Not trying to be argumentative, just asking genuine questions. I've read the last couple pages of this thread but honestly don't know much at all about the positions of either side in the strike/negotiations.
SAG-AFTRA Strike Imminent as Talks Conclude With No Deal https://t.co/14Xof5WOW2
— Variety (@Variety) July 13, 2023
SAG-AFTRA’s Negotiating Committee Unanimously Recommends Strike as Contract Deadline Passes Without a Deal https://t.co/uV8DJSEvy5
— The Hollywood Reporter (@THR) July 13, 2023
Some studios have already completed press on a small amount of upcoming movies & TV shows. Any interviews from Friday morning onwards will have been completed before the strike.
— DiscussingFilm (@DiscussingFilm) July 13, 2023
Picketing begins tomorrow morning.
I don't think the AMPTP realizes the sheer amount of actors in this town who don't work during the day. There literally will not be room for us. Every studio gate is going to look like Wal-Mart on black Friday but with more spray tans.
— Luke Barnett 👨🏻🍼 (@LukeBarnett) July 13, 2023
TCTTS said:
These people are f/cking ghouls…Quote:
"The endgame is to allow things to drag on until union members start losing their apartments and losing their houses," a studio executive told Deadline. Acknowledging the cold-as-ice approach, several other sources reiterated the statement. One insider called it "a cruel but necessary evil."
LMCane said:TCTTS said:
These people are f/cking ghouls…Quote:
"The endgame is to allow things to drag on until union members start losing their apartments and losing their houses," a studio executive told Deadline. Acknowledging the cold-as-ice approach, several other sources reiterated the statement. One insider called it "a cruel but necessary evil."
LMAO
so the writers vote to go on strike and then are shocked and horrified they won't get paid and have to suffer consequences?!?!
tell me someone doesn't understand capitalism without telling me they don't understand capitalism.
Which writer said that they should be paid by a studio while on strike?LMCane said:TCTTS said:
These people are f/cking ghouls…Quote:
"The endgame is to allow things to drag on until union members start losing their apartments and losing their houses," a studio executive told Deadline. Acknowledging the cold-as-ice approach, several other sources reiterated the statement. One insider called it "a cruel but necessary evil."
LMAO
so the writers vote to go on strike and then are shocked and horrified they won't get paid and have to suffer consequences?!?!
tell me someone doesn't understand capitalism without telling me they don't understand capitalism.
mavsfan4ever said:
Can someone give a quick/shirt summary of what the actors are asking for? I'm assuming more money, but why do they think they are entitled to more money if the market doesn't dictate paying them more? I read the tweet or lost saying that big tech has made the writing rooms smaller, etc but why should they have to keep writing rooms at a certain size if they can put out good content with fewer writers?
Not trying to be argumentative, just asking genuine questions. I've read the last couple pages of this thread but honestly don't know much at all about the positions of either side in the strike/negotiations.
The studio’s A.I. proposal to SAG-AFTRA included scanning a background actor’s likeness for one day’s worth of pay and using their likeness forever in any form without any pay or consent. pic.twitter.com/WrHzdn8Nxj
— DiscussingFilm (@DiscussingFilm) July 13, 2023
double aught said:
Maybe a better analogy would be: You hire the guy for a day to upload all his web building skills. Then you build the site yourself with the skills you paid for and uploaded. And now you potentially have no need for the guy in the future if you ever want to build any other sites or modify the one you have.
C@LAg said:an individual actor is fully entitled and permitted to sell their likeness away if they so desire to.TXAGBQ76 said:
Maybe, but if that is what you paid for and he agreed to do the job?
What about the other questions? I'm truly trying to understand.
this specific point is to prevent that being the de facto standard.
e.g extreme example. a young ronald reagan today would have his likeness captured and owned by the studio (under the terms they want)
in 20 years, when he theoretically runs for president, Big Hollywood could make an all CGI movie having his likeness be in a homosexual relationship, doing drugs, beating a woman etc. Something he would not have approved of at the time.
TXAGBQ76 said:
I see where you are coming from, but what's to keep the studios from going outside the industry and developing their own digital "actors" and moving forward? From a business perspective, the ROI could be attractive if all the studios care about are profits.
It does. But CG effects have been around for decades. Despite that, practical effects (or at least a combination of the two) still look better. I would think the same will be true for real actors vs digital ones for a long time.TXAGBQ76 said:
Today that can certainly be true, but technology moves fast