries of a “very bad future” if they don’t join US in its naval effort to reopen Hormuz -FT
— OSINTtechnical (@Osinttechnical) March 15, 2026
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One thing the Iran War has demonstrated is that the overwhelming majority of journalists and commentators on the war are blindingly ignorant of the basics of military operations, they are unacquainted with the staff process, and they are so eaten alive by the all-devouring TDS virus that they have lost the ability to reason when Trump is involved.
Keyno said:ChrisTAMU said:Keyno said:
I'll get us back on track in regards to the thread topic by stating my view.
The political ramifications for this conflict depend on the outcome. Israel's goal is to topple the regime, because they have a policy of taking out all their regional enemies as outlined in the Oded Yinon Plan and the Clean Break Report.
Politically, if this happens, then Israel will become a defacto worldwide superpower. They would control regional oil shipping lanes, trade routes, have military superiority over the region, and have a huge stockpile of nukes (while no one else in the region has them). America will have effectively created a rival superpower.
It is problematic for America, politically, because our government is littered with men and women of questionable loyalty (Ted Cruz- "If you will not stand with Israel, I will not stand with you" comes to mind).
Politically, this war is going to wreck the GOP in the midterms. Nobody wanted or voted for this and the Strait of Hormuz is going to remain closed- so everyday Americans are going to be eating the costs of that.
How do you know the strait will remain closed?
Looking at the current state of affairs, the US cannot reopen the Strait. Obviously things can change in war. It would probably require troops and a sustained naval presence. Which would be constantly attacked by missiles. Trump recently sent out a "truth" (which was reposted to twitter because nobody reads truth social) calling for more countries to come help him secure the Strait. Which conveys that currently he has no idea how to reopen it.
Dan Scott said:
https://truthsocial.com/@realDonaldTrump/116235861005528220
Iran has long been known as a Master of Media Manipulation and Public Relations. They are Militarily ineffective and weak, but are really good at "feeding" the very appreciative Fake News Media false information. Now, A.I. has become another Disinformation weapon that Iran uses, quite well, considering they are being annihilated by the day. They showed phony "Kamikaze Boats," shooting at various Ships at Sea, which looks wonderful, powerful, and vicious, but these Boats don't exist It's all false information to show how "tough" their already defeated Military is! The five U.S. Refueling Planes that were supposedly struck down and badly damaged, according to The Wall Street Journal's false reporting, and others, are all in service, with the exception of one, which will soon be flying the skies. Buildings and Ships that are shown to be on fire are not It's FAKE NEWS, generated by A.I. For instance, Iran, working in close coordination with the Fake News Media, shows our great USS Abraham Lincoln Aircraft Carrier, one of the largest and most prestigious Ships in the World, burning uncontrollably in the Ocean. Not only was it not burning, it was not even shot at Iran knows better than to do that! The story was knowingly FAKE and, in a certain way, you can say that those Media Outlets that generated it should be brought up on Charges for TREASON for the dissemination of false information! The fact is, Iran is being decimated, and the only battles they "win" are those that they create through AI, and are distributed by Corrupt Media Outlets. The Radical Leftwing Press knows this full well, but continues to go forward with false stories and LIES. That's why their Approval Rating is so low, and I can win a Presidential Election, IN A LANDSLIDE, getting only 5% positive Press They have no credibility! I am so thrilled to see Brendan Carr, the Chairman of the Federal Communications Commission (FCC), looking at the licenses of some of these Corrupt and Highly Unpatriotic "News" Organizations. They get Billions of Dollars of FREE American Airwaves, and use it to perpetuate LIES, both in News and almost all of their Shows, including the Late Night Morons, who get gigantic Salaries for horrible Ratings, and never get, as I used to say in The Apprentice, "FIRED." Thank you for your attention to this matter! President DONALD J. TRUMP
Smoking gun: A Hamas secret letter to Iran’s new Supreme Leader, Mojtaba Khamenei, urges him to escalate the war across the Middle East in Lebanon, Iraq, Yemen and every front possible.
— Israel Foreign Ministry (@IsraelMFA) March 15, 2026
The letter mocks Gulf states as “weak.”
Proof the Palestinians betray their Arab brothers. pic.twitter.com/P2thCwKH1q
