Writers Guild strike 2023

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Whos Juan
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LMCane said:

I have never asked any employer for a raise over 27 years.

They would either automatically give me one every year

and every few years I would go find another higher paying job.

why can't Hollywood employees do the same thing?

is every employee of McDonald's entitled to a raise when McDonalds stock goes up?

and if not, why not?
I mean, great for you, Like someone else already said, you left money on the table.

To answer your questions:

Hollywood employees don't have infinite "employers" to shop themselves around. Sure, there is a ton of content being produced, but it funnels to a handful of major studios.

It's also project based. They're not receiving a salary. There's no assurance they've got a paycheck lined up as soon as their done working on whatever show or film they're writing. Like several have already pointed out, they made that decision and a lot, if not most, have supplemental sources of income while they work towards their dream.

As for the McDonald's question, no. Employees are not entitled to a raise if stock goes up. Employees should absolutely ask for a raise if their franchise is doing well largely due to their performance, however.

Additionally, if that same McDonald's is doing well and wants to replace their employees with kiosks, the employees should absolutely fight like hell to keep their job. Same goes for automation in manufacturing, changes in the energy sector, and any other example you can think of.



aTmAg
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Let's strike because our employer is replacing us over priced employees with automation that doesn't complain and doesn't strike. Let's prove their point for them!

Genius.
Whos Juan
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aTmAg said:

Let's strike because our employer is replacing us over priced employees with automation that doesn't complain and doesn't strike. Let's prove their point for them!

Genius.
How would you feel about your job getting outsourced? Are you overpriced?
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LMCane said:

I have never asked any employer for a raise over 27 years.

They would either automatically give me one every year

and every few years I would go find another higher paying job.

why can't Hollywood employees do the same thing?

is every employee of McDonald's entitled to a raise when McDonalds stock goes up?

and if not, why not?

cause stock going up doesn't make the required skill of flipping burgers and taking orders any more difficult than it was when the stock was low….

When the stock drops does everyone get an immediate pay cut?
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Whos Juan said:

aTmAg said:

Let's strike because our employer is replacing us over priced employees with automation that doesn't complain and doesn't strike. Let's prove their point for them!

Genius.
How would you feel about your job getting outsourced? Are you overpriced?
I make sure I'm more valuable to my employer than anybody they would outsource to. Just like I made sure I could do more than flip burgers when I was in HS. That's what responsible people do

The LAST thing I would do is strike. That would make my value LESS and make outsourcing my ass even more necessary for my employer.
Whos Juan
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aTmAg said:

Whos Juan said:

aTmAg said:

Let's strike because our employer is replacing us over priced employees with automation that doesn't complain and doesn't strike. Let's prove their point for them!

Genius.
How would you feel about your job getting outsourced? Are you overpriced?
I make sure I'm more valuable to my employer than anybody they would outsource to. Just like I made sure I could do more than flip burgers when I was in HS. That's what responsible people do
Hold up. Are you saying anyone working at a job in food service, manufacturing, or anything else that is at threat of replacement is irresponsible?

Gotta love that confidence, but everyone is replaceable. Even you.
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Whos Juan said:

aTmAg said:

Whos Juan said:

aTmAg said:

Let's strike because our employer is replacing us over priced employees with automation that doesn't complain and doesn't strike. Let's prove their point for them!

Genius.
How would you feel about your job getting outsourced? Are you overpriced?
I make sure I'm more valuable to my employer than anybody they would outsource to. Just like I made sure I could do more than flip burgers when I was in HS. That's what responsible people do
Hold up. Are you saying anyone working at a job in food service, manufacturing, or anything else that is at threat of replacement is irresponsible?

Gotta love that confidence, but everyone is replaceable. Even you.
Everybody should work to gain more marketable skills so they can migrate to higher paying jobs until they are satisfied with their income. Burger flipper jobs should be staffed by high school students or other single individuals who can live with their parents (or share a cheap ass apartment) and not pay to house and feed a family of 5. By the time you have a family of 5, you should have already moved on to more valuable and higher paying jobs. The last thing somebody should do is have 3 kids on a McDonald's wage.
Brian Earl Spilner
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aTmAg said:

Brian Earl Spilner said:

So which is it, are they not making enough because they're liberals who made their own bed and now must lie in it, or are they overpaid?
Is this really such a complex concept for this board?

They are overpaid as evident that they have selfishly extorted their employers for more money than the free market would dictate AND they made their bed by voting the COST OF LIVING so be so ridiculously high.

Do you guys not realize that the cost of living and wage are two separate things?

If you vote the cost of living to be $1M/yr doesn't mean you should be able to or even could extort $1.1M from your employer. It's not like they could raise ticket prices to $1000.. They would go out of business.


Your argument is that a strike is automatic evidence that workers are overpaid?

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Brian Earl Spilner said:

aTmAg said:

Brian Earl Spilner said:

So which is it, are they not making enough because they're liberals who made their own bed and now must lie in it, or are they overpaid?
Is this really such a complex concept for this board?

They are overpaid as evident that they have selfishly extorted their employers for more money than the free market would dictate AND they made their bed by voting the COST OF LIVING so be so ridiculously high.

Do you guys not realize that the cost of living and wage are two separate things?

If you vote the cost of living to be $1M/yr doesn't mean you should be able to or even could extort $1.1M from your employer. It's not like they could raise ticket prices to $1000.. They would go out of business.


Your argument is that a strike is automatic evidence that workers are overpaid?


Unions exist as a way to artificially push salaries higher than they would otherwise be. Is this new to you?
Brian Earl Spilner
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That's not at all the same point you just made. You said the strike itself is evidence that they're overpaid.
aTmAg
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Brian Earl Spilner said:

That's not at all the same point you just made. You said the strike itself is evidence that they're overpaid.
Where did I say the word strike?
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Whos Juan said:

aTmAg said:

Let's strike because our employer is replacing us over priced employees with automation that doesn't complain and doesn't strike. Let's prove their point for them!

Genius.
How would you feel about your job getting outsourced? Are you overpriced?
I view it more as allowing your employer to clone you and then use your clones for the work you were doing.
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BassCowboy33 said:

Whos Juan said:

aTmAg said:

Let's strike because our employer is replacing us over priced employees with automation that doesn't complain and doesn't strike. Let's prove their point for them!

Genius.
How would you feel about your job getting outsourced? Are you overpriced?
I view it more as allowing your employer to clone you and then use your clones for the work you were doing.
If they can do that, then you are worth much less. You should probably find a new line of work. It's up to us to find something of value to contribute, not for others to pay us as if we had more to contribute than we really did.
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aTmAg said:

BassCowboy33 said:

Whos Juan said:

aTmAg said:

Let's strike because our employer is replacing us over priced employees with automation that doesn't complain and doesn't strike. Let's prove their point for them!

Genius.
How would you feel about your job getting outsourced? Are you overpriced?
I view it more as allowing your employer to clone you and then use your clones for the work you were doing.
If they can do that, then you are worth much less. You should probably find a new line of work. It's up to us to find something of value to contribute, not for others to pay us as if we had more to contribute than we really did.
Skynet, is that you?
nai06
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Somebody on this thread hasn't realized they are 100% replaceable by their employer.
aTmAg
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nai06 said:

Somebody on this thread hasn't realized they are 100% replaceable by their employer.
Not for higher value/cost. Otherwise they would have already.
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tysker
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UPS and the teamsters have reached a tentative deal. Seems the low-skilled bus drivers didn't want to strike
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TCTTS
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Gotta love the posters who pop in to let us know how much they don't care, quote wildly inaccurate numbers, express disgust at their wildly inaccurate numbers, probably argue for a bit, and then leave.
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double aught
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It is kinda odd when people come to the entertainment board to let everyone know how little they care for entertainment. Sort of like those people who need everyone to know they don't watch the NFL anymore.
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howitzercannon said:

I mean the quote was in the title post. Assuming you are referencing the $400k number?

Gotta love those who apparently can't work as a writer so they post on the internet all day?




Nice try, but I'm a producer. With a studio deal and projects set up all over town.
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double aught said:

It is kinda odd when people come to the entertainment board to let everyone know how little they care for entertainment. Sort of like those people who need everyone to know they don't watch the NFL anymore.


It truly blows my mind. I simply cannot imagine showing up on a board in which I clearly despised its subject matter, or at least the people who made its subject matter, and started taking digs. Talk about wasting time on the internet.
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AustinAg2K
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howitzercannon said:


As a producer myself, I don't have too much time and just saw that there was a strike going on and caught up trying to understand how this will affect me and the concern it looks like people are having with it.


So, as. Hollywood producer, this is the first you've heard about the strike?
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double aught said:

Sort of like those people who need everyone to know they don't watch the NFL anymore.


We need a WNBA board so I can tell everyone how much it sucks.
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AustinAg2K said:

double aught said:

Sort of like those people who need everyone to know they don't watch the NFL anymore.


We need a WNBA board so I can tell everyone how much it sucks.
That I understand.
canadiaggie
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I'm a producer too.


See: the enormous dookie I just produced in the toilet, much to my wife's dismay.
BenTheGoodAg
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canadiaggie said:

I'm a producer too.


See: the enormous dookie I just produced in the toilet, much to my wife's dismay.
Ah, I see you were on The Last Jedi?
 
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